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DCBob

(24,689 posts)
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:11 PM Apr 2016

electionprojection.com: Hillary in a landslide over Trump 358-180



http://www.electionprojection.com/presidential-elections.php

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Interesting Arizona is blue and Georgia is pink. I am certain the media will pump up Trump just enough to make this appear to be a horserace but in the end Hillary wins this easily. My opinion.

Note: Even Bernie could probably beat Trump!

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electionprojection.com: Hillary in a landslide over Trump 358-180 (Original Post) DCBob Apr 2016 OP
Sounds about right. I predicted 350+ months ago. MineralMan Apr 2016 #1
How could it be higher? DCBob Apr 2016 #2
I think Georgia is becoming more and more likely. MineralMan Apr 2016 #3
Maybe also Missouri and Indiana. DCBob Apr 2016 #7
Much will depend on how Trump campaigns, I think. MineralMan Apr 2016 #9
I think Missouri, Georgia and Arkansas are the most likely to flip. Garrett78 Apr 2016 #15
Kentucky may also flip leftofcool Apr 2016 #26
There is a poll out there showing Clinton only 3 points behind Trump in Mississippi onenote Apr 2016 #17
Yes, and there's still a long campaign ahead. MineralMan Apr 2016 #20
Also if Julian Castro is the VP nominee mcar Apr 2016 #19
This is kinda far out there but Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #24
I heard that from someone else also. DCBob Apr 2016 #25
I think both candidates would absolutely smash any Republican. forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #4
K&R! JaneyVee Apr 2016 #5
Everything where Obama got at least 44% in 2012 could go Democratic KingFlorez Apr 2016 #6
That sounds about right. DCBob Apr 2016 #11
Hard to imagine angrychair Apr 2016 #22
What to you mean "even Bernie could probably beat Trump"? elljay Apr 2016 #8
Yeah, I have seen those. DCBob Apr 2016 #10
There will always be changes in polls elljay Apr 2016 #13
lolwut? JaneyVee Apr 2016 #14
There is also nuclear waste dumping, Burlington College, his taxes etc........... leftofcool Apr 2016 #27
Bernie's background is ripe for GOP attacks. DCBob Apr 2016 #16
I supposed you assume the Hillary would lose to Kasich then runaway hero Apr 2016 #21
Kasich hasnt been fully vetted nationally. DCBob Apr 2016 #23
They will runaway hero Apr 2016 #38
Not only that, but woolldog Apr 2016 #36
BS hasn't ever gone against the scorched Earth campaign of the Republicans ... his number will fall SFnomad Apr 2016 #37
K&R mcar Apr 2016 #12
Looking great! Lucinda Apr 2016 #18
And just wait until Democrats get to focus our fire on trump! 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #28
I definitely think that Arizona could go Democrat this year. And it is good to see that Virginia StevieM Apr 2016 #29
I see they project Florida for Clinton. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #30
I believe its based mostly on polls.. DCBob Apr 2016 #31
I don't know who they can be polling. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #35
I want to believe. sofa king Apr 2016 #32
You have alot of "what ifs" in there. DCBob Apr 2016 #33
I hope you're right. sofa king Apr 2016 #40
Donald Dump is going down! And it's a woman who is going to beat him. :) nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #34
It would be amazing for Arizona to turn BLUE! I've never been so fired up for an election. grossproffit Apr 2016 #39
Kick Scurrilous Apr 2016 #41
I think Texas would be in play. Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #42
I thought Texas was turning blue? Sheepshank Apr 2016 #43
Stop posting this shit! We need trump to be the nominee. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #44
LOL.. DCBob Apr 2016 #45

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
3. I think Georgia is becoming more and more likely.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:19 PM
Apr 2016

Texas, perhaps, depending on how moronic Donald Trump is during the campaign.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. Much will depend on how Trump campaigns, I think.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:37 PM
Apr 2016

He has the potential to piss off vast numbers of people, and the propensity for doing exactly that.

We shall see which Donald Trump persona does the campaigning.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
15. I think Missouri, Georgia and Arkansas are the most likely to flip.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 04:39 PM
Apr 2016

There are some other candidates, as well. Regardless, I have no trouble seeing Clinton reach 350 electoral college votes.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
17. There is a poll out there showing Clinton only 3 points behind Trump in Mississippi
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:42 PM
Apr 2016

and ahead of him by 7 in Arizona.
Realclearpolitics has the polls.

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
24. This is kinda far out there but
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:50 PM
Apr 2016

I think Utah, based on my knowledge of it, could go blue. The mormons there freaking hate Trump. Hate his vulgarity and cruelty. Mormons may be strong GOP, but often times they don't like mean, openly hateful people.

 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
4. I think both candidates would absolutely smash any Republican.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:21 PM
Apr 2016

Kasich is the only even possible problem, and Kasich has the true unvetted candidate in the race.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
6. Everything where Obama got at least 44% in 2012 could go Democratic
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:23 PM
Apr 2016

Georgia will flip because it's trending Democratic and if there is a real landslide, South Carolina will flip too.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
22. Hard to imagine
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:47 PM
Apr 2016

PBO was far better known and still popular for a sitting president running for a second term. Despite that and running a weaker candidate than McCain, PBO still did slightly worse in 2012 than 2008 in SC and GA.
Given voter suppression laws and voter apathy, states like GA, SC, TN or TX are all still deep red voting states and that is not likely to change soon.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
10. Yeah, I have seen those.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:40 PM
Apr 2016

