You know, there's really no need to fight with Sanders supporters

[RandySF]

Because watching Hillary win is the only reply we need.

[LuvLoogie]

1. I don't know. It's like bed bugs. I say we nuke the place from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. I have been trying to shower them with love.

[LuvLoogie]

25. That's kind of you, DSB. But I think many of them deserve a little poking.

[timmymoff]

16. Wow just like your war mongerer candidate.

[LuvLoogie]

27. Yes Hillary is betterer...

[HERVEPA]

2. And also because you get such pleasure our of being obnoxious.

[NCTraveler]

4. I posed something very similar in an op last week.

The overall consensus? If the attacks are going to continue, we will continue to fight.

Like Clinton, there is very little quit or tolerance for bullshit among her supporters. It is a very admirable trait.

[sufrommich]

5. I admit it's just shits and giggles at this point.

Hard to resist.

[griffi94]

6. I don't fight or argue with them

I simply continue to point out
that she leads in dlelgates by 300 and 3 million votes.

That Bernie isn't going to win because he's out of time.

Just that...no arguments about Hillary or Bernie.

She's beating him handily.
Voters have rejected Bernies agenda.

[pmorlan1]

29. Not Over Yet

Even fivethirtyeight (no friend of Bernie) says that it's still mathematically possible that he can win. So it's not over till it's over. But please pivot to the GE. What is that the 2nd or 3rd time that she has pivoted? I remember she pivoted right before Bernie had that long string of wins. Anyone remember how many times she pivoted to the GE only to pivot back to the Primary?

Bernie Sanders still has a mathematical shot at the Democratic presidential nomination, but his chances are growing ever slimmer.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/elections-podcast-the-legacy-of-bernie-sanders/

[grossproffit]

7. Success is the best revenge.

[Buzz Clik]

8. My ignore list is up to 86 as of right now. My arguments are becoming fewer.

[Live and Learn]

18. WTF? You left me off? Please fix that at once. It is downright embarrassing. nt

[onehandle]

9. The 'Hillary is bad' posts have ramped up considerably.

The 'Bernie is good' posts have all but disappeared.

What does it mean? Can someone read between the lines for me?

[nolawarlock]

24. It's the stink of desperation. nt

[Maru Kitteh]

10. Today I've been letting Bernie supporters fight with Bernie

using his own words. Their arguments are with him, not with me.

[Dawgs]

11. You'll be arguing with us again.

After she loses in November.

[Jitter65]

12. You, my friend, are absolutely correct. Turning my research away from Bernie to Trump and the GOP.

Just like Hillary.

[Bluenorthwest]

13. Of course if they stop being belligerent they might have to discuss shit like this:

Lord knows not one of you has any reasoned response to that horrific ignorance and/or pandering extravaganza.....what excuse is there for bashing gay activists while lauding Ronald Wilson Reagan? No excuse unless one is a Republican. Or a 'Reagan Democrat' like Hillary and her supporters. To the right, uptight and just a fright, Hillary 2016.

[shadowandblossom]

23. She already did it for us. Compare it with Sander's "apology" for his surrogate's 'whore' comment...

(If I had had any interest in voting for Sander's he would have lost his chance right there, pending a real apology and definitive efforts to distance himself from those comments and condemn them.) Anyway, here is Hillary's apology for her comments.

“On the fight against HIV and AIDS—and on the people who really started the conversation.
Yesterday, at Nancy Reagan’s funeral, I said something inaccurate when speaking about the Reagans’ record on HIV and AIDS. Since then, I’ve heard from countless people who were devastated by the loss of friends and loved ones, and hurt and disappointed by what I said. As someone who has also lost friends and loved ones to AIDS, I understand why. I made a mistake, plain and simple.

I want to use this opportunity to talk not only about where we’ve come from, but where we must go in the fight against HIV and AIDS.

To be clear, the Reagans did not start a national conversation about HIV and AIDS. That distinction belongs to generations of brave lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people, along with straight allies, who started not just a conversation but a movement that continues to this day.

The AIDS crisis in America began as a quiet, deadly epidemic. Because of discrimination and disregard, it remained that way for far too long. When many in positions of power turned a blind eye, it was groups like ACT UP, Gay Men’s Health Crisis and others that came forward to shatter the silence — because as they reminded us again and again, Silence = Death. They organized and marched, held die-ins on the steps of city halls and vigils in the streets. They fought alongside a few courageous voices in Washington, like U.S. Representative Henry Waxman, who spoke out from the floor of Congress.

Then there were all the people whose names we don’t often hear today — the unsung heroes who fought on the front lines of the crisis, from hospital wards and bedsides, some with their last breath. Slowly, too slowly, ignorance was crowded out by information. People who had once closed their eyes opened their hearts.

If not for those advocates, activists, and ordinary, heroic people, we would not be where we are in preventing and treating HIV and AIDS. Their courage — and their refusal to accept silence as the status quo — saved lives.
We’ve come a long way. But we still have work to do to eradicate this disease for good and to erase the stigma that is an echo of a shameful and painful period in our country’s history.

