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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:02 PM May 2016

Bernie Sanders: Politico Exposes Clinton Campaign ‘Money-Laundering’ Scheme

"BURLINGTON, Vt. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, on Monday criticized a Hillary Clinton campaign fundraising scheme that state party leaders told Politico has been used as a self-serving “money-laundering” conduit.

Despite Clinton’s pledges to rebuild state parties, Politico found that less than 1 percent of the $61 million raised by the Victory Fund has stayed in the state parties’ coffers.

“Secretary Clinton is looting funds meant for the state parties to skirt fundraising limits on her presidential campaign,” Weaver said. “We think the Clinton campaign should let the state parties keep their fair share of the cash.”

Sanders’ and Clinton’s primary campaigns both raised about $26 million in April, but Politico documented how the Hillary Victory Fund, a supposedly joint fundraising committee, has been exploited to inflate her presidential primary campaign.

“Secretary Clinton has exploited the rules in ways that let her high-dollar donors like Alice Walton of Wal-Mart fame and the actor George Clooney and his super-rich Hollywood friends skirt legal limits on campaign contributions,” Weaver added. “If Secretary Clinton can’t raise the funds needed to run in a competitive primary without resorting to laundering, how will she compete against Donald Trump in a general election?”


https://berniesanders.com/press-release/politico-exposes-clinton-campaign-money-laundering-scheme/

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Bernie Sanders: Politico Exposes Clinton Campaign ‘Money-Laundering’ Scheme (Original Post) NWCorona May 2016 OP
Another example of how Bernie is against the Democratic Party. Renew Deal May 2016 #1
Not at all. NWCorona May 2016 #3
How and when were the rules changed? Renew Deal May 2016 #9
Really? NWCorona May 2016 #19
I found the lobbyist change Renew Deal May 2016 #32
Work from and make up to $4000 a week ... beedle May 2016 #46
. Loudestlib May 2016 #10
And without her they would raise 0% of that money. Renew Deal May 2016 #21
So they should taker their scaps and shut up! mindwalker_i May 2016 #28
Glad to see Bernie is against campaign money laundering. Why aren't you? Only 1% to the states!! imagine2015 May 2016 #37
It's a made up charge Renew Deal May 2016 #40
No link in the Sanders press release to Politico. Why is that? Buzz Clik May 2016 #2
Not sure really but it shouldn't be hard to find. nt NWCorona May 2016 #5
Please do. This is your party. Buzz Clik May 2016 #7
. Loudestlib May 2016 #11
Thank you. And reading the article demonstrates, as predicted, that Weaver lied. Buzz Clik May 2016 #14
And vice versa nt NWCorona May 2016 #17
Vice versa? No opportunity to apply that to this situation. Buzz Clik May 2016 #20
I'm just saying that Hillary has surrounded herself with the same kind of people you mentioned. nt NWCorona May 2016 #22
Probably true. Buzz Clik May 2016 #25
Here's the link. You still have a problem? imagine2015 May 2016 #38
tsk tsk. If you're going to be surly, you should read the thread first. Buzz Clik May 2016 #61
Quite serious, but no evidence scscholar May 2016 #55
The article is leaving out that almost 6 million has since gone to states, as per Politico.... bettyellen May 2016 #4
Out of how much? nt NWCorona May 2016 #8
Read the article! They are just starting to disperse the money to states- that comes later in the bettyellen May 2016 #18
Contribution was one percent I believe. peace13 May 2016 #56
Oh take a flying leap Weaver. Must be angling for a job with Trump. nt BootinUp May 2016 #6
I don't think he'll have a problem finding work. nt NWCorona May 2016 #12
That's true Renew Deal May 2016 #31
Thank you, Jeff Weaver. It is about time someone called it what it is FlatBaroque May 2016 #13
The title of the OP (taken directly from the Sanders press release) is a lie. Buzz Clik May 2016 #15
"I have no idea why Weaver is getting away with this." Because it's true. imagine2015 May 2016 #39
here's the thread MisterP May 2016 #16
It's the day before an election, so Weaver makes another big splash with the SAME STORY pnwmom May 2016 #23
Why should he complain to the FEC? NWCorona May 2016 #24
If Hillary were doing anything wrong, he should. But she isn't. pnwmom May 2016 #26
I haven't formed an option on the money laundering claim as I haven't really looked at that NWCorona May 2016 #27
The data gathering and other DNC activities are a great help to down ticket Dems. nt pnwmom May 2016 #29
I'm not denying that. nt NWCorona May 2016 #30
Not the money laundering scheme I expected. I thought this was Panama-papers related. nt silvershadow May 2016 #33
I think that's gonna be general election material if Hillary makes it nt NWCorona May 2016 #34
First they rail against super dels saying that it is an affront to the will of the people. iandhr May 2016 #35
Not true at all but nice try NWCorona May 2016 #36
"actor George Clooney and his super-rich Hollywood friends" anigbrowl May 2016 #41
George Clooney Says Bernie Sanders Is 'Absolutely Right' to Criticize the High Price Tag on His Uncle Joe May 2016 #44
That's nice, but not what I'm talking about anigbrowl May 2016 #45
How else would you describe them, middle income class, down and out Hollywood Friends, perhaps Uncle Joe May 2016 #47
I wouldn't have gone after the cheap shot in the first place anigbrowl May 2016 #49
They have really done a number on you, no one is begrudging anyone's success or wealth, what Uncle Joe May 2016 #52
Of course they are anigbrowl May 2016 #54
The entire point of the email was to exhibit Uncle Joe May 2016 #57
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #42
More cheap shots from the Sanders campaign that let us know his true motive is chaos and destruction seabeyond May 2016 #43
K&R nt Live and Learn May 2016 #48
grifters amborin May 2016 #50
...but the most successful of all time. FlatBaroque May 2016 #59
And yet I get two hides for calling Bernie a grifter. Gomez163 May 2016 #51
Maybe that was because you were/are wrong NWCorona May 2016 #53
Sometimes when you get on a roll it's best to hang out in home turf for a while. peace13 May 2016 #58
Desperate and dishonest, but happy to sling the lies and the mud. synergie May 2016 #60

