2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHere is why it's mathematically impossible for Bernie to win with pledged delegates.
And why he's hammering on the idea of getting super-delegates away from Hillary, even though most come from states that supported her.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/math-says-bernie-sanders-is-finished-222775
Theres one more reason for Bernie Sanders focus his energy on winning over super delegates it's now mathematically impossible for him to reach the magic number for the Democratic nomination by winning the remaining pledged delegates alone.
Here's how it works: After winning Indiana, Sanders has 1,399 pledged delegates and superdelegates to his name, according to the Associated Press' count. That means he needs 984 more to reach the threshold of 2,383 needed to win.
The remaining contests, however Guam, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, California, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, South Dakota, and the District of Columbia only have 933 pledged delegates to offer.
So even if Sanders were to win 100 percent of the pledged delegates in each of those states, he wouldn't make it past the mark.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)He would need a simple majority of pledged delegates to get the superdelegates to flip like in 2008.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)pnwmom
(108,996 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)pnwmom
(108,996 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,035 posts)I added adjusted targets to get to 2026 pledged delegates.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1895203
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)A tall order.
LuvLoogie
(7,035 posts)thesquanderer
(11,993 posts)Hillary's not going to win with pledged delegates either. Either one of them is going to need super delegates to get over the threshold. Though unless there is some kind of seismic shift around the corners, it's Hillary who's going to get the lion's share of them.
PATRICK
(12,228 posts)the non super count they must hand him pen and paper and let him right the platform and future primary reforms. If he arrives with a thunderous crowd of national delegates they must hand him a pencil and paper and work with him to write a platform. If they deny him at all except for fluff he obviously will not accept- nor could he betray his supporters- then instead of a united party there will be hell to pay. With the number he has now he has the power and the will to blow off anything less than what he has been honestly committed to since the beginning.
The blowing of smoke by the the submission tempters is just that. Postponing the real reckoning and strengthening their weakening hand in this regard.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)dchill
(38,546 posts)to illustrate your bullshit point? If Hillary is the presumptive nominee, why worry?
Oh, it's a little early for that. Maybe a lot early.
Still bullshit. Still too early.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)We aren't in it for the math. Get over it.
kcjohn1
(751 posts)What you are trying to say I think is its improbable.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)pnwmom
(108,996 posts)And he doesn't have enough supers to overcome her advantage with them either.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)pnwmom
(108,996 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)delegates that you cherish support Clinton. Why you ask? Because the DNC has the hammer. The DNC will help or not help down ballot candidates if they support Clinton. This is the corrupt culture we are fighting. The Culture of big money buying our government. Well the Clinton supporters chose to side with the Big Money Fat Cats because winning is more important than helping those among us struggling. Goldman-Sachs profits are more important than helping the 2.5 million American children that are homeless. Profits for the big corporations is more important. Shame.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)We haven't had the more inclusive primary yet.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Or is it a process designed to keep progressives out?
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Unless you think Bernie won't win any more primaries. And that won't happen.
Isn't that right?
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)Bernie's the one who's been saying they shouldn't count. Till he changed his mind and said they should count -- but only as long as they pick him.
All she needs is half of the total of pledged and super delegates to win in the first ballot. In any combination. That's how it works, under the long-established rules.
basselope
(2,565 posts)pnwmom
(108,996 posts)because all of her supers will stick with her.
basselope
(2,565 posts)Sorry, but #demdarules.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)At least in the sense the term is usually used. You can't have a contested or brokered convention with two candidates.
basselope
(2,565 posts)Bangbangdem
(140 posts)Hahaha!
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)You know, because ,.... because we learned it on the DU. Bernie already won. We, (HRC supporters) are just scared, and shaking in our boots.