Jonathan Capehart on MSNBC tonight: Bernie Sanders is out of his mind!

[grasswire]

Capehart also stated that "African Americans put a block on Sanders' revolution."

That's a very interesting statement.

What do you make of it?

He was also quite adamant that AA support for Clinton exists BECAUSE she is expected to preserve Obama's legacy.

If you find video of this on Hardball before I do, please post it here.

[jfern]

1. They only stopped Bruce Rappaport

[JonLeibowitz]

2. Capehart is one of the hackiest of the hacks. I only pay attention to him for comedy.

I only wish he knew how funny he was!

[grasswire]

3. He is kind of a caricature, yes.

He sure does love the camera.

[CorporatistNation]

32. TOTAL Effing SHILL/HILLBOT!

They just cannot find enuff dirtballs to put on MSNBC...

[Armstead]

59. Reminds me of Steve Urkel

[SusanCalvin]

64. Yeah, but I still like Urkel. nt

[Armstead]

65. Why's the guy on Biog Bang Theory?

Him too

[SusanCalvin]

66. Howard, I assume? (That's the closest match I can come up with offhand.) nt

[SusanCalvin]

4. That "journalist" shouldn't be on the air or in print.

I used to like him, but I will never forget that ham-handed hit piece that he never even retracted, much less apologized for. And the inane Twitter posts that went with it.

ETA: And the inane followup piece.

[grasswire]

5. and never reprimanded for, either.

And Tweety just lets him blather on.

[SusanCalvin]

7. Yeah, my beef is with the WaPo as well. nt

[whathehell]

8. What was the hit piece?

Just curious.

[SusanCalvin]

10. This.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/02/11/stop-sending-around-this-photo-of-bernie-sanders/

And when Capehart was proven wrong he blathered instead of retracting and/or apologizing.

ETA: This, IIRC, is the blather:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/02/13/bernie-sanders-and-the-clash-of-memory/

[whathehell]

121. Thanks, Susan

Yeah, I get it..He's a turd.

[grasswire]

11. the falsified photo mess of Bernie as a civil rights activist

Capehart ran hard and wild with it, and refused to ever apologize.

[TM99]

22. It was swiftboating plain and simple.

And Clinton, Brock, and her supporters hear and elsewhere not only tolerated it but encouraged it.

Unfuckingforgivable!

[2banon]

79. Straight Up from Tricky Dick's playbook, straight up!

as I say in another post, she learned well sitting in the watergate committee hearings. filed it away for a later day...

and that day has arrived for her, first in 2008 against Obama, did not hesitate, she went full bore, and now. same ole playbook.

[Autumn]

126. It was disgusting that so many here went along with it, when they knew better.

[TM99]

144. It is just blue team/red team

adolescence.

As long as it is for MY team, who cares if it is despicable, vile, and dishonest.

[whathehell]

25. Oh yes..

I remember...He really seems to dislike Bernie..I don't know why.

[HooptieWagon]

30. His boyfriend works for Clinton campaign.

[whathehell]

97. Okay. Thanks for that information. n/t

[Skwmom]

28. You do realize they continued to push that lie after it was debunked?

[SusanCalvin]

45. No, I didn't. Not surprised, though. nt

[TM99]

6. Capeheart is out of his fucking mind.

That hack is so full of shit he could be a Christmas turkey.

Yes, indeed, he is one of the AA that actively lied to put a block on Sander's revolution.

Pay attention to that my friends. When either Trump or Clinton fucks the AA even more, he is one of the little turds we can thank.

What Obama legacy? Drone stikes? Violations of the 14th Amendment? The insurance mandate? The TPP? What exactly has he done for the AA community? Has he promoted economic justice through his love of Wall Street? Has he promoted social justice with any actual DoJ intervention with policing in this country?

Fuck no.

[grasswire]

13. Tell me how you really feel?

Righteous rant.

[TM99]

17. That punk

riles me with his self-righteous lying and Brockian smearing.

