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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:29 PM Apr 2016

Rachel is reporting that Democrats are happier than ever with the party...

...while Republicans are angrier than every with theirs.

Also, Americans at large prefer the Democratic Party over the Republican Party, by far.

According to Pew Studies.


Interesting...


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Rachel is reporting that Democrats are happier than ever with the party... (Original Post) onehandle Apr 2016 OP
I think because they know Dems are SANER Iliyah Apr 2016 #1
This is also the byproduct of a contested primary, it gets out the word and energizes the base. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #27
According to All Polls According to Pollster Stallion Apr 2016 #2
gee the batshit rapidly imploding GOP is sure a high standard to compare to Armstead Apr 2016 #23
Awesome, Dems are slightly less angry at their party than Pukes! lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #33
"forgotten and ignored." Armstead Apr 2016 #34
Funny thing is Andy823 Apr 2016 #50
The way I see it, "droves" have been left behind, not the other way around. lagomorph777 May 2016 #70
I heard that. 88% favs. Obama and DWS are doing great. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #3
DWS??? You are insane! Nt Logical Apr 2016 #62
Oh shit ... Rachel better watch out for large buses. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #4
And, small DUers. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #63
among non political junkies, the majproity of any party, she's probably right.. dionysus Apr 2016 #5
What a worthless tool she is whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #6
When MA was getting ready to vote, the Secretary of State came out and said Samantha Apr 2016 #7
Bill Clinton did the same thing with jobless numbers. vintx Apr 2016 #14
Well when you have Ms. Clinton Cheerleeder who is arguably the smartest person on tv (per the Skwmom Apr 2016 #48
I can totally see this. Because outside of DU, the dems I know AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #8
Delicious soma.. frylock Apr 2016 #9
MSNBC is the New Fox News. Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #10
You still have TYT... and Hartmann on Russia Today. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #13
ITS THAT DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ! SHE'S TEH CATS PAJAMAS! Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #11
DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ FOR PRESIDENT 2016! Autumn Apr 2016 #38
Sure, of those remaining in the party. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #12
Because we have stayed off our left wing baggers and won't become what RW has. A comfort in reason. seabeyond Apr 2016 #15
LW baggers opposed to corporate tools? pinebox Apr 2016 #20
Democrats stand for increase in wage, health care and a more reason college plan. seabeyond Apr 2016 #22
You just proved my point. pinebox Apr 2016 #24
No. I did not even come close to proving your point. But with limited thinking and an unwillingness seabeyond Apr 2016 #30
You most certainly did pinebox Apr 2016 #36
No. Using false accusation and attack does not prove shit. seabeyond Apr 2016 #37
Nothing I said is false. Sorry, you proved my point. Deal. pinebox Apr 2016 #41
"LW baggers opposed to corporate tools?" Your made up, black and white, nonthinking seabeyond Apr 2016 #44
None of what you allege is present in the current Democratic National Party platform. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #43
Feminists used to be "left-wing baggers" Prism Apr 2016 #56
"denigrating the people who gave you more equality" Sit down, be quiet, behave? Really? seabeyond Apr 2016 #58
Yes. Lucky you. Prism Apr 2016 #61
You didn't say those thing, Sanders did. seabeyond Apr 2016 #64
Where did Sanders tell women to sit down, be quiet, and behave? Prism Apr 2016 #66
Yes you did. No matter how many times you are told, you will continue to miss it. seabeyond Apr 2016 #67
That's a strong assertion that requires evidence. Prism Apr 2016 #68
I guess . . . what's left of the party. Vinca Apr 2016 #16
Just like good ole Bill changed the way jobless numbers are calculated to fool people, vintx Apr 2016 #17
Is that why Dems are bleeding members? pinebox Apr 2016 #18
well, technically its accurate Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2016 #46
Bingo! Skwmom Apr 2016 #47
As a historical context... Chan790 Apr 2016 #19
Can someone link to the Pew study she's quoting? nt sufrommich Apr 2016 #21
Yesterday, Bernie criticized the party. ecstatic Apr 2016 #25
Failed to win the nomination, so back into his historical habit of attacking the party. onehandle Apr 2016 #26
The GOP started with a clown car and all the clowns was not eliminated. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #28
In her 1% bubble, all is well. SHRED Apr 2016 #29
k&r bigtree Apr 2016 #31
Rachel was great last night Gothmog Apr 2016 #32
It's true it's what the exit polls showed. book_worm Apr 2016 #35
It's possible Renew Deal Apr 2016 #39
Neo-Dems love the party PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #40
as i keep saying, this website is not reflective of the broader coalition that is the democratic La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #42
Of course not. We are informed and active. My friends are perfect examples. They don't know .... snowy owl Apr 2016 #52
Obsessed doesn't necessarily make us better informed La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #55
She must be smoking the good stuff. Nt HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #45
Because she read out the results of a poll? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #65
We shall see how many people will leave the sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #49
yes we will wendylaroux Apr 2016 #51
Not this Dem. or her friends either. Paper Roses Apr 2016 #53
Pew is in the tank for Hillary. Bunch of Oligarches! wyldwolf Apr 2016 #54
you this Pew poll? azurnoir Apr 2016 #57
While I am a happy Democrat, I think this is a little misleading Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 #59
Yes. I'm a HAPPY DEMOCRAT and I'm underthematrix Apr 2016 #60
I wonder what flavor koolaide she's drinking? LaurenG Apr 2016 #69
The Hillary-Haters don't want to hear this ... NurseJackie May 2016 #71