This issue matters to me deeply. And I’ve always tried to do my part in the fight against this disease, and the stigma and pain that accompanies it. At the 1992 Democratic National Convention, when my husband accepted the nomination for president, we marked a break with the past by having two HIV-positive speakers — the first time that ever happened at a national convention.
As First Lady, I brought together world leaders to strategize and coordinate efforts to take on HIV and AIDS around the world. In the Senate, I put forward legislation to expand global AIDS research and assistance and to increase prevention and education, and I proudly voted for the creation of PEPFAR and to defend and protect the Ryan White Act.

And as secretary of state, I launched a campaign to usher in an AIDS-free generation through prevention and treatment, targeting the populations at greatest risk of contracting HIV. The AIDS crisis looks very different today. There are more options for treatment and prevention than ever before. More people with HIV are leading full and happy lives. But HIV and AIDS are still with us. They continue to disproportionately impact communities of color, transgender people, young people and gay and bisexual men.

There are still 1.2 million people living with HIV in the United States today, with about 50,000 people newly diagnosed each year. In Sub-Saharan Africa, almost 60 percent of people with HIV are women and girls. Even though the tools exist to end this epidemic once and for all, there are still far too many people dying today.

That is absolutely inexcusable.

I believe there’s even more we can — and must — do together. For starters, let’s continue to increase HIV and AIDS research and invest in the promising innovations that research is producing. Medications like PrEP are proving effective in preventing HIV infection; we should expand access to that drug for everyone, including at-risk populations. We should call on Republican governors to put people’s health and well-being ahead of politics and extend Medicaid, which would provide health care to those with HIV and AIDS.

We should call on states to reform outdated and stigmatizing HIV criminalization laws. We should increase global funding for HIV and AIDS prevention and treatment. And we should cap out-of-pocket expenses and drug costs—and hold companies like Turing and Valeant accountable when they attempt to gouge patients by jacking up the price of lifesaving medications.

We’re still surrounded by memories of loved ones lost and lives cut short. But we’re also surrounded by survivors who are fighting harder than ever. We owe it to them and to future generations to continue that fight together. For the first time, an AIDS-free generation is in sight. As president, I promise you that I will not let up until we reach that goal. We will not leave anyone behind."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/12/1500493/-Clinton-Apologizes-then-kicks-ass

[Jim Lane]

14. This is why I can't understand all this whining about Bernie not dropping out.

Clinton supporters have said that Bernie should drop out, and/or that DU should "call it" (which apparently would mean a ban on posting anything that is in any way critical of Clinton), because of the need to focus on Trump.

What no one has explained is how support for Bernie Sanders on DU prevents anyone from focusing on Trump.

The position of the Clinton supporters is that Clinton's nomination is absolutely positively inevitable Bernie has zero chance math math math the Sun will rise in the west before anyone but Clinton is nominated etc. Well, if you believe all that, then why don't you follow RandySF's advice and stop worrying about the primary? Go ahead and focus on Trump.

Of course, there's an open question as to what you can do to maximize Clinton's chances in November. My personal opinion is that posting negative stuff about Trump on DU is pretty much a waste of time. (For example, if there are nine posts here detailing assorted Trumpian outrages, and one post that analogizes Sanders supporters to bedbugs (see upthread), the net effect of those ten posts would be to hurt Clinton vis-a-vis Trump.) But that's just my guess. It's up to each Clinton supporter to decide how best to spend all the time freed up by, for example, not dredging up five-year-old attacks on Jane Sanders (as was done within the past week, in the Hillary Clinton Group, garnering 31 recs).

[Live and Learn]

19. +10,000 nt

[fun n serious]

15. There will not be party unity if this is going to be a contested convention so why not stand up!? n

[timmymoff]

17. Stand up and be counted

just be able to handle the results. Hillary can win the nomination, she will be a great candidate for the upper 10% . You should be proud to stand with a candidate that has admitted she has no fight for minimum wage or health care. You should be proud of the leakage of brain material from children's ears and nose in Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Honduras due to her judgment. Burned decaying and dead bodies of indiscriminate bombings are a blessing to her candidacy and a welcomed reason to vote for Her Corporateness. I know this will be hard to read for some, as they wave their American flags ( made in China) in support of Candidate Clinton, but these are the things you already own in your support. Good Luck in November if she makes it.

[Live and Learn]

20. +10,000 nt

[Live and Learn]

21. There will be no party unity regardless. Third way killed it. nt

[BreakfastClub]

22. Thanks for the reminder. It's easy to lose track

of how far ahead Hillary already is. I guess I just get worried that Bernie is going to mess this up. But he won't. He can't.

[randome]

26. The best revenge is to live a good life.

And the best 'revenge' here is to let events play out as they will -with Clinton and her close partner, Math, taking the stage.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[Gothmog]

28. It will be nice when this forum is no more

I am looking forward to the general election