[grasswire]

21. yes, he has earned our burn since he took up with Hill. nt

[frylock]

69. Who the fuck are we going to be saddled with in 8 years to preserve Hillary's legacy?

Fuck this model of selecting candidates. I am Audi 5000.

[grasswire]

73. good point

David Brock, I guess.

[2banon]

80. brock will be her chief of staff. oh gawd

[grasswire]

81. I called that yesterday.

And Blumenthal Sec State.

[2banon]

85. didn't see that, but great minds, which is a sign of something

or other.

but damn it we're foretelling the nightmare right before us.. why does it feel exactly like it did when Bush/Cheney got selected. ?

[grasswire]

89. it feels that way because it is more of the same.

More wars
more graft
more lies
more drama
more special interests
more oligarchy
more .... all of it.

[frylock]

87. That would be the ultimate affront to Obama.

[TM99]

92. No shit!

Well Cheney will be too old so perhaps Jeb Bush again.

[dchill]

128. Chelsea Clinton. Then, 8 years later....

We can vote for her husband. We won't have to hold our noses, though, because we'll all be wearing atmosphere masks.

[frylock]

132. I really want to laugh at this.

[dchill]

133. I know, but don't.

It's just a logical progression, which is not humor-based.

[2banon]

70. a righteous rant, but this made me laugh

That hack is so full of shit he could be a Christmas turkey

[TM99]

72. That was one of my dear father's

favorite phrases.

I always laughed as a boy when he said it. Now I am righteously ranting myself.

[2banon]

77. What a great hand off from the beloved elders!

Stealin'!!! <3 <3 <3

[TM99]

86. Please do!

He would have approved.

[artislife]

88. +1000

[dionysus]

9. why did he say he was out of his mind? AAs did help a lot to block Bernie, although I don't

quite get why (I find the argument that Bernie doesn't care about blacks to be bullshit).

As far as Obama's legacy, any dem would preserve his legacy. I happen to think Bernie would have done an excellent job building upon that legacy. oh well. another primary done with. good riddance.

[grasswire]

14. the "out of his mind" was in reference to something political

...and I need the clip to remember what. I was in the middle of making egg fu yung.

[grasswire]

16. I don't believe that parts of his legacy can't be criticized.

And how will we ever grow as a democracy if we aren't allowed to criticize a president?

That's what totalitarian, repressive societies do.

[dionysus]

20. oh, he's no saint, of course he can, and i assure you will, be criticized!

[Gwhittey]

33. See post #10

That article and African American members on congress lying about Sanders turned off the black community because they thought he was lying about protesting in 1960s. And couple that with the media lying about Sanders and his supporters being racist white men turned worked.

[dionysus]

41. i can't believe john lewis went so far as to say bernie was overstating his support for civil rights

[SusanCalvin]

51. I still adore John Lewis, and can't imagine not doing so,

but I was so disappointed and sad with that episode.

[Skwmom]

37. HUGE irony. Obama wants Clinton to preserve his legacy. The Clintons will tarnish it with a taint

that will never be removed. History will not be kind. And the Clintons will not be able to keep from criticizing Obama once they get back in control. Bernie, on the other hand, would paint Obama's legacy in a much more favorable light. Obama would have been credited with bringing forth an "enlightened" period under a President Sanders. It would build on the more favorable portions of Obama's legacy.

[dionysus]

39. i agree. i don't think the clintons ever forgave obama for kicking their asses. they won't be able

to help themselves. anything they can blame on him rather than her as SoS will be done, for sure.

[SusanCalvin]

47. I do think the Hillary reactions that I react negatively to

are often on the level of reflex. She can control her image most times, but sometimes she doesn't.

[liberal from boston]

135. Go Bernie

Love this video of a young AA female supporter taking on a Clinton Strategist. http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-supporter-slams-cnn/

[Vattel]

148. Wow, that was an awesome takedown! Thx for sharing.

[JaneyVee]

12. True.

[whatchamacallit]

15. Just a burning ball of hate

aren't ya?

