So is the Sanders campaign still trying to flip superdelegates?

[sufrommich]

Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said Tuesday night that even if, at the end of all the primaries, Hillary Clinton has won the delegates she needs for the nomination and still leads the popular vote, the Vermont Senator's team will spend the months ahead of the Democratic National Convention working to flip her superdelegates to Sanders' team.

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Just wondering.

[CoffeeCat]

1. Same way that the 08 primary played out

I don't get what the big deal is.

Neither Sanders or Clinton will have have amassed the 2383 number in pledged delegates before the convention.

At the convention, it's likely that the Superdelegates will kick Clinton to that magic number.

However, in the meantime, Sanders and and Clinton will lobby the Superdelegates.

It's called politics. It's not like we're engaging on voo doo here.

[all american girl]

7. The problem is that Hillary had the popular vote and was way closer in the delegate count.

Now mind you, I realize about the popular vote, and there was some weirdness that year, but she could make a proper argument...what argument could he possibly make?

[CoffeeCat]

10. I think it's important that he stay in until the convention

because he brings with him all of the delegates that he has earned along the way. I think it's about helping to shape the platform and crossing the finish line--and also to maintain leverage with final negotiations as the primary race ends.

Once we're there, he could make the argument one last time--then the Superdelegates vote, and the chips fall where they may.

A great deal can happen between now and the convention. Of course, he is far behind in pledged delegates and is very unlikely to catch up. However, we started out at 4 percent. We've amassed a large number of delegates, votes and we've won 17 states. That's something, right?

There will be major negotiations regarding endorsements, unifying and how the GE will play out. Don't you think that it's optimal for the Democratic party that both sides are involved in those end-game negotiations?

[all american girl]

13. Oh, I'm not saying for him to get out.

And I agree, make the last argument, that's how it's done, if need be. I'm just afraid that with the chest thumping that he can change the delegates, and they don't, that Bernie supporters will feel that it was stolen from them....when it wasn't. I'm not saying all, mind you, but some. I think he should keep pushing and trying, but I really don't want ugliness, I happen to be that type of person...I do want change in our party, I like the idea...I'm for it. I just don't want to blow the hole house up for the sake of change....

[CoffeeCat]

16. I really don't think that this will happen

and I understand your concerns. This has been a really contentious race.

I think this will go to convention. Most likely, Bernie will make his case to the Superdelegates--and they'll go for Clinton and she'll win.

I think Sanders knows this and I think all of Sanders support this as well. We all think that Superdelegates suck, but we all understand that this is how the system operates. I don't think there will be one surprised Sanders supporter--when the Superdelegates bring HRC across the finish line.

I think it's very important to Bernie and his supporters that they stay in throughout the convention. A great deal of wrangling, endorsements and negotiations happen at the Convention. We've earned the right to stay in. We want to help shape the platform and see this through to the finish line.

[all american girl]

21. I'm so right there with you on the SD

I didn't even know there was such a thing until 2008...After the convention, I want us to have a great big hug...yeah, I'm one of those people

Have a great day Coffee Cat... my day is heading to happy hour and I think I might have a nice cold Stella Artois

[sufrommich]

8. Hilarious. Sanders is an above- it -all man of the people

until the votes of the people stop going his way,then it's politics as usual. In 2008 Obama and Hillary were much closer in both popular votes and delegates. The big deal is that the Sanders campaign is talking out of both sides of their collective mouth,on the one hand demonizing superdelegates as undemocratic and on the other trying to get superdelegates regardless of whether they get the popular vote or not.

[CoffeeCat]

12. The magic number is 2383 in pledged delegates

If Hillary had run a robust enough campaign to earn that 2383--Sanders would be home in Vermont right now, eating pancakes.

It's like---you know the rules, but you just don't care.

It doesn't matter who has what. Or what happened in 2008. Or what the popular vote is.

The rules are that the candidate who has 2383 in pledged delegates...WINS. Neither candidate will have earned that before the convention.

So, let's all go to the convention and conclude this. Let's let the Superdelegates vote. If Clinton wins, she wins.

[all american girl]

15. mmmmm pancakes...Sorry Coffee Cat, got sidetracked there

[CoffeeCat]

18. I know...

...and with real Vermont maple syrup.

[all american girl]

19. I'm not a big fan of syrup...I know, that make me weird

some jam and I'm all over it

[Mike Nelson]

2. We will probably see...

...more flip from Bernie to Hillary.

[all american girl]

4. I don't understand this play.

Maybe it's just to keep the supporters excited, but I think that all the people who voted for Hillary, putting her in the lead, were disenfranchised, there will be hell paid...and Bernie and his supporters won't like it.

[liberalnarb]

5. Yes.

No one has hit the magic number yet.

[SidDithers]

6. And be sure to send another $27, added Weaver...nt

Sid

[Orsino]

9. I'm sure both campaigns are.

Just greater urgency on one side.

[MineralMan]

11. Next step, horses' heads in superdelegates' beds?

Not officially, of course, but you know, supporters just doing their own thing.

We already have one superdelegate who got a threat about someone cutting out his tongue. What's the next step?

[CoffeeCat]

14. Yes, and of course that was very extreme and no Bernie supporter that I know

thinks that threatening a Superdelegate is appropriate.

Stop being so dramatic. It's not like Sanders has some evil plot to mind trick the Superdelegates.

He's earned the right to stay in. He's run a very competitive race and has denied Clinton the ability to secure that 2383 magic number before the convention.

I don't get why this is so difficult to understand.

[brooklynite]

17. Just like, no Republican politician supports bombing a Planned Parenthood clinic?

[CoffeeCat]

20. I don't think it's like that at all (nt)