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polly7

(20,582 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:51 AM May 2016

Curious quick question. I keep seeing how many millions Clinton is ahead in votes;

has there been any tally of the total number of voters who weren't allowed to vote because of closed primaries, having their affiliations changed without their knowledge, etc.?

As well as:

"and don't forget caucuses, Bill interfering, misleading flyers and ballots,

paperless voting machines, the phony American Independents Party, misrecoding votes at caucuses, and varied and sundry other undemocratic shenanigans (well, cheating actually)."


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Curious quick question. I keep seeing how many millions Clinton is ahead in votes; (Original Post) polly7 May 2016 OP
It's in the billions. All of them Sanders voters. Buzz Clik May 2016 #1
LOL Cali_Democrat May 2016 #5
Brilliant. polly7 May 2016 #7
check the scoreboard Buzz Clik May 2016 #9
That was in reply to your thoughtful response in the discussion. nt. polly7 May 2016 #10
That does seem to be the assumption Mz Pip May 2016 #12
So outrageous when only Democrats can vote in a Democratic primary. Nye Bevan May 2016 #2
No. No such tally is possible, since the information is not known. MineralMan May 2016 #3
We have a closed caucus here in Iowa, but there is no "popular vote" total here. stone space May 2016 #4
Hi Polly.. fun n serious May 2016 #6
Hi fun. polly7 May 2016 #8
WA State for example.. fun n serious May 2016 #11

Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)
12. That does seem to be the assumption
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:05 AM
May 2016

I don't think it's a given that all of those Independent votes would necessarily have gone to Sanders.

If someone was such an ardent supporter of a particular candidate then it would have been wise to reregister as a Democrat or a Republican in those closed primary states. Not that hard.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
3. No. No such tally is possible, since the information is not known.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:00 AM
May 2016

Numbers at the polling places count. Imaginary numbers don't.

3.1 million more popular votes. 290-something pledged delegates. A huge majority of the superdelegates. Those are the numbers that count.

Elections count. Caucuses count. Delegates count. Actual elections, caucuses and delegates. No other numbers count.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
4. We have a closed caucus here in Iowa, but there is no "popular vote" total here.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:00 AM
May 2016

So we're not even included in any such total.

I do happen to have something like "popular vote" totals for my own precinct, but that's only because I took a photograph of the whiteboard before I left the caucus.

Somebody would have to search the internet for such photographs to get such a number. And there are probably many precincts where no such photograph exists.






 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
6. Hi Polly..
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:01 AM
May 2016

There is a lot more disenfranchisement going on in Caucuses which Bernie wins. Shenanigans too. This is not a close race. She is winning 3x more than Obama was in 2008.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
11. WA State for example..
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:05 AM
May 2016

There are almost 6 million registered voters in WA.. only 230,000 people voted in the caucuses.

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