[JoePhilly]

18. I have a guess ...

... Obama has been an outstanding President by any standard.

Having said that ... the RW hates him and makes up all manner of nonsense to attack him. And much of that is racial driven.

Meanwhile ... there is a segment of the left who also dislikes Obama. They predicted double-dip recessions because of him. They said he'd never end DADT. Said he'd never raise taxes on the 1%. Said he'd cut Social Security. Said he'd invade Iran. Said he'd never leave Iraq.

But he did all these things and more.

He even brought unemployment down from about 10.2% to around 5%.

But a segment of the left still hates him. And they hate Clinton. And love Bernie.

I suspect that some African Americans notice.

[Skwmom]

27. Would you stop with the "left dislikes Obama." We dislike his policies.

I voted for Obama and registered people to vote for him. You do realize don't you that there are Black Americans who do not support Obama?

The Oligarchy LOVES their identity politics. Anytime you don't go along with a corporate agenda you are either a racist or a sexist.
And using it as a tool ensures that racism and sexism will be with us forevermore.

[SusanCalvin]

54. Bingo.

I want to hug that man's neck (an expression I heard in my childhood, and remember doing so to adults while they held me in their arms).

I believe he's one of the best human beings who's ever held the office.

I also believe that in our current system you have to be a corporatist to get there.

ETA: And dear God I appreciate him. He didn't have to do it but he did. I'm mad at him for a number of things but I love him. By Heinlein's definition and also by emotion.

[artislife]

90. If they can't label us, they can't control us. nt

[Number23]

94. You got that right.

But a segment of the left still hates him. And they hate Clinton. And love Bernie.

I suspect that some African Americans notice.

[aikoaiko]

101. I remember when HRC said she wasn't running for a third Obama term.

And then she stopped saying that.

[PragmaticLiberal]

150. "I suspect that some African Americans notice."

[noretreatnosurrender]

19. Journalist?

Try faux journalist. I didn't like Capehart before the election. Everything he writes about is to curry favor with the powerful and connected. He's a wanna be that is more interested in cocktail party weenies than he is in doing honest journalism. His vacuous views do not interest me in the least.

[grasswire]

24. don't forget that he has a personal connection to Hill.

His partner works for her.

[noretreatnosurrender]

26. Didn't know that

and don't care. He is a nothing. Sorry to be so blunt but he just rubs me the wrong way.

[SusanCalvin]

44. Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that. nt

[TM99]

62. Kiss up and kick down.

That is Capeheart.

[Major Nikon]

75. Results...

On Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:18 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Journalist?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1861167

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Remarking that a gay person is "only interested in cocktail party weenies" is slyly bashing his sexual orientation.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:25 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think the alerter is either trying too hard to be offended or is trolling this poster.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Wha?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alert is paranoia, didn't read it that way and doubt it was meant that way
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: That's quite a reach.

[SusanCalvin]

99. I was about to say I can't believe that was alerted on, but unfortunately I can. nt

[Bohunk68]

104. As a gay man, reading that, it is exactly the way I interpreted the remark

about wienies. However, I have heard a lot worse, so, I just did a MEH and made note of the commenter's handle.

[noretreatnosurrender]

120. Sorry It was interpreted that way

Please see my historical references of when that phrase was used further down in the thread. The phrase has nothing to do with being gay. I dislike Capehart because he kisses up to power instead of holding them accountable.

[Bohunk68]

147. I had read your post down further and went to reply to it

thanking you for that other interpretation, but, the thingees said I had already posted it. Which I hadn't, it was confused. Hadn't really thought about those damn little sausages. Which, I must admit I do like the cheese and the smoked ones. I think Capehart is a twit. I made the remark on his fb page that he was only there because of his bf. Now, I cannot comment on his posts which is ok, because I defriended him and all the rest of the MSNBC hacks.

