No transcripts = No vote.

[Barack_America]

I at least deserve to know what I'm being asked to vote for.

Hillary's position on foreign policy is pretty clear. I don't agree with it, but I know what I'm getting.

Same with Hillary's positions on women's and LGBT rights. There, I mostly DO agree, aside from some concerning comments regarding late term abortion.

But economic policy, climate change, healthcare, etc. I have NO clue what I'm truly being asked to support. Oh sure, I know what I'm being promised, but I won't fall for that again (as evidenced by the screenname I adopted in 2008, which I've come to consider as a proud political scar)

I want to know who and what I'm truly voting for.

No transcripts = no vote.

Please tell me why that is not a fair request.

[onecaliberal]

1. Of course it's fair. If she has nothing to hide she would have released them when asked.

[Duckhunter935]

2. Very fair request, I feel the same way

[reformist2]

3. You don't like her coy little answer, I'll show you mine if you show me yours?

[senz]

56. Makes it obvious how little she respect she has for the American people.

[leftofcool]

4. Go vote for Trump then.

Has any male candidate for president ever been asked to give transcripts of speeches make as private citizens? No? I didn't think so. Like I said, go vote for Trump.

[Barack_America]

6. Ha! Of course, Trump is the natural choice for progressives.

[dionysus]

13. the funny thing here is, yours is the exact same type of post hillary supporters in 2008 got so

upset about when it was being said to them by victorious Obama supporters.

now that she is victorious this time, there's no problem saying it to others.

when told to "go vote for Romney if you don't like it" in 2008, they went apeshit with indignation...

[JaneyVee]

15. Romney wasnt running in 2008.

[northernsouthern]

52. A HRC follower says what?

Oh that is right, a ton of racist stuff.

[leftofcool]

17. Romney?

[byyiminy]

64. I *STILL* remember the binkies you used to hand out.

I may be new, but I'm a veteran of the DU wars from even years starting from 02 till present.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

21. Rumor has it that some idiots kept asking a great president for his birth certificate

[frylock]

44. Remember when Obama said he was going to regulate his birth?

Nah, me neither.

[Silver_Witch]

26. I think many of us...

..never thought of speeches containing truth that we should know until Romney and his little speech to rich people about us scummy poor folks. So then we realized that people like Romney, Clinton and others who get paid to speak might be saying things we need to know.....

And then Hillary proved it was true by playing sound blocking machines at a speech she gave so reporters couldn't hear...makes most folks think she might be saying something she didn't want us all to hear.

At least I think that is what is going on.

[JaneyVee]

5. No one cares who you vote for.

[Barack_America]

7. And the same for you.

Hurray for democracy.

[JaneyVee]

14. Seriously, dont worry. You just stay home and relax.

[Barack_America]

28. Can you write my boss a note?

A Tuesday off sounds amazing.

A whole day with no work and the kids in school...shopping, maybe a new haircut...sounds divine.

[northernsouthern]

53. Ignore their posts...

They are trying to compartmentalize the fact they are supporting Hillary following in the steps of Obama, the person that beat them last time despite her attempts to hit him with racist smears. It leaves people a bit confused.

[snooper2]

63. Damn you are a pro with only 6 hidden posts!

Member since: Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:45 PM
Number of posts: 1,216
Number of posts, last 90 days: 1216

[senz]

57. Perhaps millions will decide to stay home and relax

and you can watch it sink down, down, down.

[lumberjack_jeff]

41. ... And this is why we run the house and senate.

The party is your exclusive club.

[alcibiades_mystery]

43. Seriously

What fucking arrogance.

Didn't this guy decide to leave the board after the ass-drubbings Bernie received in Florida and Ohio?

Now back with more whining and demands.

Jay-sus it never ends from these people.

[frylock]

45. Thus all the loyalty oaths and vote shaming.

[Dem2]

8. lol

I've always enjoyed these pass/fail internet tests.

You have great power.

Or, you have just one vote, same as I do.

