Ohio governor claims Romney will win Ohio

[helpisontheway]

I'm so sick of this crap! Guess he means they have found a way for him to steal Ohio! Hope they lose Ohio and Virginia!

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Ohio's Republican governor said Sunday that private polls show Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney beating President Barack Obama in the all-important battleground state of Ohio just as auto industry politics assume a dominant role in the closing days of the campaign.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) predicted outright that Romney would win Ohio on "Meet the Press" and, with it, the presidential election — a overall contest which Kasich said wouldn't be that close.

"Right now, I believe we're currently ahead. Internals show us currently ahead," he said, referring to the private polling candidates routinely conduct. "Honestly, I believe that Romney is going to carry Ohio."
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http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/28/14757523-ohio-gov-predicts-romney-win-as-auto-politics-dominate?lite

[helpisontheway]

1. How can he get away with this crap when every single poll except for one shows Obama lead! nt

[geek tragedy]

2. He's entitled to his opinion. nt

[ProSense]

3. He can say whatever he wants to

"Right now, I believe we're currently ahead. Internals show us currently ahead"

He can also ignore that early voting shows that Mitt is getting his ass kicked.

[rightsideout]

4. The key phrase there is "internals show us currently ahead"

Translated, that means, in their own fantasy world they are ahead.

[abumbyanyothername]

13. Their internals most definitely do not show them ahead.

He's lying.

[Maximumnegro]

40. He means day of Election voters. He's parsing.

He obviously not referring to early voting. He means those voting on election day.

[mzteaze]

53. Yes indeed...

...our "internals..." are unskewedpolls.com. In fakery we trust.

[lunamagica]

5. This is worrisome.This guy has been talking all this time like they were losing, saying that Myth

could win without Ohio, etc.

And now, all of a sudden, he says they are winning?

Not good, not good

[bornskeptic]

24. Apparently you don't understand Republicanspeak.

If Kasich gave the impression he thought his party was losing, that means he liked their chances. When he declares that Romney is going to win, that means he thinks Romney is burnt toast.

[lunamagica]

36. Yeah, I need to brush up on Republicanspeak

I hope you are right.

I have no doubt that the President is winning Ohio

My fear is that his "newly found confidence" is due that they are ready to steal Ohio

[franklin200]

6. They said the same things in 08

In 2008 Charlie Crist claimed that internal polls had McCain ahead in Florida too. Don't fall for the hype

link:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7653600|

[marezdotes]

7. Saying it doesn't make it true.

You can't believe a word that comes out of any Thugs mouth.

[justiceischeap]

8. And Chuck Todd just showed on MTP a very likely electoral map

that has President Obama winning without Ohio, Florida, Iowa... And the count would 270 to 268.

[octoberlib]

18. MTP had Ohio as a toss up. Nate Silver said it's not a toss up.

It's definitely leaning Obama. The msm have gotta keep that horserace alive.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

27. That's a "likely" electoral map?

Is it really looking THAT bad right now?

[justiceischeap]

30. No but I did like looking at a map that didn't contain Ohio

what if, for shits and giggles, there really was something to the Tagg has voting machines story? Insurance feels good in situations like this.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

39. Well, yeah

President Obama has- and has always had- several more paths to 270 than Romney, who would need an almost total sweep of all of the battleground states to win.

[chadnky]

9. What else can they say at this point?

Obama is ahead in almost all of the Ohio polling that I have seen. The best they have been able to do is get a few tie results, and one of those was a Rasmussen poll. You would have to believe that almost all of the public polling is wrong, and that they have some super secret polls that are showing something different. With that said, they really have to prop up hope that he can win there. If they concede that Romney probably isn't going to win Ohio, then they are pretty much saying that it is over. They know they are in trouble.

[abumbyanyothername]

16. The internals are likely showing a gap of more than 5%

with the President over 50%.

[octoberlib]

10. Lying is second nature to most republicans

I also think it's a Rove campaign strategy. Act like Romney is winning , no matter what the facts state.

[grantcart]

11. Obama is way up in early voting

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-28/president-obama-leads-romney-in-early-voting-axelrod-says

Early voting is giving President Barack Obama a lead over Republican challenger Mitt Romney in battleground states such as Iowa, Obama campaign senior political strategist David Axelrod said.

“The main thing is not to look at the polling but to look at the voting,” Axelrod said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“We believe that we are mounting up a very, very large lead in Iowa based on where those early votes are coming from,” he said, while indications in Florida “are very positive.”

. . .

Early voting in Iowa, Ohio and Florida shows the campaign’s strategy “is starting to pay off,” said Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who was Obama’s first White House chief of staff. In Ohio the president is up almost two to one in early voting, he said.