[noretreatnosurrender]

149. Thanks

Glad you got to see where I got that phrase and see that it had nothing to do with being anti-gay because I'm sure in the hell not.

That glitch you experienced has happened to me too? Strange.

Pleased to meet you by the way. and very happy you told off Capehart too.

[SusanCalvin]

141. Ah. I must admit that I read that as just "cocktail circuit,"

especially since there was more than that to the post. But I now see your point.

[noretreatnosurrender]

100. Oh My

Really? My thanks to the jurors. I can't believe someone actually thought that saying cocktail party weenies was an attack on Capehart for being gay. That is REALLY reaching. This phrase and variations on it was often used to describe the Washington Press Corp. back in the early 2000s. I believe the phrase was coined by Jane Hamsher at Firedoglake website. It has NOTHING to do with being gay. It has everything to do with Wash. Press careerist who are more interested in gossiping at cocktail parties while rubbing elbows with the rich and powerful then in actually covering those people as real journalists. Those kind of faux journalists were said to be regulars on the cocktail weenie party circuit.

[Major Nikon]

105. Well you have to admit, "cocktail weenie" has two sexual implications

[Bohunk68]

107. Interesting historical information. Personally, I do not know

of a lot of persons on the Washington circuit that could share that tidbit. It does make some sense. When I first read it, I surely did think it was in reference to his preference. Only because I had not heard of your explanation. Hey, there's so much info out there, no one of us can take it all in.

[Major Nikon]

111. Cocktail weenies were once an essential hors d'oeuvre at any civilized party

You dumped them in a fondue pot along with some bbq sauce and washed them down with martinis.

[noretreatnosurrender]

118. Here's some historical references

I did a quick search and found these old posts that talk about the cocktail weenie crowd. I wish I could have found the very first one Jane used. It was hysterically funny.

People on both the left and the right confuse Joe Klein with a real Democrat and mistake his incomprehensible political philosophy for that of the Democratic Party. If there is nothing else that the liberal blogosphere can do, we must make it clear to the American people and the Democratic politicians that Joe Klein speaks only for his elite, insider cadre of cocktail weenie addicts. His opinions are irrelevant to serious Democratic politics.

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2006_02_26_archive.html

He just doesn’t seem to understand the nature of the current political environment, probably because he is ensconced in the bosom of the establishment, sharing cocktail weenies with the cognoscenti and believing his own hype. The terrain looks far different from where the rest of us sit. "His way" looks a lot like treachery.

https://shadowproof.com/2006/03/31/george-bushs-favorite-democrat-running-scared/

And this one is more recent referencing Jane Hamsher

Anonymous3:27 PM

Bernie should drop out with 15 states left to save Clinton money?! It's not Bernie's fault if Clinton didn't prepare to run a complete primary. I think that's the main reason why DWS, the DNC and the rest of the "cocktail weenie circuit" as Jane Hamsher used to call them, have fought so hard against Bernie: they know Clinton didn't prepare for running a full primary - financially or physicallyShe's having to take two days off while Sanders campaigns on at the same pace. Not Sanders' problem. It's like telling Serena Williams' opponent in the Wimbledon semi-final she should default to let Serena save her energy for the final. What a load of bull.

[Skwmom]

23. I remember reading the comments from the photographer who took the disputed photo. He said something

about Capehart acting rather strange when he talked to him.

So let's make the focus on preserving Obama's legacy rather than focusing on bettering the lives of so many minorities that are living in poverty, being poisoned by drinking water, sending their kids to schools with mold and rodents, and being shot, killed and terrorized by a militant police force. Yeah, that makes perfect sense to me.

[Bluenorthwest]

29. Capehart is a lying hack and I just won't watch Matthews anymore

Capehart and others were willing to smear private citizens and employ horrific antisemitic tropes against Bernie Sanders. The admins here joined in on Capehart's attack on Danny Lyon. I do not respect that at all.

[Depaysement]

38. +1

Spot on.

