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brooklynite

(94,592 posts)
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:39 AM Apr 2016

Chuck Todd (on MJ): "Sanders is starting to sound like a bitter guy..."

"I can't win the Democratic Party nomination, so let me tell everything that's wrong with the Democratic Party".

Says Clinton has moved on to the Convention and the General Election.

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Chuck Todd (on MJ): "Sanders is starting to sound like a bitter guy..." (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2016 OP
Ha! :-D ... and ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #1
Oooh... Chuck Todd is our friend now? Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #2
Please spell his name correctly. Funtatlaguy Apr 2016 #3
That's how we used to spell it. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #9
Well people here are posting what Rove, Trump and other RWers say as gospel..... bettyellen May 2016 #47
Chuckie has been saying this for months. Bohunk68 Apr 2016 #4
Chuckie sounds like a one trick toady. dchill Apr 2016 #29
Best line of the morning...and, he said it more than once. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #5
I heard that discussion -- Fuck Chuck Armstead Apr 2016 #6
He's a bit of a scold and it's a long way to June 7 BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #7
Your faux concern is noted and will be ignored HERVEPA Apr 2016 #27
No surprise there...Donald Trump says thanks for the soundbites BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #32
There are always sound bites from a primary. Think there might be some from Republicans about Trump? HERVEPA Apr 2016 #36
The question is what's to be gained chez Bernie by continuing to target HRC BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #39
He's right. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #8
yes, fairly far right. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #28
Once again...call Hill bitter and oh my...the end of the word. Sexist term! peace13 Apr 2016 #10
Starting? Where's he been? n/t livetohike Apr 2016 #11
How tf is he supposed to feel, elated? eShirl Apr 2016 #12
Right...and? Chan790 Apr 2016 #13
I don't care for Chuck Todd either Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #14
"He needs to concede."?? Nuh-uh ---> Petrushka Apr 2016 #15
I have seen this before and it is not true...all over this forum yesterday Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #16
It isn't over until it's over. Petrushka Apr 2016 #19
It will be over before the convention Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #40
Sanders' opening gambit, "your party sucks", doomed him before he started. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #17
Your party DOES suck. dchill Apr 2016 #30
sanctimonious much? uponit7771 Apr 2016 #37
Not my intent. dchill Apr 2016 #38
My party is just fine Blue_Adept May 2016 #44
Sanders was in Oregon asuhornets Apr 2016 #18
Bitter and cynical. nt sufrommich Apr 2016 #20
IMO, Bernie has a problem with OCD and a 1960's hatred of banks. CK_John Apr 2016 #21
Someone please tell Chuckie about the class war. Orsino Apr 2016 #22
Chuck Todd still sounds like the billionaire's greasy shill that he is. Octafish Apr 2016 #23
Those media millionaires really do live in a bubble. Overseas May 2016 #41
greasy? are you serious with that slur? bettyellen May 2016 #48
I'm always waiting for him to pull out his agonizer and use it on the guests Fumesucker Apr 2016 #24
Twenty years of truth about Third Way is bitterness?? tokenlib Apr 2016 #25
Fuck the Toad. Autumn Apr 2016 #26
not bitter at all. just amazed/upset wendylaroux Apr 2016 #31
Thanks for the post, Todd is seeing the same think many others are seeing, the proof is in the Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #33
Starting? Please lunamagica Apr 2016 #34
Yeap, we noticed that 2 weeks ago... HDS is getting the better of them uponit7771 Apr 2016 #35
K&R. Chuckie is probably bitter that so many of us dislike ChuckTodd. Overseas May 2016 #42
It never was, Bernie. :( Oneironaut May 2016 #43
Bernie been a bitter guy his entire adult life....ranting and raving... beachbumbob May 2016 #45
Chuck Todd quotes now...lol...thanks needed a laugh today. EndElectoral May 2016 #46
That's nothing new KingFlorez May 2016 #49
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
47. Well people here are posting what Rove, Trump and other RWers say as gospel.....
Sun May 1, 2016, 02:45 PM
May 2016

because it favors SBS. GDP has not been picky about sourcing for months.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
5. Best line of the morning...and, he said it more than once.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:46 AM
Apr 2016

Willy (Butt-Kiss) Geiss tried to deflect Toad's criticism, but he just doubled down..