I dunno.

[Barack_America]

16. I don't have great power. I have a vote.

And this simple request is what I am asking for my support.

Aren't you curious too, or is your faith that blind?

[Dem2]

19. I don't need the approval of other people to help me decide

I have a great deal of confidence in my choice of who to vote for. I've never mentioned it here and I'll never use my vote as a bargaining chip. I don't need to make the candidate jump through a particular hoop to judge their character.

[Merryland]

9. I like that slogan "no transcripts, no votes"

It could be one thing that shakes the damned fawning transcripts out of her closet.

[Trust Buster]

10. Sanders won't release his tax returns. Neither will Trump. I guess you're out of luck.

[Barack_America]

20. Hasn't Sanders said he'd release them if she released the transcripts?

If she's not living up to the standard for transparency, why should he?

But this is not about my vote for Bernie, he already got that. This is about my (potential) vote for Clinton.

[Hekate]

50. That's not the way the tax returns thing works. Candidates release their tax returns, not speeches.

Tax. Returns. But hey, if you like Jane being all coy about it, fine.

Just don't go writing a whole new set of rules that apply to only one candidate, and that candidate being on our side and not a Republican. Somehow it seems -- icky. Even hypocritical.

[Tarc]

11. Lol, transcripts

The deadest of dead issues.

[Bleacher Creature]

12. Shouldn't you be busy cheering on the indictment fairy??

[Barack_America]

18. I place a small offering at my shrine each night.

[frylock]

46. All in due course.

[madamesilverspurs]

22. False metric.

What would actually be “fair” would be to impose on every candidate, not just one, some standard that has never been demanded of any other candidate.

[Barack_America]

23. I demanded the same of Bernie. He released his transcripts.

I don't demand the same of Republicans, because I will never consider voting for them.

[madamesilverspurs]

25. Another false metric.

The standard has to be something different that has never been required of any other candidate. Clearly, (1) transcripts of paid speeches had already been demanded of Clinton, so another entirely different standard must be met; not to mention that (2) it was already understood that Sanders has essentially no record of paid speeches because the office he has held for decades prohibits paid speeches.

[Barack_America]

29. She's the first former First Lady to be nominated....

So yeah, new standards.

Or is she willing to reap all of the benefits of that status, including the massive payday, with none of the responsibilities?

[madamesilverspurs]

31. Totally irrelevant evasion.

And you know it.

[Barack_America]

36. No, I truly don't. The American people deserve to know what she said in those...

...speeches. She has referenced them, her opponents have referenced them, there are purported leaks out there that contradict her claims.

No one at this point would be incorrect to ask for the truth. That is what I'm asking for.

Have you no faith in your candidate? If her recollection is accurate, then what do have to fear?

[msongs]

24. because they are irrelevant. if she had said anything naughty those blabber mouths would all be

plastering it all over the place by now

[Logical]

33. Clueless? They will wait to the GE! Nt

[KittyWampus]

37. Funny how the fact Sanders never held a steady job until he was in his 40's

never gets mentioned. Yeah, they'd have waited until the GE.

Or the fact he ran as an adult several times on the platform of seizing Rockefeller property....

So many things that have never been loudly and repeatedly mentioned in the mass media about Sanders...

[Logical]

38. Sanders ineffective is better that any plans hill has. Dangerous. Nt

[frylock]

48. Whargle bargle red herring!!2!

[oldandhappy]

27. good luck, giggle

no fracking, no war, no walls
tax reform, immigration reform
women in charge of women's health
money out of politics
student debt reform
affordable housing
$15/hour minimum wage
stop policing the world
no GMOs
clean water
break up the banks

I have fantasies.

Yes we deserve to know what a vote means. Just not going to happen with clinton. Maybe not with anyone.

[mushroomhunter]

30. I'd like to know what she said in those speeches

She's had my vote before - she might get it again. What did she have to say to the big muckledeemucks that she can't share with the rest of us? God knows I could use some investment advice - but wait...I don't have enough left over to invest. Never mind.