[SusanCalvin]

43. I missed that one - might you be so kind as to give me a summary? nt

[Fumesucker]

93. There was a thread by Skinner where he came in "asking questions" about the Rapaport photo thing

It took about two days for Berners to "convince" Skinner that there nothing to the crap Capehart was smearing on the walls of the M$M.

I don't think Skinner realized that all he managed to do was point out the effectiveness of Swiftboating, even *he* was fooled by a fairly transparent lie.

So much stuff has gone down this primary that it took Bluenorthwest to nudge my memory on that one, I remembered the thread but not the specific topic until he mentioned it.

[SusanCalvin]

142. Thanks.

[Purveyor]

31. Who the hell is Jonathan Capehart? Never heard of him... Nt

[SusanCalvin]

40. A hack, as far as I'm concerned. nt

[villager]

34. She's expected to be a Rockefeller Republican and get nothing substantial done on Climate Change?

Will the bully pulpit on that issue remain empty for another 4-8 years?

[LiberalElite]

35. hmmm. WHO's out of his mind? nt

[Peregrine Took]

36. Bitter against Sanders re: the photo.

Apparently hasn't recovered from his embarrassing gaffe.

[SusanCalvin]

42. I don't believe he was ever embarrassed.... nt

[grasswire]

74. ah, good point....nt

[LexVegas]

46. He's right. nt

[SusanCalvin]

48. Oh, I agree.

Still doesn't mean I think he's a journalist.

[SusanCalvin]

49. Why did he say Bernie was out of his mind?

Just idle curiosity....

[grasswire]

53. I'm really trying to remember

I guess I'll have to wait for the clip. I was busy in the kitchen.

[grasswire]

91. memory jogged

He said Bernie was out of his mind to call for Hillary to ask his supporters to unite, not himself.

[peace13]

106. Well, I think he knows his supporters better than she does.

If she wants something she needs to ask for it! She needs to answer some questions if she needs help. Pretty simple. The tactics she has used may have gotten her more votes but not enough votes to win. Face it.

[Lazy Daisy]

50. I saw that

Was difficult to stomach. Was never a big fan of Capehart, I now have contempt for him.

[Gothmog]

52. There are good reasons why Sanders is not appealing to African American and other voters

There are good reasons why the demographics are not working for Sanders and why many voters including some African American voters are not supporting Sanders. Demographics are important in that this explains one of the big divides between Sanders supporters and Clinton supporters. There is a vast difference in how Sanders supporters and Sanders view President Obama and how other Democrats view President Obama. I admit that I am impressed with the amount accomplished by President Obama in face of the stiff GOP opposition to every one of his proposals and I personally believe that President Obama has been a great President. It seems that this view colors who I am supporting in the primary http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-sanders-obama_us_56aa378de4b05e4e3703753a?utm_hp_ref=politics

But lurking behind this argument about the future is a dispute that's really about the past. It’s a debate over what Obama accomplished in office -- in particular, how significant those accomplishments really are. And it's been simmering on the left for most of the last seven years.

On one side of this divide are activists and intellectuals who are ambivalent, disappointed or flat-out frustrated with what Obama has gotten done. They acknowledge what they consider modest achievements -- like helping some of the uninsured and preventing the Great Recession from becoming another Great Depression. But they are convinced that the president could have accomplished much more if only he’d fought harder for his agenda and been less quick to compromise.

They dwell on the opportunities missed, like the lack of a public option in health care reform or the failure to break up the big banks. They want those things now -- and more. In Sanders, they are hearing a candidate who thinks the same way.

On the other side are partisans and thinkers who consider Obama's achievements substantial, even historic. They acknowledge that his victories were partial and his legislation flawed. This group recognizes that there are still millions of people struggling to find good jobs or pay their medical bills, and that the planet is still on a path to catastrophically high temperatures. But they see in the last seven years major advances in the liberal crusade to bolster economic security for the poor and middle class. They think the progress on climate change is real, and likely to beget more in the future.

