Some say that the Democratic Party is not good for anything. This is wrong.

[rhett o rick]

The grassroots of the party still fight for Democratic Principles. It's the DINO's that run the Party that are causing the harm.

So this article is wrong.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/29/what-is-the-democratic-party-good-for-absolutely-nothing/

The Party has to throw out the corrupt leadership that has sold their souls for Gold (man-Sachs)

[VulgarPoet]

1. That'll never happen. Their only use is as an object lesson.

"See this? This is what happens when you introduce a political party to corporate lobbyists!"

[msongs]

2. it's good for bernie - he's raking in millions he could never get as an independent and to

his credit he acknowledges that is the reason he is running as a "democrat" after 73 of not wanting to be one

[rhett o rick]

3. Interesting how you can see corruption in others because you are used to it with your

candidate. You expect Sanders to be as corrupt. Clinton has taken cash, millions and millions, directly from people that want favors.

[nolawarlock]

10. I don't think he's corrupt.

I think he's a hypocrite.

[Downwinder]

15. The only advantage of the Democratic Party

is getting on the ballot. The two major parties have tried to block Independents and third parties from the ballot.

[BootinUp]

4. The truth is, there is no black and white truth when it comes to politics

and labeling certain folks (most all elected democrats as I understand you) DINOS is a sad attempt to make sense of the situation.

[VulgarPoet]

7. If they support perpetual war, poisioning the earth with the runoff of fracking,

clusterbombing the shit out of countries we shouldn't even be in, et cetera, then pray tell-- what are they?

[BootinUp]

12. I am not sure what your use of the word support even means.

I assume you would accept Bernie Sanders as the current leader of the progressive movement. What does Bernie mean by saying Hillary is 100 times better than the other party?

Its greater than better
Greater than twice as good
Greater than 10 times as good

Need any more be said? There are a limited number of reasons for people to take the Bernie or Bust position. Not a single one of them makes any logical sense from the standpoint of moving towards any of Bernie's defined goals.

[NCTraveler]

5. The leader of the party has a message for you.

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[rhett o rick]

6. He is mocking us because we want single payer. He is saying, "No way, the insurance companies

need love too."

[NCTraveler]

13. Yes, he has spent his whole life mocking people. You are onto him. nt.

[rhett o rick]

20. He campaigned as a progressive to defeat Clinton and then immediately jumped to the

conservative side. He is in deep with the Pritzkers.

[NCTraveler]

21. Sure thing. Nt

[Downwinder]

17. DWS is the leader of the Democratic Party.

[NCTraveler]

19. DWS is the head of the DNC.

Many believe the president of the party holding the WH is the party leader. Does that really matter? lol.

[azurnoir]

25. and one we all should pay attention to true then true now

[NCTraveler]

26. That was one tough campaign. Nt

[FSogol]

8. CounterPunch is nothing more than a group of malcontents. There is no person living that would

meet their high "standards." They are a joke.

[rhett o rick]

9. So you don't have a counter arguement so you attack the source. Ad Hominem ?

[nolawarlock]

11. The counter- argument ...

... is that all political parties change and evolve. I always wonder about the historical knowledge of these people who claim the Democrats should get back to their roots.

[Maedhros]

14. If the grassroots is still fighting for progressive principles,

would it not make more sense to carry on that fight from somewhere else than the Democratic Party? If the leadership is doing its best to thwart their efforts, wouldn't they be better off working under a different, friendly leadership?

[FSogol]

18. When Sanders ran, what did he do? Did he carry the fight outside the party or did he join the

party? There is your answer. Work within the existing infrasturcture and keep pushing the party leftward. That will be easier than starting from scratch.

[rhett o rick]

23. No. It's our party and our infrastructure that they've coopted. If we allow the Fat Cats

to buy our Leadership what's to stop them from buying the leadership of a new party? If we can't get our party back, we are lost.

[lagomorph777]

16. Damned bunch of (Gold) man-sacks.

If I have a choice in the GE between the right and the extreme far right, it will be hard to get out of my chair.

[99Forever]

22. I usually agree with you rhett o rick.

Not this time. The corruption is so deeply entrenched in the establishment scum that it has turned it into FUBAR. The tipping point has come and gone. The Sanders movement was the Democratic Party's last chance to be redeemed. Short of violent revolution, which may yet happen, the oligarchs have won.

[rhett o rick]

24. We haven't lost. We just haven't yet won. We have given the Fat Cat's a warning of

more things to come. We are going to continue this fight until the Oligarchy is driven from our Party and then driven from our government.

[sadoldgirl]

27. In this case I have to dis agree with you.

Look, Bernie tried it in the open and honest way, and the party
succeeded in blocking him in any way it could. His supporters
tried everything they could, but all these "glitches" or
"mistakes" left us almost powerless.

The party now has the necessary money and means to
block every new effort to change it. I hope that a clear
break will come, because it might be the only way to
get serious changes. Unless it is too late already.

[rhett o rick]

28. Well if we retreat we will lose everything we have. If we can't win this, we are lost.

We desperately need a progressive strategy. But we cant surrender the Democratic Party.