[octoberlib]

23. +1 nt

[Phx_Dem]

44. Note that Axe says "very very" large. Because one "very" wasn't enough!

[RomneyLies]

12. He HAS TO SAY THAT

If the Republican governor of Ohio so much as hinted at how badly they are losing Ohio, it would demoralize Republicans nationwide.

Seriously, that's all his assertions are about. It's about down ballot now. They cannot afford people thinking that there's no way they can win or they will lose the down ballots because their voters will stay home.

[Gin]

14. Private polls = they call 10 of their R friends and call it a poll..

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Hitler Told The German People Their Military Was Consolidating Their Victories In April Of 1945/nt

[underthematrix]

17. I started retweeting MY interpretation of stories from their original link

so for this story my retweet was:
"Ohio gov. predicts Romney win as auto politics dominate & confirms GOP push 2 win w e-voting fraud http://nbcnews.to/S69XpQ via @NBCFirstRead"

[alcibiades_mystery]

19. I hope it's the same internal polls that showed them a path to victory on SB-5

-----SNIP----

“I am more convinced now than ever that we have a clear path to victory,” said Jason Mauk, spokesman for Building a Better Ohio.

That path, said Mauk and several sources close to the campaign who asked not to be named, includes focusing on components of Senate Bill 5 that poll favorably with voters.

For example, the last two Quinnipiac polls show that voters favor provisions that require public employees to pay for at least 15 percent of their health care, contribute at least 10 percent toward their pensions, and get paid based on merit instead of tenure.

Mauk said internal polling and feedback from focus groups show similar results.

----SNIP----

http://dispatchpolitics.dispatch.com/content/stories/2011/07/31/defenders-confident-they-can-save-sb-5.html

[SheilaT]

20. I can't figure out how to find the clip,

but on election night four years ago, there was an epic sequence on Fox news where Karl Rove was bloviating about how McCain was going to take one particular state -- I'm thinking it was Pennsylvania -- and the other on-air guy, Britt Hume maybe -- interrupted Rove to say that the network had just given the state under discussion to Obama.

I'm hoping it will be a lot like this all election night this time around.

[fugop]

42. Funny!

I went looking for that the other day, too! Couldn't find it anywhere. I think Rove had just said McCain probably couldn 't win without Ohio and Hume gave him a, "Well, Karl? Guess what?" And announced Ohio for Obama. I loved that clip so much!

[Drunken Irishman]

55. Yes. That's how it went down...

I remember it vividly because I was flipping through the channels when I noticed Ohio was blue on the FOX News map. I stopped and realized Rove was playing around with their map to show how McCain HAD to win Ohio and was disappointed because I thought they had called it.

Then, a second later, Hume made the call and I yelled out, "HE WON OHIO!" and scared everyone at our election party because they weren't paying attention to the tv. Ah, what a night. Hope we're doing it again a week from Tuesday!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

21. The internals

Ya....if the internals aren't showing you leading, you're done.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

22. Watching him now. He's actually calling willard a job creator??!!

How he can say this with a straight face is beyond me. Oh, and BTW Obama had nothing to do with the
saving the auto industry. Ohio is doing great because they have made it the state companies find attractive
to do business in. That 1 in 8 jobs due to the auto industry has nothing to do with Obama. What a total
assh*le.

[randr]

25. There is no way for Romney to win Ohio honestly!

Now if he were to have some private interest in the voting apparatus------?

[craigmatic]

26. yeah it does sound like they plan to steal it.

[Blue Owl]

28. The Hart Intercivic polls?

n/t

[poetrynearth]

29. Hmm, Karl Rove or Psychological - Psyche out the Voters

Hey everyone..

I am actually an old poster from way back in the early years and decided to come back. My take on all of this is its all psychological and it could just as well be Karl Rove and his band of merry thieves working to try and steal the vote in Ohio. If they keep trying to put the message out there that they are going to win Ohio, maybe those who haven't voted will just stay home and not go vote. However, early voting has already begun. People need to keep voting and we need to make sure to keep with the GOTV message in Ohio and keep hammering. Keep putting out the message of the Romney family owning voting machines in that state. Keep attacking them on their message of what the polls show that NO you aren't winning in Ohio. Show that the Romney campaign has moved to Wisconsin because of the polls. Post it on twitter and facebook, and wherever you post it. I am sure the Obama campaign has the internal numbers and are well aware of what is going on.

Keep working to get the message out there..

[progressivebydesign]

51. Hi Welcome back!! You're right.. gotta GOTV!!

I've been using twitter a TON this election. It DOES make a difference because you can reach the media more easily and have people seeing things that they would normally not see.