It seems that many of the Sanders supporters hold a different view of President Obama which is also a leading reason why Sanders is not exciting African American voters. Again, it may be difficult for Sanders to appeal to African American voters when one of the premises of his campaign is that Sanders does not think that President Obama is a progressive or a good POTUS.

Again, I am not ashamed to admit that I like President Obama and think that he has accomplished a great deal which is why I do not mind Hillary Clinton promising to continue President Obama's legacy. There are valid reasons why many non-African American democrats (myself included) and many African American Democratic voters are not supporting Sanders.

I understand why Sanders supporters dislike talking about demographics but the fact remain that Sanders supporters tend to not like President Obama and that dislike affects the amount of support that Sanders is getting from certain demographic groups.

[SusanCalvin]

56. I'm sure you're right. Capehart's still a hack. nt

[Armstead]

67. I like Obama a lot. Would vote for him again if he could run. But.....

He also was disappointing to me on a number of levels. The TPP and the equivalent in Europe are disasters in the making. Obamacare should have provided a pubic option, and laid the groundwork for single payer down the line. In stead it did just the opposite by further embedding private insurance, and forcing people to buy coverage they cannot afford. He should not have flirted with the GOP on Social Security "adjustments."

Those issues have nothing do do with the fact that is he is an AA.They also affect working people of every color and ethnic heritage.

It's a damn shame this primary could not have been about all the issues.

[Gothmog]

115. It was about the issues including which candidate would preserve President Obama's legacy

[Armstead]

117. Depends on which legacy

Sanders is not Obama, and neither is Clinton.

Other than the TPP and free trade crap, I can't think of anything Obama did that Sanders wanted to roll back on. He wanted to build on them, just as Clinton claims she wants to.

[peace13]

108. I don't know where they get there numbers.

We worked like dogs for Obama and we support Bernie. Many people do. Obama supporters lived through the smear campaign by Clinton and came out on top. I can't imagine anyone forgetting those days. This campaign has been no different for Bernie. I support President Obama. I may not agree with everything he does but I support him. If I have a problem with him it sure as *ell isn't because he is black. It is childish to think that people will always agree over the course of eight years.

That being said, people who discount Bernie's activism have serious problems. Individuals either believe in equality or they don't. He has clearly demonstrated that he does. I wretch when I see the video with Hill saying that 'We need to bring them to heel!" That my friends is disgusting, unforgivable and an ingrained problem.

[Gothmog]

114. Sanders has attacked President Obama and pursued a 2012 primary challenge to Obama

Many Obama supporters do not trust Sanders to preserve President Obama's legacy and that hurt Sanders

[peace13]

123. Obama has not been perfect.

He hit back at his supporters pretty early on. Everyone knows that he is not perfect. Likewise they understand that the job before him was huge and the people he was left to work with were difficult. The speed with which history is rewritten does not warrant worry about legacy. I think most Obama supporters are smarter than that. Just because we hear it in the press does not make it true. Maybe we are bitter too..did they say that?

[Gothmog]

125. Many Obama supporters disagree which is why Sanders lost their support

The attacks on Obama by Sanders explains to a large degree one of the reasons why Sanders failed to win the support of POC and other groups who support Obama. I am not a POC but I am a supporter of President Obama and Sanders' attacks played a role in my vote and support.

[grasswire]

130. when and how did Sanders attack Obama? nt

[peace13]

136. Please link to the attacks of which you speak.

[SusanCalvin]

143. Oh, "pursued" my rear end.

He made a few hypothetical statements.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/10/martin-omalley/fact-checking-martin-omalleys-claim-bernie-sanders/

[MisterP]

55. did he just say AAs like payday lenders, outsourcing, police murder coverups, corruption,

and jail for MJ?

BECAUSE IT SURE SOUNDED LIKE HE DID

[SusanCalvin]

57. Urk. I'd try to find it,

but I gotta go to bed. Plus I don't like throwing up just before I go to bed.

[grasswire]

60. NO, but this is what he DID SAY!!

And I forgot it until now.