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
1. Another example of how Bernie is against the Democratic Party.
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:04 PM
May 2016

Bernie and his stooge Weaver attack Democratic fundraising. They are helping the republicans.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
46. Work from and make up to $4000 a week ...
Mon May 2, 2016, 06:26 PM
May 2016

... using well established immoral principles, lies and dirty tricks.

For just 4 easy monthly payment of ... no, not $100, not $50, not even $20, but for just $10 a month for 4 months (plus shipping and taxes) well will send you our 4 step plan on taking monetary advantage the gullibility of innocent party dupes.

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Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
21. And without her they would raise 0% of that money.
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:23 PM
May 2016

She is helping all the way down the line. And that's compared to Bernie who has raised $0 for state parties.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
2. No link in the Sanders press release to Politico. Why is that?
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:05 PM
May 2016

Money laundering is a felony. Weaver's charge is quite serious. He may get his sorry ass sued over this.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
14. Thank you. And reading the article demonstrates, as predicted, that Weaver lied.
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

Politico made no such statement.

I'm so tired of this shit.

Sanders is probably a nice guy, but he is surrounded by complete assholes.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
20. Vice versa? No opportunity to apply that to this situation.
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:21 PM
May 2016

Maybe this, "A bunch of assholes are surrounding themselves with Bernie Sanders."

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
61. tsk tsk. If you're going to be surly, you should read the thread first.
Mon May 2, 2016, 09:44 PM
May 2016

The problem was solve nearly three hours before you arrived.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
4. The article is leaving out that almost 6 million has since gone to states, as per Politico....
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:06 PM
May 2016

and that the filing they are referring to is before disbursals to states started......shame on them!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. Read the article! They are just starting to disperse the money to states- that comes later in the
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:15 PM
May 2016

cycle, and Politico knows it. SBS site put up PART of the article omitting the part where they explain money HAS been given back to states and it has not shown up in filings yet. So much integrity!

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
31. That's true
Mon May 2, 2016, 02:28 PM
May 2016

If Devine can keep getting hired after losing every single presidential campaign he's ever had a major role in, so can Weaver.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
13. Thank you, Jeff Weaver. It is about time someone called it what it is
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

Money laundering.

But it's the Clinton's, therefore no law is applicable.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
23. It's the day before an election, so Weaver makes another big splash with the SAME STORY
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016

as last time.

Couldn't he come up with something better?

How come he hasn't filed a formal complaint with the Federal Elections Commission?

Probably because he knows this:

But even if state parties aren’t getting to keep the victory fund cash, they benefit from money spent to enhance the DNC’s data, research and design services, said Jeremy Kennedy, the executive director of the Maine Democratic State Committee, which is a victory fund participant.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/clinton-fundraising-leaves-little-for-state-parties-222670#ixzz47WMVVM5F
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
24. Why should he complain to the FEC?
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:30 PM
May 2016

I don't see any fines being assessed, charges brought or and judgements bring made.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
26. If Hillary were doing anything wrong, he should. But she isn't.
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016

Bottom line:

But even if state parties aren’t getting to keep the victory fund cash, they benefit from money spent to enhance the DNC’s data, research and design services, said Jeremy Kennedy, the executive director of the Maine Democratic State Committee, which is a victory fund participant.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/clinton-fundraising-leaves-little-for-state-parties-222670#ixzz47WMVVM5F
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
27. I haven't formed an option on the money laundering claim as I haven't really looked at that
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:47 PM
May 2016

But to your point.

