Hillary supporters, when they say she's stealing it, they're saying you don't exist

[CreekDog]

Last edited Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:30 AM - Edit history (1)

The people that are saying that all the elections she's won or may win are rigged or stolen comes down to one thing...they don't think we exist in any sort of substantial numbers.

Whether we answer opinion polls, express support, go and vote in caucuses or primaries, it's just impossible for some to believe that there are that many of us, certainly not enough to win every election they say was fraudulently won.

So basically, we're ghosts, we're not real people, we're not real Democrats, we don't actually exist because when we actually show our numbers by voting, we are treated as phantoms.

(note: only *some* people are saying that she is stealing the elections, this is aimed at them, not all supporters of other candidates)

[Agschmid]

1. I'm quite real... Just checked.

[puffy socks]

2. Its just wishful thinking on their part. nt

[astrophuss42]

3. Bit of a stretch

There are clear irregularities in the polls this year. Considering the vitriol on both sides, I think it may be more productive to reframe this issue. Look at it this way, all of your votes are incredibly valuable compared to ours!

[Trust Buster]

4. That's what they're also saying when they rig the jury system to hide our posts. We don't exist.

[CentralCoaster]

5. No, I think we're saying no such thing about her supporters. That idea is absurd.

Clearly she has ardent supporters, good Democrats.

That doesn't change our opinion of the tactics of certain elements and members of her campaign.

Wicked blend of logical fallacies you have there, Sir.

Take a breath.

[JudyM]

9. Yep. Pure reductivist silliness... amping up the petty vitriol. (Yawn)

[TDale313]

6. No. We're saying there were clear problems this cycle.

Voting irregularities and deviations from exit polls that don't fall within normal margins of error. And clear examples of voter suppression. And yes, many of us believe the nominating process has been rigged in her favor.

For the record, she has a huge number of supporters and I suspect many of the issues we're bringing up would not have changed the outcome. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be fighting for a fairer process and to make every vote count.

This should be an issue regardless of who you support- these problems will be worse in November. The fact that so many Hillary supporters are just shrugging or angry we're bringing it up baffles me.

[CreekDog]

7. some of you are saying that, but a number of people are questioning every single Hillary win

they literally cannot believe there are more people voting in those contests for her than for him.

that is what i'm referring to.

not the "we fought the good fight" folks.

[B Calm]

8. Before the first vote was cast in Iowa, Hillary had a 500 super delegate lead.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3295202/No-wonder-Hillary-thinks-inevitable-votes-500-Democratic-establishment-superdelegates-locked-up.html

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Look there are clear problems

Make what you will but they started to be obvious in 2000. And at this point international observers find US elections well, corrupt. I realize you give two shits about it. In the meantime I will continue to pretend to vote and know my vote does not matter

[CreekDog]

11. I don't disagree that there have been election problems, absolutely

I'm asking you to tell me which of the primary or caucus contests were not legitimate.

Which one was so corrupted that the result should be thrown out?

And which contest that Bernie won was so corrupted that the result should be thrown out?

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. AZ is going to the courts

New York might

Chicago BoE has issues. We have seen systemic caging. It is the software partly. Somebody or somebody's are hacking multiple systems. Who they are tied to is a question. This is a dress rehearsal for November. I have been pretendedinf to vote for some years now. The issues are getting worst. Elections at points like this lose legitimacy. Guess what is the next step when elections become illegitimate in the eyes of the populous?

Go on and whistle

[Avalux]

12. Don't take it personally. There are definitely abnormalities that cannot be explained.

If Hillary was a Republican candidate, you'd be looking into the possibility of shenanigans too, wouldn't you?

[CreekDog]

14. being alert is different than dismissing every victory

because it didn't go one's way.

[JaneyVee]

13. They thought the online polls were real.