Hillary needs to drop out.

[Joe the Revelator]

We absolutely need to focus on Trump. Right fucking now. If she cares about this country she will do the right thing and get our party united around the candidate who can actually beat Trump in the General Election.

[Peregrine Took]

1. She and her baggage have got to go.

Bye.

[redstateblues]

8. Her baggage is already unpacked. Bernie, on the other hand,

has been handled with kid gloves by Hillary and the media. He has many, many negatives waiting to be exploited

[Joe the Revelator]

9. Which is why she can't win a GE. Shoot, its why she can't close out the Primary.

She is a terrible candidate.

[Baobab]

41. She "BIG lied" about health care

so big its a deal breaker.

[redstateblues]

80. If she's terrible what does that make Bernie?

[intheflow]

11. His negatives will never be as bad a Clinton's.

We have 35 years of her on film/video changing her position as the political winds blow, and a disastrous record as SoS. Whereas Sanders has had a decidedly lower profile, and the clips we have of him he's still on the same message as his campaign. He has a better record of working across the aisle. His biggest failing is his lack of foreign policy experience, but it's hard to see how Trump will be able to exploit that seeing he has even less.

Even if everything being said about Clinton is absolute bullshit, negative perception haunt her. Moderate Republicans won't vote for her for sheet loathing of establishment Democrats, but Trump scares the hell out of them, too. They are more likely to swing to Sanders rather than abstain from voting altogether.

[Arizona Roadrunner]

38. Ancient history vs. current events

I doubt if most voters supporting Sanders care about his ancient history. However, with Clinton it is her current events that will destroy her when Trump goes after her plus her ancient history. Trump's key word is "crooked" meaning he will challenge the money laundering appearance of many of the donations to the Clinton Foundation and both Hillary's and Bill's timing of their paid speeches. When he uses the word "enabler", he is talking foreign affairs and the Clinton's personal "affairs" etc.

[Trust Buster]

2. She is the Democratic Party's presumptive nominee.

[passiveporcupine]

23. Presume is a synonym for assume and you know what they say about that don't you?

Don't assume. You just make an ass out of u and me.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

30. She ain't shit but just another candidate. nt

[AgerolanAmerican]

37. Not yet

As long as the superdelegates can change the outcome, there is and can be no presumptive nominee.

Just another wonderful side effect of having superdelegates.

[JimDandy]

3. Is the DC rumor of an indictment right?

I agree about the GE. If the election were held today, Bernie would win hands down and everyone knows it.

[ContinentalOp]

32. He has fewer votes than Clinton or Trump. on what planet would he "win hands down"?

You guys do realize that birds can't vote, right?

[JimDandy]

39. You do realize that, in the GE, Independents are the deciding factor

as they are 45% of total registered voters nationwide. They have not been able to vote for Sanders in the Dem party primaries like they would be able to do so in the GE. And he is getting more than 40% of the Dem vote in the primaries. Dems make up about 32% of the voters nationwide. So, yes, he would beat either Trump or Clinton.

Hmm, I'm seeing you more than I've ever seen you before... I'm touched.

And definitely: "team Clinton."

[ContinentalOp]

42. They're able to vote in the open primaries and she is winning the majority of them.

You're seeing me more than usual because that sweet Brock cash has finally come rolling in.

[eridani]

45. No--Sanders wins the open primaries, and Clinton wins the closed ones

Independents are now 42% of the electorate.

[fluffyclouds]

4. I agree 100 percent!

Clinton is starting to lose all the general election match up polls to Trump. Within two months he will make her a non electable candidate by going through her dirty laundry list on national tv!

[bettyellen]

5. LOL, nope. She is going to squash Trump, is already focusing on what needs to be done.

[CentralCoaster]

6. • MATH • Sanders > Clinton > Trump

An indictment right now would be a blessing upon our nation and upon our party.

[redstateblues]

7. And Hillary is the one that can do it. Bernie will be supporting Hillary after the convention.

Just wait and see

[RoccoR5955]

10. There is only one candidate who can beat Drumpf.

And it's NOT Clinton!

[mindwalker_i]

13. I was gonna say, Trump is a little old for Hastert

[Darb]

55. Uh, yeah, right. Got it.

Whoa, what a pantload.

[SidDithers]

12. ...

Sid

[MrMickeysMom]

15. Thanks for kicking this, Sid..

Please... AGAIN?