This move was only done to help Hillary and was just sold as helping down ticket dems. Of course the states would get some of the funds as it would be revealed as a complete farce. I'm will to wait and see what the actual split between Hillary and the party dems before I make final judgment.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
35. First they rail against super dels saying that it is an affront to the will of the people.
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:38 PM
May 2016

Now they are going to ask super delegates to over turn the popular vote while only the time saying the party he wants the nomination of is doing shady things.





NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
36. Not true at all but nice try
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:43 PM
May 2016

Bernie has worked within the superdelegate system from the beginning. That's why he hired one of his advisors. That doesn't mean you can't point out the flaws in the system.

Bernie supporters are another issue and agree with them.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
41. "actor George Clooney and his super-rich Hollywood friends"
Mon May 2, 2016, 05:40 PM
May 2016

I'm surprised he didn't call it Hollyweird. Sounds like most of this was cut-n-pasted from Free Republic.

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
44. George Clooney Says Bernie Sanders Is 'Absolutely Right' to Criticize the High Price Tag on His
Mon May 2, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

Clinton Fundraiser



George Clooney said this weekend that presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders was "absolutely right" to protest the amount of money involved in political fundraisers such as the one Clooney co-hosted Friday night in support of candidate Hillary Clinton – or the one he will co-host Saturday night, with wife Amal, at his home.

In a pre-taped interview for Meet the Press, Clooney was asked by host host Chuck Todd about the Friday fundraiser, in San Francisco, which reportedly cost $353,400 (in donations or raised funds) to sit at the head table, alongside with Clinton and the Clooneys.

"Do you look at it yourself and think, 'That's an obscene amount of money?' " Todd asked Clooney.

"Yes. I think it's an obscene amount of money," Clooney said. "I think that, you know, we had some protesters last night when we pulled up in San Francisco and they're right to protest. They're absolutely right. It is an obscene amount of money."


http://www.people.com/article/george-clooney-bernie-sanders-political-fundraising-hillary-clinton

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
45. That's nice, but not what I'm talking about
Mon May 2, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016

And given that George Clooney expressed some sympathy with Sanders' views on access to political candidates, Jeff Weaver's comments are even more misplaced.

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
47. How else would you describe them, middle income class, down and out Hollywood Friends, perhaps
Mon May 2, 2016, 06:27 PM
May 2016

starving artists?

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
49. I wouldn't have gone after the cheap shot in the first place
Mon May 2, 2016, 06:32 PM
May 2016

I've worked in the film industry for over a decade and don't grudge my more successful peers their success - which they have almost invariably worked very hard for. Nor do I think much of class-baiting in general so I don't do it. They've really done a number on you, haven't they? It apparently hasn't occurred to you that they (meaning the people who write press releases for Team Sanders) could simply not reach for that argument in the first place.

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
52. They have really done a number on you, no one is begrudging anyone's success or wealth, what
Mon May 2, 2016, 06:39 PM
May 2016

we do find objection to are the super wealthy using their vast quantities of lucre as mega-phones to drown the voice of the people.

This event is just one small example of that process.

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention but the middle class, poor and most vulnerable have been "class baited" for over thirty years here in the U.S.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
54. Of course they are
Mon May 2, 2016, 06:54 PM
May 2016

That's the entire point of the email - generate social anxiety about not being a member of the in-group in the reader, while implicitly offering to alleviate that anxiety for the low, low price of $27.

By the way, when you start using your opponent's phrases to make your own arguments it's a sign that you're reacting reflexively rather than thinking. I didn't set out to push your buttons specifically but I see that I've been doing it out of habit. Sorry.

Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
57. The entire point of the email was to exhibit
Mon May 2, 2016, 07:04 PM
May 2016

how the Clinton campaign is skirting election campaign finance law in allowing the mega-wealthy to contribute more to her campaign than they would otherwise be able to.

No problem in "pushing my buttons"

Peace to you, anigbrowl.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
43. More cheap shots from the Sanders campaign that let us know his true motive is chaos and destruction
Mon May 2, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016
 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
58. Sometimes when you get on a roll it's best to hang out in home turf for a while.
Mon May 2, 2016, 07:07 PM
May 2016

A month or so ago I accidentally wondered into the Hillary group. Boom a hide and then another on the outside in less than 24 hours. It feels bad, I know. After ten years of zero hides or blocks. Take care. : )

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
60. Desperate and dishonest, but happy to sling the lies and the mud.
Mon May 2, 2016, 07:12 PM
May 2016

What a positive campaign being run by a man of integrity, from the RW smears, the personal attacks and projection of his own underhanded behavior, Bernie just keeps proving what frauds he and Jane are.

When shall they be indicted for the actual laws they broke? FEC violations, illegal use of campaign funds, funneling money to his wife and family and the lies Jane told on loan forms that destroyed her employer and defrauded the Catholic church of millions!

Also, this was posted earlier and a clearly biased jury hid it, shall this OP be hidden to, or will we be allowed to see just how low Bernie and his staff are willing to go, in their desperation?

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