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
6. I heard that discussion -- Fuck Chuck
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:48 AM
Apr 2016

The media is carrying water. They're shallow morons.

Bernie is making an honest point. It's not about him. He is seriously trying to get the Democratic Party to address its problems.

But anything outside of the narrow DC/NY Corporate Media Political frame is dismissed as bitter.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
7. He's a bit of a scold and it's a long way to June 7
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:48 AM
Apr 2016

Maybe pivot and spend more time ripping Republicans. He's very good at that. If he stays in this mode for five more weeks he'll hurt himself.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
36. There are always sound bites from a primary. Think there might be some from Republicans about Trump?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:17 PM
Apr 2016

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
39. The question is what's to be gained chez Bernie by continuing to target HRC
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:24 PM
Apr 2016

The downside for him is pretty obvious.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
10. Once again...call Hill bitter and oh my...the end of the word. Sexist term!
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:51 AM
Apr 2016

Chuck's bitter that he missed his bubble bath, working late because Bernie just won't give up! Sorry Chuck .......

eShirl

(18,494 posts)
12. How tf is he supposed to feel, elated?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:56 AM
Apr 2016

I look forward to his examination of Mrs. Clinton's feelings during the general.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
13. Right...and?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:08 AM
Apr 2016

Let me be blunt...Chuck Todd is pretty much as credible as a political reporter as he was as NBC's in-house statistics magician when he claimed that McCain/Obama 2008 was going to be closer than the polling suggested (It wasn't. It was a blowout.) and attempted to pooh-pooh Nate Silver for believing in statistical modeling. (At this point, I think we can all agree on which one of them is credible and which is a hack pretending to know what they're talking about.)

I'm not actually sure how Chuck Todd became their political director and subsequently was tabbed to host MtP...he's about as astute of a political commentator and analyst as Bill "faulty predictor" Kristol; he doesn't even have the charisma that Tim Russert brought to that job; and in terms of simple fact-gathering...he's a poor journalist who has said more than once that his job isn't to get the facts right or call people on their lies.

I don't find that jackass credible now and I wouldn't find him credible if he were saying the same thing about Hillary instead.

Chuck Todd is to political journalism what TMZ is to current events: tabloid journalism that yearns for credibility.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
14. I don't care for Chuck Todd either
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:11 AM
Apr 2016

However, someone posted the last speech he gave. And it is bitter. Also, he attacks the Democratic Party as well as Hillary. Honestly, he needs to concede. He has no path and is actively hurting the general. If he continues, he won't even go to the convention.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
16. I have seen this before and it is not true...all over this forum yesterday
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:52 AM
Apr 2016

Many of you think that there is a magic number that must be attained in pledged delegates before the first ballot. We are not Republicans. It simply is not true. Hillary is ahead and will have bigger numbers in June after the last votes. Bernie will be behind in pledged delegates. The supers always vote for the candidate with the most delegates...rare exceptions. They will flock to her, putting her over the top (it should be noted the supers put Obama over the top in 08) and she is the nominee on the first ballot. He has no path of any sort. He lost the primary. I know it hurts. I been on the losing side before. Not in 08, as I was an Obama supporter. But I really liked Howard Dean and still think he would have beat Bush...but he lost the primary, and Bernie has too. Now if Bernie wants to have a say in anything, he needs to stop criticising the Democratic Party and Hillary. Also, it is time to concede and endorse Hillary. We need all hands on deck for the General.

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
19. It isn't over until it's over.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:27 AM
Apr 2016

"..it is time to concede and endorse Hillary."?? A bit premature, don't you think?

Shucks! My people back home in West Virginia, and people from a few other States,
haven't yet voted. Would you deny those U.S. citizens their voting rights? Would
Hillary? Concede, indeed!