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
27. This is also the byproduct of a contested primary, it gets out the word and energizes the base.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:08 AM
Apr 2016

.


Sure there are tensions between the camps, but most will align before November, if some consessions are made.

Since this is politics, concessions are standard operation and they will occur. That's what the convention is for.


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Stallion

(6,476 posts)
2. According to All Polls According to Pollster
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:38 PM
Apr 2016

Favorability:

Democrats 45.6%-47.3%(-1.7)
Republicans: 31.1%-60.4.% (-29.3%)

Net: Democrats +27.6

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
33. Awesome, Dems are slightly less angry at their party than Pukes!
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:41 AM
Apr 2016

Of course, the poll does not include the droves who have already given up on the party. The party has swerved so hard to the right that it's left millions of people in the cold, nominally "independent" but really "forgotten and ignored."

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
34. "forgotten and ignored."
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:45 AM
Apr 2016

That may be the biggest unofficial party.....and in addition to independents includes many Democrats too.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
50. Funny thing is
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:28 PM
Apr 2016

We only hear that meme that that "droves" have left the party here on DU. Seems more like a right wing taking point to me!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
70. The way I see it, "droves" have been left behind, not the other way around.
Mon May 2, 2016, 09:17 AM
May 2016

The party has evolved into Pub-Lite; it no longer drives the agenda; it merely promotes the same corporate agenda with different social-issue window dressing.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
7. When MA was getting ready to vote, the Secretary of State came out and said
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:57 AM
Apr 2016

20,000 Democrats had left the party this year alone. 17,000 had registered as Independents and 3,000 had registered with the GOP. I don't really believe overall Democrats are happy because too many have left and too many talk about leaving. I think it is because of the Third Way influence, and the conservative element which has seeped in. We need to clean house.

Sam

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
14. Bill Clinton did the same thing with jobless numbers.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:01 AM
Apr 2016

Pathetic that there are so many gullible people willing to lap this spew up.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
48. Well when you have Ms. Clinton Cheerleeder who is arguably the smartest person on tv (per the
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:24 PM
Apr 2016

MSNBC promo/pep talk for their corporate puppet) it must be so.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
8. I can totally see this. Because outside of DU, the dems I know
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:17 AM
Apr 2016

Are not blinded by their own "progressive" ideations like they are here on DU. Sanders supporters are now moving on and working to help the Hillary camp. There's none of this finger pointing and progressive shaming that I see so rampant here on DU.

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
10. MSNBC is the New Fox News.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:21 AM
Apr 2016

She is a part of the MSNBC Clinton Superpac.
I don't trust anything MSNBC reports anymore.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-sturdy-beggars/in-the-strip-clubs-of-joy_b_9748664.html
"As for guests, there’s either Barney Frank or Howard Dean attempting to define quid pro quo on their off nights from the banking and insurance lobby. There’s Joan Walsh, the odds on favorite for Secretary Of Umbrage in a Clinton administration. And there’s the endless cavalcade of shills from Ed Rendell to Jonathan Capehart all eager to explain how Bernie has no path to the nomination while mute on Bill and Hillary’s path to integrity.

But reading an entire library of Noam Chomsky will not prepare you for the abject, point missing idiocy of Joy Reid and the strip club. We have referred to male politicians as “corporate whores” since our first published word. If the Hillary defenders prefer “Goldman Sachs escort” that’s fine by us. And while it might be nice for Miss Reid to at least note the Clintons’ role in the systemic stripping away of social and economic justice as they grabbed millions of dollar bills with four fists, it’s far easier to acknowledge that the only difference between MSNBC and Fox News is hemlines."