[MrMickeysMom]

16. Please?

[MrMickeysMom]

14. Help RE-INSTALL A REAL DEMOCRAT and REVIVE the PARTY...

Right Fucking NOW.

[Codeine]

17. She's too busy being the presumptive nominee.

Call us back when you've closed that delegate deficit down to something a little less gargantuan.

[Ferd Berfel]

18. Who has the better Chance?

[libdem4life]

27. Says it all...great images..n/t

[Betty Karlson]

44. Those pictures shopuld have an OP to themselves!

Thanks for posting them.

[pdsimdars]

48. Powerful statement . . those top match up pictures say a LOT

[farleftlib]

56. WTG, Ferd

That really says it all.

[cherokeeprogressive]

19. Drop. The FUCK. Out. nt

[snowy owl]

20. You're right. Watching Trump tonight, he's a chameleon.

I believe Bernie would have hard time against Trump but Bernie is our only hope. People will be shocked.

[amborin]

21. Only Bernie can beat Trump. She's the wrong candidate for the mood of the electorate,

independently of her lies, quid pro quo at State, FTA advocacy, etc.

[Joe the Revelator]

22. She inspires...nothing...

[amborin]

71. nothing rational or desirable or commendable; but she does inspire the Neo Cons who are

champing at the bit at the prospect of more wars

[Vincardog]

72. Because hse is a card carrying NeoCon her self, pretending to be a Neo Liberal.

[all american girl]

83. Except votes.

[Tarc]

24. 3,000,000 votes, 300 pledged delegates before tonght

Sanders cut into that by...wait for it...30,000 and 6, respectively.

[RoccoR5955]

58. What about the independents who cannot stand Clinton?

They make up clearly 1/3 of the electorate. If she cannot convince at least 2/3 of them, she shall lose.
Don't you get it?
The nomination is for who can BEAT the opposition, not whose turn it is, or who is more popular.

[Tarc]

63. Well that's kinda too bad now, isn't it?

If Sanders wants to be the nominee, he has to beat the other Democratic challenger. This is an election, not some ultra-safe-space everyone-gets-a-sticker-just-for-trying school.

Independents will have to suck it up and vote for who they feel will be the better president going forward. When confronted with Trump's sexism, racism, and xen[phobic past, I have no doubt that most will clearly choose Hillary.

[RoccoR5955]

64. You know what.

You Clinton supporters are also gonna have to "suck it up" as you say, when she loses, because so many do not want another Clinton in office. They may not be voting FOR someone, but they certainly will vote against a Clinton.

Just think, you could have the best candidate to beat Drumpf, but many of you just want to go with the establishment candidate.
Why do you think the independents left their parties, or never joined one? If Clinton, by some miracle, becomes the Democratic candidate, doesn't that make Drumpf the most independent candidate? One who is not a member of the political establishment?
I think that this holds a whole lot of water in the minds of independents.

So just suck it up, as you say, when you nominate Clinton as the candidate, because most certainly, she shall lose!

[Tarc]

66. By all means, tell those independent voters that they're probably racists too,

and will find that they have much more in common with Trump than they do with Clinton. Build a wall, stop Muslim immigration, destroy Planned Parenthood, all that.

Let us know how that selling point works out for ya...

[RoccoR5955]

70. I sell them nothing.

They make their own decisions.

[sister_rosa_refried]

25. Acid flash back, dear?

[mythology]

26. This is an embarrassing post

Sanders has roughly speaking the same chance I do of winning the nomination at this point. His win tonight actually leaves him further behind as he gained fewer delegates than were taken off of the total. Congrats. It means nothing to the overall race except there is one fewer chance for Sanders to make up any ground.

[Buzz cook]

28. 80 That's how many delegates Clinton needs to lock the nomination.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

After that any additional delegate is frosting.

[quantumjunkie]

29. K&R

[ChisolmTrailDem]

31. For the good of the party and to defeat tRump, she has to go. Now. nt

[senz]

33. Unlikely ...

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[Hiraeth]

34. Rec'd this just because if Hillary had won tonight there would be 95 threads DEMANDING

that Bernie Drop out.

thanks for the chuckle with a side of truth.

[farleftlib]

57. IKR

I've had it up to here with the "Call it, Skinner" threads.

[Hiraeth]

59. me too. UN-DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND. tiresome.

[farleftlib]

61. Oh just get with the program

Hillary is the presumptuous nominee....oh never mind!

[Hiraeth]

62. lol

get with the program? hell, I can't even FIND the program

[Yurovsky]

65. BOW DOWN! SUBMIT! OBEY!

Goldman Sachs doth command thee to bend a knee before Her Majesty...