He said that Bernie, in his speech wasn't talking about we Democrats. That Bernie did not consider himself to be a Democrat and was trying to TURN DEMOCRATS AGAINST THEIR OWN PARTY!!

AND THEN........he said that Bernie did not say "We Democrats" or "You Democrats" but that Bernie said (in essence) "DEM DEMOCRATS"!! In other words, he said that Bernie slurred Democrats.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[Smarmie Doofus]

58. Look who's talking. nt

[berni_mccoy]

61. Capeheart is the H A Goodman of the Hillary fans.

[TM99]

63. Oh, he is far, far worse.

He got caught swiftboating and still lies about it.

[BernieforPres2016]

139. I agree. Goodman is a blind cheerleader.

Capehart is pure scum.

[Bread and Circus]

68. My sense is black people think Clinton will be an Obama third term.

Maybe they are right...who knows?

[Jitter65]

71. My guess is that black people think Sanders will forget about them as soon as he is in office...if

he wins.

[Armstead]

109. And they would be totally wrong about that

[Bread and Circus]

110. Based on what? Raising their wages, giving them all health care, paying for their college,

Leading a fight against civil rights and police abuses, leading the fight against baking their planet, ensuring they have a right to freedom from being spied on, stopping sending their sons and daughters to stupid wars and foreign adventurism, trying to end mass incarceration and militarization of racist police depts?

Oh the horror?

Stop and think... if their is one person who is likely to cut and run for political expediency... it is not Sanders.

But whatever Hillary is the nominee now. Enjoy your cake.

[Firebrand Gary]

76. Capehart is correct.

We need to listen to one another and stop trashing each other, otherwise we will have a hard time moving forward. Capehart is angry with Sander's for Sander's irresponsibility. To say to the people that HRC must reach out to his supporters as if he has no responsibility in it is radically foolish. HRC did not make that demand to then Senator Obama, it was her job to bring her supporters to Obama and she worked harder than anyone to do it. Sander's abdication is wholly negligent. Hence Capehart's statement "He's out of his mind".

[grasswire]

78. thank you for the memory jog

yes, that's what led to Capehart saying that Sanders is out of his mind.

But the mood of Bernie supporters is NOT GOING TO accommodate him asking them to repudiate everything they are fighting for. If he asked them to unite, there would be more chaos than there is now.

Hillary can move to the left to attract progressives. Or she can move to the right to attract never Trumpers.

Or she can lose the GE.

[Firebrand Gary]

95. Hillary should stay right where she is.

People like yourself are first to demand that she change, then you turn around and question her integrity for that change. She's winning by 3.1 million votes, Sander's is the one who should change.

[SusanCalvin]

145. I'm not demanding that she change. I don't trust her anyway.... nt

[2banon]

82. ROFL

[Armstead]

102. Then "listen to one another" yourself

Capehart is angry with Sander's for Sander's irresponsibility. To say to the people that HRC must reach out to his supporters as if he has no responsibility in it is radically foolish.

You aren't listening to Sanders.He is being honest. It's not about him. If Clinton wins it's up to her to earn the votes of his supporters by incorporating the issues he has been advocating for into her platform -- AND, more importantly walk that talk if she gets into the WH.

HRC did not make that demand to then Senator Obama,

She did not have to, because most of their differences were personal, not policy or basic message. And she did not do it solely out of unselfish service. There were behind the scenes quid-pro-quos....I don't think you'll see Clinton appointing Sanders as Secretary of State over many more qualified possibilities.

[UMTerp01]

83. I see no lies in his statement about African Americans

Where are the lies?



No lies found!!!

[grasswire]

84. careful. I am itching to give someone a Dutch Rub or a Noogie.

Or call Skittles for you.

[Rebkeh]

96. There are no lies because it's not a factual statement, for one.

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He assumes the success of the revolution is based solely on the election, for two.

He is mistaken. It's also more dirty tricks to create the illusion that to be for Bernie is to be against black people.



