2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders is not "in it for the money"
It takes money to run a political campaign, and he still believes he has a shot. I disagree with him, but he isn't alone in his belief - Robert Reich agrees.
It's got to be a long shot at this point even in his own mind, but he didn't enter this, nor does he continue this, in a quest for money. That's ridiculous. You might believe he's misguided or naive or something, but I don't even understand how anyone could see him as greedy and trying to milk people out of money. He has a vision and he feels like he still has a chance to make his vision a reality.
I seem to remember Hillary staying in it right to the end during the last primary and it seemed pretty obvious she was out of it, but she also believed she still had a shot so she kept going. It's the same thing here.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)And Billy boy was so mad that I'm sure the deal was made before she endorsed Obama yep.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)And while a lot of the comments towards the end were bitter and unsavory, I can't recall that she basically started whining about unfair elections and then started lying about a contested convention.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Hillary stayed in and she and her surrogates got increasingly more bitter and ugly.
But she had way more delegates and super delegates than Sanders.
And I don't remember her ever spouting lies about a contested convention.
The idiot media might have. But she didn't. But I may be wrong. I just googled to see if she said that.
Maybe I'm wrong. But even if she did, she would have been spouting nonsense
even WITH many, many more delegates and super delegates in 2008 than Sanders has now.
G_j
(40,367 posts)Give 'Em Hell, Bernie
Bernie Sanders is more serious than you think
By Matt Taibbi April 29, 2015
got the go-ahead and the resulting story was a wild journey through the tortuous bureaucratic maze of our national legislature. I didn't write this at the time, but I was struck every day by what a strange and interesting figure Sanders was.
Many of the battles he brought me along to witness, he lost. And no normal politician would be comfortable with the optics of bringing a Rolling Stone reporter to a Rules Committee hearing.
But Sanders genuinely, sincerely, does not care about optics. He is the rarest of Washington animals, a completely honest person. If he's motivated by anything other than a desire to use his influence to protect people who can't protect themselves, I've never seen it. Bernie Sanders is the kind of person who goes to bed at night thinking about how to increase the heating-oil aid program for the poor.
This is why his entrance into the 2016 presidential race is a great thing and not a mere footnote to the inevitable coronation of Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee. If the press is smart enough to grasp it, his entrance into the race makes for a profound storyline that could force all of us to ask some very uncomfortable questions.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/give-em-hell-bernie-20150429#ixzz47VhHmAzC
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fun n serious
(4,451 posts)G_j
(40,367 posts)Do you think he suddenly changed in the last year?
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)I've seen this sort if thing happen to very good people, educated lawyers even.. Suddenly they change and start making poor decisions. I think it started when the alleged Bank fraud and Jane Sanders fiasco happened. She was having an affair with the developer of the college construction and wanted badly to give him a bonus opportunity to make money. I think it screwed Bernie up.. that whole fiasco
G_j
(40,367 posts)some mighty creative speculation there!
randome
(34,845 posts)Still doesn't have a chance of winning, though, but that's how it goes.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
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djean111
(14,255 posts)Hillary "raises for down-ticket Dems" - I know who is in this for the money, and it is not Bernie.
Ask yourself this, while Debbie Wassermann-Schultz has been the head of the DNC - Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, and 13 Senate seats. Where did all that "money raised for Democrats" go? If Debbie is that inept, and is still kept on, then something is fishy. I will no longer enable it, that's for sure.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Sanders has no chance but needs to lie to his supporters to keep the donations coming
oasis
(49,389 posts)in it for the money.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)For others, principles matter just as much, if not more. Restoring democracy from corporatocracy is actually a big deal ...
oasis
(49,389 posts)himself into 1% territory. Only in America.