Hillary needs deck hands for the General, did you say? If that's true, you might think
about politely asking for help . . . after the convention, if necessary.

Capische?

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
40. It will be over before the convention
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:40 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders concedes after California unless he wants to lost all influence in the Senate.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
44. My party is just fine
Sun May 1, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

At least within the area I can influence.

Hence electing Kennedy for many years.

Keeping Kerry in office for quite a long time as well.

Bringing in Warren and Markey.

A slew of strong house reps as well.

But please, keep telling me my party sucks.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
18. Sanders was in Oregon
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:10 AM
Apr 2016

talking bad about Democrats, when he should have been talking bad about Republicans.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
22. Someone please tell Chuckie about the class war.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016

Use little words and make it interesting, or he'll get bored and wander off to his next cocktail party.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
23. Chuck Todd still sounds like the billionaire's greasy shill that he is.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:19 PM
Apr 2016
Media Millionaires

Journalism by and for the 0.01 Percent


By Peter Hart
FAIR, July 1, 2013

Mainstream journalism is, we’re often told, in a state of severe crisis. Newsroom employment began to decline as a result of corporate takeovers in the 1990s. Then the digital revolution destroyed the advertising market, plunging the industry into serious doubt about its very business model.

But times aren’t rough all around. There are many pundits and TV anchors who are doing very well in the media world, racking up millions of dollars from their media contracts, book deals and lucrative speaking fees. Though they don’t generally approach the compensation packages awarded to network morning show hosts like Matt Lauer or evening anchors like Diane Sawyer, they’re not exactly hurting.

Of course, being the boss means the biggest payday—and media company CEOs have been posting unbelievable incomes. In 2012, CBS head Les Moonves made $62 million, Disney’s Robert Iger made $37 million and Rupert Murdoch of Fox took home a comparatively modest $22 million (New York Times, 5/5/13). Don’t feel sorry for Murdoch, though; as No. 91 on Forbes’ list of the world’s richest people, with an estimated net worth of $11.2 billion, he’s unlikely to go to bed hungry.

The media business outstrips other industries in generously compensating its top executives (New York Times, 5/5/13), and those resources could of course be put to better use by hiring reporters. But that’s not the way the system works. And it’s not just the bosses getting rich. Indeed, many high-profile members of the media elite live a rather charmed life. The journalism business looks to be in a disastrous state—but the view from the top is just fine.

Thomas Friedman

New York Times foreign affairs columnist Tom Friedman has written a number of bestsellers, and regularly holds forth on outlets like public TV’s Charlie Rose show. All of the globe-trotting and yearning for a “radical centrism” in American politics—where sensible climate policies could be paired with cuts to social spending—have paid off handsomely.

CONTINUED...

http://fair.org/slider/cover-story-media-millionaires/

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
24. I'm always waiting for him to pull out his agonizer and use it on the guests
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:28 PM
Apr 2016

It would be a definite improvement...





wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
31. not bitter at all. just amazed/upset
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:01 PM
Apr 2016

at all the dumb asses or don't give a fucks about anyone else, that have voted for more of the same,

of the last 40 years.ya know "rich getting fucking richer,/middle class going to poverty level/the poor killing themselves"

Oh why would Bernie be upset?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
33. Thanks for the post, Todd is seeing the same think many others are seeing, the proof is in the
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:05 PM
Apr 2016

numbers, 3 million more votes, more delegates and close to the required delegate count. Bernie appears tired, angry and deflated, too many wants to continue to push him and even Sanders see the truth.

Oneironaut

(5,504 posts)
43. It never was, Bernie. :(
Sun May 1, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

He put up a massive and impressive fight (bigger than I thought possible against Clinton) but it's time to call it a day and go home. He has virtually no chance at this point.

It's time to start supporting our inevitable nominee, Clinton. Any effort by Bernie would be wasted at this point. If Clinton were smart, she would give Bernie a job in her administration - he's already shown how resourceful he is.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
45. Bernie been a bitter guy his entire adult life....ranting and raving...
Sun May 1, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

Alienating his fellow congress people and senators....

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