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Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
11. ITS THAT DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ! SHE'S TEH CATS PAJAMAS!
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:23 AM
Apr 2016

You know, if the cat's pajamas supported predatory payday lending and voted repeatedly to send sick grannies to prison for eating a pot brownie.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. Because we have stayed off our left wing baggers and won't become what RW has. A comfort in reason.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:04 AM
Apr 2016

It is interesting

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
20. LW baggers opposed to corporate tools?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:22 AM
Apr 2016

Ya, cute, let's fight against a living wage, health care, free education and support fracking and more war!
Notice anything?
The corporate machine is the only one who comes out on top here and YOU support that.

Sorry but you've become what the RW lost, moderates. Richard Lugar et al. There's not much difference between you and the RMC ---Republican Majority for Choice.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
24. You just proved my point.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:37 AM
Apr 2016

GOP once stood for raising the minimum wage. The ACA was a Republican plan. As far as college, reigning in the cost is a GOP point of view https://www.newamerica.org/education-policy/carrots-and-sticks/ from a few years ago.

Yup, there it is folks!

A more "reason" college plan = "NO WE CAN'T!" and screwing kids with debt.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
30. No. I did not even come close to proving your point. But with limited thinking and an unwillingness
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:37 AM
Apr 2016

to do the homework, the little comments you make are just to much work with little to no reward.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
44. "LW baggers opposed to corporate tools?" Your made up, black and white, nonthinking
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:12 PM
Apr 2016

bullshit. Just like with Sanders campaign, isn't it so easy just to label and attack without ANY substance. Childish and bullshit and the adults do NOT have conversation in that manner. It is non productive, hence a waste of time and effort. It solves NOTHING because there is no thinking. just attack, call some names and walk away. No thinking of solutions and doing the homework. Ultra in lazy and you want to be taken seriously?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
43. None of what you allege is present in the current Democratic National Party platform.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

None of what you allege is present in the current Democratic National Party platform. Hence, I'll see it for it is-- a petulant allegation.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
56. Feminists used to be "left-wing baggers"
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:46 PM
Apr 2016

And Civil Rights activists, and LGBT rights activists.

Anyone involved in social justice in history has invariably been referred to as a left-wing threat to the reasonable, pragmatic middle.

Instead of denigrating the people who gave you more equality, maybe stop, reflect, crack open a book, and thank them once in awhile.

It's fine, though. All those "left-wing baggers" are willing to drag your butt on up along with them in pursuit of progress.

When we get there, will you say thank you?

I suspect not. But "left-wing baggers" expect that, too.

And they still fight anyway.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
58. "denigrating the people who gave you more equality" Sit down, be quiet, behave? Really?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:54 PM
Apr 2016

That was so precious they gave me more equality. Gosh, lucky me. Now we are simply the establishment, are being shoved to the side because other things are more important, and being lectured for voting with our vagina.

Ya.... I should just shut up and be quiet while a group, of majority of white men, tell me I have no role becuase their issues are more important.

Right Prism, because you lecturing me on feminism is always so warm and cozy.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
61. Yes. Lucky you.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 06:07 PM
Apr 2016

Lucky everyone, really.

As for the rest of your post. I said none of those things. I mean, I know better with you and your method of debate (open crayon box, select colors at random, fling at wall, and hope a vague picture takes shape).

My response was really for other people.

I remember when you used to berate LGBTers during HoF's wonderful TERF phase.

So you already have a history of being on the wrong side on this stuff. Why stop now?

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
66. Where did Sanders tell women to sit down, be quiet, and behave?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016

I missed this campaign slogan. Granted, I'm not reading the mailers very closely.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
16. I guess . . . what's left of the party.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:06 AM
Apr 2016

I've started ignoring all phone calls, fundraising emails and pitches in the mail (the last one, purportedly from the POTUS, went directly to the shredder). I'm still trying to decide whether to go officially Independent or not. The closed primary thing is a consideration since I know I would never vote for a Republican and do want a say in the Democratic nominee, even though my say doesn't seem to mean much anymore.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
17. Just like good ole Bill changed the way jobless numbers are calculated to fool people,
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:13 AM
Apr 2016

Rachel is reporting on the ever shrinking pool of people willing to identify with this sinking ship of a party as if it doesn't matter.

