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You want to know how great the Obama ground game is in NC? (Original Post) mnhtnbb Oct 2012 OP
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #1
Enjoy your 11 second stay here! tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #3
GravisMarketing stopped by to say hi! grantcart Oct 2012 #13
True... MSMITH33156 Oct 2012 #4
Enjoy your short stay. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #5
Romney is "winding" the entire nation. Kurovski Oct 2012 #6
Heh. Lex Oct 2012 #8
Beat me to it! :-) nt msrizzo Oct 2012 #9
Same thing you assholes said about McCain. Lex Oct 2012 #7
This Asheville residents prays you are right! young_at_heart Oct 2012 #2
Wow! I'm impressed! First time I've drawn a hidden by jury response! mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #10
The campaign has NOT pulled out: I've seen Obama ads while watching football today. mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #11
You may also be interested in this dailykos diarist grantcart Oct 2012 #14
Actually, I'm not impressed with this. LOTS of assumptions...difficult to defend... mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #15
I think you miss the point grantcart Oct 2012 #16
Oh yea you did. You can always tell when you've stung them good and proper. nc4bo Oct 2012 #12
Absolutely amazing. lindysalsagal Oct 2012 #17
Obama has the better ground game, good for 2% Phillyindy Oct 2012 #18
Better ground game and metrics ItsTheMediaStupid Oct 2012 #19

Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)

young_at_heart

(3,770 posts)
2. This Asheville residents prays you are right!
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:21 PM
Oct 2012

Buncombe County was the only blue one in the mountains, but one can hope!

mnhtnbb

(31,397 posts)
11. The campaign has NOT pulled out: I've seen Obama ads while watching football today.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:41 PM
Oct 2012

GOTV remains impressive.

See my thread about NC voter turnout: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251171317

mnhtnbb

(31,397 posts)
15. Actually, I'm not impressed with this. LOTS of assumptions...difficult to defend...
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 06:02 PM
Oct 2012

counts votes by candidate rather than party.

NC is NOT tabulating votes other than by party at this point.

It's very difficult to know whether the assumptions from 2008 carry over.

We've had disastrous mid-terms...local school board elections which generated
huge uproar...all because Dems did not turn out to vote.

I would hazard a guess that our Dem registration is more truly Dems now.
No way to know the crossover vote...but you've seen some major Repubs
endorse Obama: Stockman (Reagan's budget director); Colin Powell and
even the Winston Salem Journal (Republican country) endorsed Obama
and they haven't endorsed a Dem for President since LBJ.

You also can't know the effect of Michelle and Jill making military families
a focus of their efforts. We have LOTS of active and retired military
in NC.

In other words, I wouldn't trust the assumptions based on previous elections.
I can only put my hope in the 800,000+ more Dems registered than Repubs
in NC.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
16. I think you miss the point
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 06:15 PM
Oct 2012

The value is not whether the assumptions are perfect or not, and if you read his methodological piece they are reasonable assumptions.

But putting the question of the assumptions themselves aside the more valuable point is the historical comparision between 2012 and 2008 with the same set of assumptions. In that vein it is very useful in showing a very strong historical point by point comparison of actual performance, whether or not you agree with the assumptions.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
12. Oh yea you did. You can always tell when you've stung them good and proper.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:45 PM
Oct 2012

The screeching, snarling and urinating on the floor are undeniable signs of pwnage.

May I offer you a big ole CONGRATULATIONS!!!

ItsTheMediaStupid

(2,800 posts)
19. Better ground game and metrics
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:23 AM
Oct 2012

I was listening to an NPR interview with a pollster (sorry, didn't get the name) who was talking about the science of identifying the voters you are interested in. He said that social scientists had made a lot of progrees here that was getting incorporated into political campaigns.

He was asked if either side had an advantage and the answer was yes, the democrats are much better versed in this.

The ever dutiful NPR asked why the liberals, and the anwswer was because the people doing the research had contacted them to test the methodologies.

My point is that Obama is probably doing stuff with voter identification that these pollsters are not accounting for and we may be doing better than anyone knows at this point.

Since Democrats have more sporadic voters, getting them to the polls will yield better results than the repubs, because most repubs vote in every election, regardless.

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