Why is Sanders trying to steal the nomination from the will of the voters?

[SFnomad]

Sanders: We'll Try to Win With Super Delegates

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/what-is-sanders-thinking

For the same reason (Super Delegates) wouldn't try to help Clinton overturn the clear verdict of the primary process in 2008, they certainly aren't going to help Sanders overcome it in 2016. Add to that that most do genuinely support Clinton over Sanders. But even though it's not going to happen, how exactly does Sanders, with a straight face, say that his strategy is to have the reviled 'establishment' step in and give him the nomination by overruling the actual voters?

[NRaleighLiberal]

1. another one bites the dust - you are number 5 hundred something on my list now.

[Skink]

2. You should just humor them

[NRaleighLiberal]

6. I would humor them if they were even a tad, remotely funny -

but it is just plain sad, for the most part. I am done with sad - and settling - and coronations.

[Skink]

11. Say something like yeah you are right I never thought it like that

My mistake

[NRaleighLiberal]

14. .

[fun n serious]

12. Massive popular and delegate vote lead is not a coronation. nt

[wyldwolf]

4. Why do people think anyone gives a rat's ass who goes on their ignore list?

[SFnomad]

5. The BS cheerleaders like being dramatic ... it's about the only thing they're good at n/t

[TheBlackAdder]

31. I never understood that? nt

[uponit7771]

15. Who cares your list? tia

[Travis_0004]

16. I'm sure he is going to be devistated by you blocking him

If you want to make me 501 something, have at it.

[NRaleighLiberal]

17. My pleasure

[woolldog]

39. Please add me as well

if you haven't already, berniebro

[NRaleighLiberal]

40. delighted.

[baldguy]

28. Your list won't matter in a month or so.

[KPN]

3. Will of the voters?

Too many caucuses and blatant shenanigans to make that case stick man. Not to mention that the primaries aren't over How many times are Berners going to have to endure this same old lame refrain here at DU?

It's tiresome.

[SFnomad]

9. Clinton has a total of 3+ million more voters than BS does

Even if all the "shenanigans" happened (and they haven't) and if they only happened to BS voters (and they didn't) ... BS still wouldn't close that 3+ million person gap.

[KPN]

21. Nah. Many of those were mistaken votes by mislead and

ill-informed. Add the half million lost to shenanigans and her cast of characer actors, the million or so votes more than Hillary that weren't cast in the caucuses, and all the votes that couldn't happen due to closed primaries, and Bernie's got her in a blow out.

For people who claim to be realistic, you aren't very.

[SFnomad]

22. I knew most of the BS cheerleaders were delusion ... but you've got most of them beat n/t

[KPN]

23. Thinking others who view things differently than oneself are delusional is a prime trait

of sociopaths. Stems from arrogance.

[SFnomad]

24. Actually, the delusions are their difficulties in math

And then you, you've got every excuse in the book why Secretary Clinton's 3+ million more votes are invalid, bogus, etc. And how BS is really the one that's ahead, if the rules had just been different. I've called the waaaaambulance for you.

[mythology]

29. Ugh. This is just embarrassing

Like any "good" conspiracy theory, it can't be disproven (which is different from saying that your theory is correct) because it relies on some claim that can't be proven that untold millions of Sanders voters couldn't vote.

I'm sorry if planning ahead and registering to vote is somehow too difficult for the average Sanders supporter. I was pretty sure it was really easy last time I did so, but maybe I'm some sort of voting savant. Caucuses are inherently undemocratic and violate the principle of a secret ballot.

[seabeyond]

7. Ya. Not very sporting of the man. Over 3 million. Nt

[JaneyVee]

8. How embarrassing.

[Waiting For Everyman]

10. Obama wasn't under active FBI investigation.

Sanders is entitled to use the existing system any way he wants and can. That has nothing to do with the opinion that it should be changed.

By the way, supers weren't supposed to announce their choice until after all the Primary voting was done. Announcing nearly all of them for Hillary at the very beginning radically skewed the whole election, as it was intended to do. It was done to seem as a "fact" to voters that Bernie couldn't win, from the first vote. So don't even go there.

HRC's side talking about stealing anything is very amusing.

[Skink]

13. Obama might yet be part of this probe

[onenote]

25. do you have a link to support "supers weren't supposed to announce their choice"

until after all the Primary voting was done?

That would be interesting if it was true. But I'm betting its not true.

[mythology]

30. You have two major problems with your super delegate theory

One, there is nothing that says they are supposed to wait to announce their choice. Go ahead, find a cite for your claim.

Two, Clinton had a substantial lead among super delegates at the start of 2008, but lost them to Obama when it was clear that Obama was going to win the primaries. It clearly didn't stop Obama from winning the primaries, but then again the Obama campaign managed to turn rallies into votes and the Sanders campaign didn't. It's not the super delegates' fault that the Sanders campaign forgot to plan for the basics.

Next time please have a vague grasp of the major facts before you tell somebody to "don't even go there." It will be less embarrassing for you.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. IMO, his motive was to challenge the corrupt 2 party system and he's been very successful.

And, there is no reason to stop now because it's working.

He's a smart politician, dedicated to democracy and the welfare of people, not to a party. He knew he had little chance of winning the nomination and is probably surprised at how well he's done in opening the eyes of so many people already fed up with corruption in politics.

He has been the right man at the right time to tap into the aspirations of ordinary people and the revolution will continue.

[Lucinda]

19. Because it's his only shot? n/t

[BreakfastClub]

20. because super delegates are evil unless they're for Bernie. Then they are purity

angels, just like Bernie.

[chwaliszewski]

26. C'mon Bernie supporters...

why can't we just do what the Hillary supporters want?

[Thinkingabout]

27. He is saying if Hillary does not have the required delegate count with

Pledged delegates then he will contest the convention. Currently Sanders needs big landslide wins to even get half of the pledge delegate count. I am thinking Hillary will have the required delegate count with pledged delegates. This would also mean she would have 719 more delegates than Sanders, now this would democratic huh. He wants oligarchy and have his supporters in charge
..

[TheBlackAdder]

32. A clash of philosophies: Socialists steal from others, while Corporatists buy people off. Who wins?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. To committed revolutionaries niceties like respecting the will of the voters ...

To committed revolutionaries niceties like respecting the will of the voters are just more bourgeoisie claptrap. They know better.

[morningfog]

34. The nomination process is not a democratic process.

[MoonRiver]

35. Fortunately he won't succeed.

But I think it's just another ploy to keep the proverbial cash cow producing. Once the money dries up he's outta there.

[Cobalt Violet]

38. So you want Trump in white house?

Clearly if she wins it will mean President Trump. She is a very weak candidate for the general.

[SFnomad]

41. And BS can't win the Democratic nomination ... which means he's a weaker candidate

Why would we want to go with someone like that?

[Cobalt Violet]

36. Because he doesn't want to see a Trump presidency.

She won't win in the general.

[MrMickeysMom]

37. When did you quit beating your spouse?

Makes about as much sense as that OP