So what if the number of people identifying as dems is at historic lows!

The 29% still willing to swallow this shit love us!

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
18. Is that why Dems are bleeding members?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:16 AM
Apr 2016

I guess losing members means people are happy with their party? Who knew!

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
46. well, technically its accurate
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:21 PM
Apr 2016

after all, most of those unhappy would have left the party thus leaving a majority of the happy ones

admittedly it totally ignores those who left due to unhappiness but its a easy way to spin it into a positive story

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
19. As a historical context...
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:17 AM
Apr 2016

the highest popularity that Communist party ever had in Soviet Russia was in the late 1940s and early 1950s after Stalin's purges of those insufficiently loyal to him. Was this because the people were happiest then? Was it was because the greatest number of those who were unhappy had "left the building", so to speak--either by their own volition or by the purge?

A majority of Hillary's supporters and those that don't think her presumed nomination is an act worth leaving the party over say this is the happiest they've ever been with the party? I'm going to call that a "No shit, Sherlock?!" statement. It's like polling members of the Romney family on who the best Presidential candidate was in 2012.

Stacked pool yields predictable result.

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
25. Yesterday, Bernie criticized the party.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:02 AM
Apr 2016

Rachel showed the clip of Bernie criticizing the party after the segment you're referring to, but she didn't actually address the contradiction between what democrats feel vs. what Bernie feels. Maybe because Jane was on as a guest.

Anyhow, if Bernie continues to attack the party, more people will have a negative view of the democratic party--just in time for the GE! I really don't understand his strategy, at this point. Or maybe he just hasn't considered how his words might affect the election.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
26. Failed to win the nomination, so back into his historical habit of attacking the party.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:05 AM
Apr 2016

The Kochs are happy, because that tactic will impact down ticket elections.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
28. The GOP started with a clown car and all the clowns was not eliminated.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:09 AM
Apr 2016

Judging by the three million more votes Hillary has gotten it would be a fair assessment to say the Democrats are happier with our Democratic Party.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
52. Of course not. We are informed and active. My friends are perfect examples. They don't know ....
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:37 PM
Apr 2016

Name recognition is mostly what it is about. A woman - 3 friends. He's a little old man - 2 friends. Things were good when Bill was president - most of my friends. They don't really dig and they don't really care as long as there's someone they know and think is ok. I am most political and most informed. Also, these are fairly well-to-do people who really don't have time (they think) to worry about others. Just a fact. And the last thing they want to do is talk politics - mostly the women.

My male friends are more into politics than the women. Even they tend to not delve too deeply into social issues. Economically, they are doing well. They like it.

I'm a teacher. Most of my teacher friends are for Bernie. A few for Clinton and they are all women. Three males at my school are for Bernie. We have very few men at my school.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
55. Obsessed doesn't necessarily make us better informed
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

There are many people here who confuse journalism with blogger opinions and are far less informed than they think they are. Every one has some degree of confirmation bias but especially those who are intransigent about their opinions. Are there some very informed du'ers? Sure. But they are well in the minority.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
49. We shall see how many people will leave the
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:25 PM
Apr 2016

party after the nomination, but I doubt that the
M$M keeps track of it.

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
53. Not this Dem. or her friends either.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:37 PM
Apr 2016

In face everyone I know is disgusted, both R and D. Our process is a sham.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
59. While I am a happy Democrat, I think this is a little misleading
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 06:00 PM
Apr 2016

I suspect (I don't have data to back it up) that Republicans who identify as "Tea Party Conservatives" remain registered Republicans -- and they are, indeed, angry.

However, as anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes in GD: P knows, many of those who self identify as "Progressive" or "Liberal" are not registered Democrats. They are independents who vote for Democratic candidates because they represent the practical alternative to Republicans. This is the voter segment that is most heavily supporting Bernie Sanders, and they are mad as Hell at the Democratic party.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
60. Yes. I'm a HAPPY DEMOCRAT and I'm
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 06:03 PM
Apr 2016

looking for casting my vote for Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris and other DEMS in the CA primary.

LaurenG

(24,841 posts)
69. I wonder what flavor koolaide she's drinking?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:32 PM
Apr 2016

As far as I can tell that statement is a load of crap.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
71. The Hillary-Haters don't want to hear this ...
Mon May 2, 2016, 11:08 AM
May 2016

... it DESTROYS their (lame) argument that Hillary is chasing people away from the party.

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