Hillary Clinton is Pro-War and Pro-Wall Street. Neither of these are Modern Liberal Values.

[reformist2]

People of varying levels of credibility are all trying to convince you otherwise. Just because a person votes against a handful of crazy right-wing Republican bills doesn't make that person a liberal. When it comes to the big votes, she votes with them arm-in-arm. As Hillary herself might say, the things that divide Dems like Hillary from her Republican colleagues are much, much, less than the things that unite them.

[dinkytron]

1. Amen.

[SFnomad]

2. Seriously, you people just can't quit, can you? n/t

[Renew Deal]

3. It hasn't been working

So let them continue

[seekthetruth]

8. Nope.

No quitting here. If Clinton gets into the White House, it's gonna be a loooooooong four years.

We're going to hold her accountable for every misstep, every deed/position/decision/stance/opinion she makes that is not truly progressive. Who gets to decide what's progressive and what's not? Common sense.

Fracking is not progressive.
Unjust war is not progressive.
Focusing more on the needs of the 1% and corporations is not progressive.
Accepting money from corporate donors, lobbyists, and the 1% is not progressive.
.....and on and on.

So, please do be careful for what you wish for, because a lot of people are seriously thinking of jumping off Capt. Debbie's ship.

It's just too damn crooked.

[SFnomad]

10. The longer this goes on, the more you people act and sound like Republicans n/t

[sheshe2]

13. Yup!

[seekthetruth]

15. Huh.

We're standing up for a foreign policy that wants to promote peace and stability. Your candidate has a history of starting wars.

Plus, all of the environmental standings your candidate takes on which promotes more fossil fuel extraction.

Ever heard of neoliberalism? You should check it out, and which side your candidate is on.

I really do feel like it's becoming the twilight zone.....

[2banon]

18. The source of that sound is coming from your corner.

That's the problem. the blinders and ear plugs seems to be making Hillary supporters a bit disoriented and confused.

[grasswire]

26. nobody believes that

nobody

[leftofcool]

9. No, but they must get their licks in now before they are tossed.

[SFnomad]

11. I suppose that means it will get worse before it gets better n/t

[Armstead]

19. Won't get tossed -- will just have to be quiet about the election

[Happyhippychick]

4. She's got cooties too.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

7. not very many of them though LOL!

[Buzz Clik]

5. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

[Thinkingabout]

6. Pro gun isn't liberal for sure, since Sanders has voted for military action more

Than Hillary it would make Sanders more pro war. On Wall Street, Sanders voted for the CFMA which payed a heavy part in the finanical crisis. All things similar I have to go with the most qualified candidate running, Hillary Clinton.

[seekthetruth]

12. And I have to go with a progressive.

Sanders.

No thirst for war, no global evangelizing of fracking, no lobbyist or corporate campaign contributions.

But, sadly, the media has done their part. And voters, who I disagree with, see the shiny altar of the first female president.

But, please, I hope you guys have your candidate. Just don't expect us progressives to not call bull when we see it.

[Thinkingabout]

14. You must not listen to Sanders saying he will take military action and use drones.

[seekthetruth]

17. And you must not listen when Hillary talks of regime change, and no fly zones....

You're calling Sanders a hawk. Good grief friend.

[Thinkingabout]

23. Again you bring up another point, Sanders has been right there on regime changes.

Look at Sanders record, the information is in the record.

[seekthetruth]

27. To support democryin Libya? Of course. But not regime change.

[brooklynite]

21. How long will you give Sanders to withdraw all troops from the Middle East (and Afghanistan)...

...before HE becomes a warmonger?

[Thinkingabout]

25. He voted for the expansion, guess this makes him a warmonger or hawk which ever fits the moment.

[Cheese Sandwich]

16. I think those are totally liberal values. That's what a liberal is.

People use words differently I guess.

[The Second Stone]

20. Varying levels of credibility. Yes, that does describe the charges leveled here

and I think it is shameful. Unhinged and shameful.

[reddread]

22. Pro Wal Mart too!

[Thinkingabout]

24. So far Pro Lockheed Martin has cost tax payers over a trillion dollars on one failed project.

[silvershadow]

28. Well we aren't a Modern Liberal nation. We are a neoliberal neoconservative turned neofascist

nation and none other than President Carter said without equivocation that we are no longer a democracy, so there's that. Apparently we are about to double-down.