[Tutonic]

31. What did you expect that he would say? He's getting paid to spin.

[ROBROX]

32. TRUTH WITH A CAPITAL "T"

I see that with all the millions being spent and the four years since the last election the process of electronically changing votes has been accomplished. It is true that many poles indicate a reelection but the poles also indicated a democratic win in 2004. This time enough votes will be changed to BUY an election which is what millions were supposed to accomplish. When millionaires buy something they know what they are BUYING.

SAD BUT TRUE :O(

[OldDem2012]

35. Nice to see your CONCERN...come back when you can't stay so long. nt.

[OldHippieChick]

46. "poles" really?

What do they have to do w/ anything? And the implication that the rich are brilliant? Troll-talk

Not sure what you graves you are digging, but would suggest that might be a good place for the millionaires and their "poles"

[budkin]

34. What else is he going to say? "I believe we're going to lose Ohio?"

Too obvious.

[Maeve]

37. K-sick wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the butt --Ignore him eom

[ashtonelijah]

38. This is from a former Fox News anchor... And you expect the truth?

Unless Kasich has some secret plans to throw the Ohio election we don't know about (which I doubt--not really a big tinfoil hat guy), then I seriously doubt he has any knowledge of anything showing Romney ahead.

Perhaps he's referring to polling showing Romney ahead among voters who will vote on election day (as opposed to early voters). That makes sense. But even in that case, based on what we've seen from early voting, Romney still loses easily. Dude needs to get out of government and back to Fox News.

[Curmudgeoness]

57. Welcome to DU, ashtonelijah.

I agree with you except for sending him back to Fox News....they have a full house of loonies already. I say he should have to get a job. A real job. Learn how to work for a living and have no influence on anyone.

[BlueDemKev]

41. Of course he's going to say that.

He's not going to predict defeat. Even Walter Mondale publicly predicted he'd win the '84 election right up until election day (knowing full well he was about to have his head handed to him).

[Phx_Dem]

43. I saw this toad on Meet the Press and fast forwarded right past him.

If I wanted to have bullshit blown up my ass, I'd listen to Romney.

[nobunnyclue]

45. Kasich will not survive reelection in 2014

Most Ohioans see through his privatization plans and "balanced budget", accomplished on the backs of cities and counties, as big time weakening the long term economic attractiveness of the state in attracting new businesses and retaining residents.

I would not count on him to have the pulse of the people in this state!

[LiberalFighter]

47. Maybe he will visit a nuclear facility and slip and fall into the pit.

[franklin200]

48. Take "internal polls" with a grain of salt

Just for laughs

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN NOV 5, 2000 17:50:29 ET XXXXX

BUSH INTERNALS REVEALED: LEADING GORE BY 5% IN FLORIDA; CALIFORNIA BY 2%

**Exclusive**

The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained the Bush campaign's most recent internal polling data.

The confidential data commissioned by Bush shows the Texas Governor topping Vice President Gore by 5% in Florida, 9% in Michigan and by 2% in California, within the margin of error.

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MORE

Bush's internal polling shows the governor up 4% in Washington state and up 10% in Missouri. One sour spot for Bush: Pennsylvania, where he finds himself down 2% into the homestretch.

A campaign spokesman refused comment on the polling leak.

[MjolnirTime]

49. He also said his Union busting Bill would be upheld. How'd that work out?

[Blue Idaho]

50. Kasich is a bald faced liar.

He has been wrong on just about everything since he entered the Governor's office. He has massivley overstepped and will not survive the next election cycle.

Time to stop listening to these liars and start spending our time on our ground game.

Get Out The Vote!

[UCmeNdc]

52. Is he able to steal the election?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

58. with romney's son's voting machines

[OldDem2012]

54. Ever notice how confident certain people are right before they lose? nt.

[Mr.Bill]

60. I distinctly remember Bob Dole on the eve of the '96 election saying he was "absolutely certain"

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he was going to win all 50 states. These people are surrounded by yes men. How long do you think you would be working on the Romney campaign if you said you were going to lose?

[jmowreader]

56. He almost has to say something like this

If Kasich were to go on national television and announce that Romney was screwed in Ohio and even more screwed on the national level, the national Republican party has plenty of money and plenty of time to primary him into political oblivion. And I am almost certain our friend Mr. Priebus telephoned Mr. Kasich this morning to remind him of that.

He also needs to consider the downticket races. If Kasich were to go up there and announce Romney would definitely lose Ohio, a LOT of Republicans would stay home. Boehner is safe (he is running unopposed this year) but he's probably the only one.

[argiel1234]

59. When he is referring to "internals"

he is referring to the manipulation of electronic voting. these are companies that are owned by Republican interests with proprietary software that is illegal to examine. the illusion of voting is all but taken away

[Mr.Turnip]

61. Usually when Candidates want to refute a bad perception with their internal polling

They release the actual internals, wonder why Kasich and friends aren't doing that here.