The dumbest lie yet.

[moriah]

98. I'd rather ignore Capehart.

He's pretty clearly a Hillary supporter blogger, and hasn't done much to make her look good, given Photogate.

I don't see his opinions as carrying a great deal of weight, nor do I see him as any sort of insider to think his opinions might be more than just that.

[peace13]

103. Imagine if he had said that about Hill!

The outrage that would ensue! Well, Jonathan's check will be in the mail. His work is done!

[Vinca]

112. Jonathan Capehart has been one of the most partisan "journalists" this election season.

Prior to this primary, I had a great deal of respect for him, but my opinion has changed dramatically.

[Octafish]

113. Capehart is projecting again.

First he makes up stories. Then he says he didn't. Then he makes up more stories.

Guy sounds psychotic.

[Setsuna1972]

116. Yep !

I couldn't have said it better myself . Bernie has lost it big time, and the mixed messages from his campaign only makes things worse !

[Trajan]

129. Oh Damn ...

I just lost you, big time ...

I must have pressed some kind of button or sumfin ...

[Lizzie Poppet]

119. At least Bernie has a mind to lose. Capehart? Not so much. (nt)

[BernieforPres2016]

122. Jonathan Capehart should be out of journalism along with Janet Cooke

Capehart tried to smear Bernie with a lie and as far as I can tell, he never received any sanctions from either the Washington Post or MSNBC. He doesn't really even pretend to be a real journalist. He is a Clinton campaign operative in all but title.

For those who aren't old enough to remember, Janet Cooke is a former Washington Post reporter who won a Pulitzer Prize for an article that turned out to be entirely made up. She resigned and her Pulitzer was withdrawn.

http://jclass.umd.edu/archive/newshoax/casestudies/journalists/JourJim3.html

[MisterP]

137. Capehart, Judith Miller, Erdely, James Q. Wilson, and a host of others--don't Clintonistas

ever stop and think that their entire worldview has been created from thin air by highly discredited journalists and researchers? that not one plank of the Clintonite platform is based in reality?

[BernieforPres2016]

138. Based on his columns during this campaign, you could add Paul Krugman to the list

It is impossible to reconcile the Krugman of this 2014 interview with Bill Moyers with the one from this primary season.

[MisterP]

140. he's Thomas Friedman for the other party

[SusanCalvin]

146. Ain't that the truth? nt

[arcane1]

124. When Hillary makes him White House Press Secretary, how many DUers will pretend he has credibility?

Too many, I'm sure.

[dchill]

127. This guy is do credibility-compromised that he should only...

appear with a hazardous waste symbol overlay on the screen.

[Lil Missy]

131. Simply stating the facts. n/t

[ThePhilosopher04]

134. Capehart is the worst of the worst shills. I've lost all respect for the man.

[merrily]

151. The dishonest, obsessed Capehart opposes going left of Obama? Did he happen to say why?

[randr]

152. The results of Obamas' legacy for AA's are not in

The emergence of Black Lives Matter is one consequence that I am not so sure he wants credit for; and I see BLM as a positive force that came about in serious times of need.

[jane123]

153. Kind of funny that Capehart thinks that Clinton will continue

Obama's legacy with the black community...have the lives of the black community improved under president Obama...are their employment levels higher...is their standard of living better...are their schools better...are their neighborhoods safer...To be honest it has only been Sanders who has been talking about the extreme poverty of the inner cities...it has been Sanders who has been talking about the high unemployment levels in the black community..it is Sanders who has been talking about reducing the levels of blacks that are incarcerated with education and job training...so excuse me but I have not heard much of anything about these critical issues from Obama or Hillary...all I hear day in and day out is how much the black community support her which I find stunning. In my mind carrying on Obama's legacy means continuing to make major changes to continue to improve the lives of citizens and not settling for incrementalism which is what Hillary is offering...if Obama believed in incrementalism or the status quo the ACA would never have passed.