[HassleCat]

32. I'll vote for her.

Or maybe I won't. My vote is mine, and it's about all I have, and I don't have to justify my vote to anyone.

[Logical]

34. Lol, then why say anything? Weird. Nt

[HassleCat]

58. Perhaps I should be clear.

I will vote for anyone I want, for any reason I want. I happen to think my reasons are very good, and based on actual information. But we have millions of voters who cast their ballots because someone is "nice" or even on less than that. I don't think it's right to set up single issue litmus tests such as the transcripts. It cuts both ways. If I set such a condition, and she doesn't reveal what she said, I don't check her box. On the other hand, if she coughs up the transcripts, I am obligated to vote for her, right? Because she met my demands? I'm not comfortable with that.

[AuntPatsy]

35. Your angry, you have every right to be, but don't let that anger fester into a wound that

limits you to act usefully, use it to push against that seemingly impregnable invisible wall that separates us from those that wish to reign supreme....

And also from those who blindly believe themselves to be seated safely behind that wall with those now holding all the Aces when the fact is the deck was stacked long ago and thier seemingly safe houses are nothing more than an illusion,

When they get over blaming the wrong people for thier woes as they have for years, they will have no choice but to stand beside and fight with those who they once considered unacceptable to thier lifestyles and ideologies, because in reality they are or will be standing right next to you, survival will demand it..

The world is changing, we cannot stop it, nor can they in truth stop the revolution that must come...


..

[BreakfastClub]

39. You're going to be awfully disappointed if/when you get to read those

juicy transcripts. There is simply no "there" there. Many people who were at these talks have said over and over that Hillary said nothing controversial.

This is rope-a-dope 101. She will eventually release them, and the ones screaming TRANSCRIPTS will look like idiots. Don't be one of the dopes caught up in that. How embarrassing that would be for you.

[Barack_America]

40. I hope I am. But I would like to know what this "managing director"...

...of Goldman Sachs bit is about.

[frylock]

49. That's not happening.

The transcripts are a thorn in her side. You can see that every time they are brought up. Val isn't a good enough actor to pull off what you're suggesting.

[lumberjack_jeff]

42. It really doesn't matter

Ted Cruz' wife has them on audio, and the Trump campaign can afford to buy 'em.

[Betty Karlson]

47. K&R - but how about no transcript, no nomination?

[KPN]

51. I like it!!!

Bernie or Bust! No Transcripts, No Vote!

[northernsouthern]

54. I am already sure I am not voting for her.

There is no chance she releases anything. Plus all polls shows she is about to start losing to Trump, so you may just be throwing away your vote if you do vote for her and not a democrat.

[Firebrand Gary]

55. No one cares how you vote anymore.

Childish banter and idle treats of withholding your vote have no more power, we've heard it before.

[BernieforPres2016]

59. What if her comments in the speeches are fairly innocuous and don't address those issues?

I consider the speeches legalized bribery regardless of what she said. Nobody but the hopelessly naive believe all those companies paid her those kind of fees without expecting anything in return.

[NCTraveler]

60. I think that is fair enough. If it isn't cleared up in the next year, she won't get your vote.

You mention multiple issues and bring up serious concerns. Seems to be not a one and done thing. More like the straw that will break the camels back for you. No issue and I hope she gives up what you are requesting. As for the primaries, withholding them has been an excellent campaign tactic.

[thesquanderer]

61. Are you talking about whether you'll vote for her in the primary? Or in the general? (n/t)

[Orsino]

62. Perfectly fair.

Your vote is your own. Bestow it wisely.

[oasis]

65. No mystery in the setback 3 GOP additions to SCOTUS will bring.

But go ahead and stick to your principles.

[LexVegas]

66. You must really regret your choice of username.

[Adrahil]

67. You've already said you wouldn't vote for her, didn't you?

So what's the point of this post?