Virginia polls 10/26/12- WashPost Obama +4 ..Gravis (yes Gravis) TIED

[underpants]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/va/virginia_romney_vs_obama-1774.html

The main electoral map though has PA and Michigan in the grey.

[TroyD]

1. Yes, I posted the Gravis poll yesterday : )

The Gravis poll for VA came out in the afternoon and the fact that it only showed a Tie for Romney foreshadowed the even better Washington Post VA poll for Obama that came out in the evening.

[underpants]

2. The best Gravis could do was Allen +2

[TroyD]

3. Which probably doesn't make sense

Since it's unlikely that Obama would be polling above Kaine.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Gravis Pulls Down The RCP Average, The Other Aggregators Not So Much

RCP excludes partisan polls. The other aggregators don't. The ironic thing is RCP doesn't consider We Ask America, Gravis, and Rasmussen as partisan pollsters.

The other ironic thing is those pollsters I cited are all robocallers who exclude cellphones. When you exclude thirty percent of the population if you have to weight the hell out of your surveys. It's hard enough to make inferences from small samples. These robocallers have to make inferences from microscopically small samples. Even PPP (D) as a robocaller has the same problem.

[underpants]

5. RCP fully includes Gravis

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. What?

RCP excludes partisan polls. The other aggregators don't. The ironic thing is RCP doesn't consider We Ask America, Gravis, and Rasmussen as partisan pollsters.

[underpants]

7. Okay

it looked like it did to me. Kaine and Allen have polls with Tim up 4,2, 5 but then there is a Gravis with Allen up 7 and the average, at one point, was Allen +2.2

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. I'm Getting More Confused

1) I'm confused. RCP excludes partisan pollsters in most instances.
2) RCP includes Gravis, Rasmussen, and We Ask America because they don't consider them partisan pollsters.
3) Other aggregating sites include pollsters that RCP exclude and show a different picture of the race.