You do realize the GOP attack machine hasn't targeted Bernie yet? They have been focused on attempting to take Hillary out without much success. I suspect if Bernie somehow became the nominee and the GOP began to attack Bernie with full force those numbers would change.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
13. There will always be changes in polls
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 04:10 PM
Apr 2016

but they have less to work on with Bernie. His positions have been the same for decades, he has no scandals, no baggage (aka Bill) and he has very low negatives. Hillary, on the other hand, is a goldmine for attack ads. Some of this is a result of Republican disinformation, some a result of Hillary's self-inflicted wounds. Her negatives are so high that, in a normal election, they might be disqualifying. In this crazy election, the argument can be made that most people dislike and distrust Hillary but absolutely loathe Trump so she is the better candidate. Amazing to me how we've gotten to this point.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
14. lolwut?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 04:17 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie praised Castro, wrote questionable essays about women, dodged the draft, wants to raise middle class taxes, honeymooned in the USSR, called himself a socialist, lacks foreign policy, voted against rescuing the US economy, and has zero accomplishments after 30 years in government. You think Repubs are just gonna let that shit slide???

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
16. Bernie's background is ripe for GOP attacks.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:31 PM
Apr 2016

They will focus on his socialist comments and past connections to socialists and communist types. Much like they did with candidate Obama.. remember Bill Ayers, Bernadean Dorne Rev Wright, etc. Those were all nonsense but they had traction with certain groups. Obama was able to fend them off but Bernie is no Obama.

runaway hero

(835 posts)
21. I supposed you assume the Hillary would lose to Kasich then
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:45 PM
Apr 2016

Since if she went up against him, her numbers would change IMO. Remember Trump is not the nominee yet.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
23. Kasich hasnt been fully vetted nationally.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:47 PM
Apr 2016

Regardless I just dont see how they stop Trump at this point unless they pull something in Cleveland.. and if they do that all hell will break loose and Hillary wins anyway.

runaway hero

(835 posts)
38. They will
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:10 PM
Apr 2016

If they pulled the Voter ID thing to regular citizens, then imagine what they do to stop the outsider.

Side note, if they stop trump, do you think it proves people don't really want change.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
36. Not only that, but
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:16 PM
Apr 2016

the GOP has been tearing down HRC for 20+ years. How many people could withstand that onslaught like she has?

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
37. BS hasn't ever gone against the scorched Earth campaign of the Republicans ... his number will fall
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:21 PM
Apr 2016

The question is, would they fall enough that he couldn't beat tRump? I would suspect not, but nobody knows for sure.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
29. I definitely think that Arizona could go Democrat this year. And it is good to see that Virginia
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:01 PM
Apr 2016

is becoming more and more solidly Democratic.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
30. I see they project Florida for Clinton.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:04 PM
Apr 2016

That's just not going to happen, which leads me to think their map is based on pure speculation.
Obama barely squeaked by in Florida, with strong turnout from minorities, youth, and the Left. Maybe Clinton gets as strong a minority turnout as Obama, I tend to doubt it. She's def not going to get votes from youth and the Left. And Independants far outnumber Ds and Rs,,,she loses them pretty badly too...Obama got 50%, Clinton is down near 33%.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
35. I don't know who they can be polling.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:57 PM
Apr 2016

Obama beat Romney by under 1% in 2012. Clinton will not get the votes Obama did, she'll be well short. Romney wasn't an especially popular candidate for Republicans, but they turned out to vote against Obama, and they'll do so against Clinton.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
32. I want to believe.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:37 PM
Apr 2016

But what happens if Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Arizona are close enough to steal?

What happens if Ted Cruz breaks out as an independent and Trump concentrates everything on just those five states? Now nobody wins, and the election goes to the Republican Congress, and they don't even have to vote to make Paul Ryan the President by default.

It's looking good, but we need to be aiming for total, across the board victory from top to bottom, a victory so overwhelming it cannot be statistically hidden.

We are challenging a greedy, evil, ethically vacant, criminally corrupt party whose cover-ups over the past fifteen years suggest a legacy of thousands of crimes, crimes which can be prosecuted if they don't regain control of the White House and all Presidential records going back to Ronald Reagan's October Surprise.

Participating in the illegal destruction of 60 million emails from the Bush Administration is a crime so widespread that everyone who participated in it can potentially be barred from security clearances and future government service, forever. The competent fraction of the Republican Party is on the chopping block, and their worst nightmare, the woman they have savagely attacked for 25 years, would hold the axe.

Do any of us think overcoming that sort of motivation on the Republican side will be easy? Do any of us dare to think they will play fair, or even legally?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
33. You have alot of "what ifs" in there.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:46 PM
Apr 2016

I dont see how anyone runs third party and pulls a significant percent. Many states have "sore loser" laws that dont permit a candidate to run third party if they were a candidate.

Barring something really crazy.. Hilary wins this easily.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
40. I hope you're right.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:53 PM
Apr 2016

I really do, but every time I start to feel a little bit complacent, I remember back to this time in 2000, when I was saying, "Sure, he's got all the money, but he can't even read a teleprompter! Who would be stupid enough to vote for a guy this incompetent?"

But I was the stupid one.

And then I saw firsthand exactly how corrupt they were, how deep it went, the laws they were freely breaking, and the cover-ups they were still protecting going back to 1980 and beyond, and I realized that if they ever lost control and the people found out what they had really been up to all these years, people would be drinking Republican blood at the dinner table for a hundred years to come.

And now, they've let the fleece grow back on the sheep. It's time for them to come back, to police the documents and erase the hard drives and close the Presidential libraries--and there's no chance they can win.

Just like in 2000.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
45. LOL..
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:08 PM
Apr 2016

You are if you think posting this has any impact on who the Republicans pick as their nominee.

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