But a funny thing happened on the way to the coronation... Hillary ran into the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party...

[Hiraeth]

69. it has been ever such ...

[KPN]

35. Stick a Fork In Her!!!

[Beacool]

36. That's the funniest thing I've heard today.

[trueblue2007]

40. Bernie needs to drop out.

He will never catch up.

[Betty Karlson]

43. Totally true.

Unfortunately, Clinton has a history of always being the last to read the writing on the wall:

2008: was the last one to concede Obma had won the nomination ("but I still won the popular vote!&quot

2013: pretty much the last Democrat to embrace equal rights for all (her "evolution" on gay marriage had already gotten to the point where she was a living fossil)

2015: TPP founders on objections of New Zealand. Polls show massive popular opposition to it, and Fast Track is suddenly irrelevant. And suddenly Clinton decides it is no longer a golden standard. (But still triangulates her words in a way that leave the opportunity of gold-foiling the standard again later in life)

2016: Millennials overwhelmingly reject the status quo. Clinton pertains they haven't done their homework, thereby admitting her mind is still stuck in 1999, when Millennials had no right to vote and could still be talked down to.

[Demsrule86]

46. She won and he lost.

He can't win a general which is why the GOP wants him...if he goes to the convention...he will lose there: but of course...his career is toast: already the stuff he said is going to get him shunned in the Democratic Party.

[KingFlorez]

49. Why should the first place candidate drop out for the loser?

This new line of thinking is incredibly warped.

[pdsimdars]

50. Here's a good one someone posted

.

[oldandhappy]

51. She has spent most of her adult life preparing for this.

She is setting up her GE run. We do not have to like it but it is reality.

[nemo137]

52. With the right support, good GOTV, and the dawning horror of what Trump really is, either D can win

I've never seen any evidence that the candidate matters all that much, except at the margins (Dean would have gone down much like Kerry in 2004, and after 8 years of Bush anyone from Clark to Kucinich would have won 2008). This is the least convincing and most tiresome of all the primary arguments.

[Joe the Revelator]

53. I think the dawning horror, for dems, is how quickly Trump is going to run back to center....

....and even take positions to the left of Hillary where they are popular (like trade). That is a problem. We shouldn't be ABLE to be outflanked on our left.

[nemo137]

68. There is no way Trump can get to the "center"

someone actively encouraging white supremacist mob violence who happens to talk good on trade is not in the "center" in any meaningful sense. Someone saying there ought to be some kind of punishment for women who have abortions but who might make sympathetic noises about job losses is not "center."

This idea that Trump, who for fucksake is like the cartoon of the boss we all hate, is going to become the workers' best friend in the general is blinkered at best. This is someone who began his political career with a full-page add calling for a lynching. The fact that he makes some protectionist noise does not fundamentally change this fact.

[Darb]

54. The delusion is strong with this one.

Did you ever see the movie Salton Sea?

[RoccoR5955]

60. This one projects an illusion all its own! n/t

[pdsimdars]

67. Jump right in there Joe. . . . . why mess around?

[mhatrw]

73. Yes. She needs to drop out for the good of her country.

She should not put her personal ambitions before her country as she did in 2008.

[silvershadow]

74. Yes, she does. nt

[pdsimdars]

75. I had never read down one of those twitter threads, but some are brilliant

Here is another great one.

I'd rather vote 4 what I want and get none of it, then what I don't want and get a whole lot of it

[B Calm]

76. She already proven she's a loser when she ran against Obama!

[Jack Bone]

77. CALL IT SKINNER!!

[Scurrilous]

78. Presenting the 6th stage of grief and loss: go batshit crazy.

[kevinmc]

79. No need, she will be the Next POTUS n/t

[redstateblues]

81. Bernie will endorse Hillary at the convention

[Rosa Luxemburg]

82. It is worrisome to have a candidate who is being investigated by the FBI

[all american girl]

84. So the woman who has the most votes and nearly a 300 delegates ahead

should drop out because....unbelievable. She won more open primaries, so that meme doesn't work. I'm tired that she's suppose to drop out because some special little snowflakes feelings may be hurt. This is how this is done. If you wanted Bernie to win, then you should have made sure more people voted for him. You don't get to change the rules in the middle because your guy is losing. The people have voted and are voting, and they are voting for her.

[B Calm]

85. Hillary will endorse Bernie at the convention.