2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCurious quick question. I keep seeing how many millions Clinton is ahead in votes;
has there been any tally of the total number of voters who weren't allowed to vote because of closed primaries, having their affiliations changed without their knowledge, etc.?
As well as:
"and don't forget caucuses, Bill interfering, misleading flyers and ballots,
paperless voting machines, the phony American Independents Party, misrecoding votes at caucuses, and varied and sundry other undemocratic shenanigans (well, cheating actually)."
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Mz Pip
(27,453 posts)I don't think it's a given that all of those Independent votes would necessarily have gone to Sanders.
If someone was such an ardent supporter of a particular candidate then it would have been wise to reregister as a Democrat or a Republican in those closed primary states. Not that hard.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Bernie wuz robbed.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)Numbers at the polling places count. Imaginary numbers don't.
3.1 million more popular votes. 290-something pledged delegates. A huge majority of the superdelegates. Those are the numbers that count.
Elections count. Caucuses count. Delegates count. Actual elections, caucuses and delegates. No other numbers count.
stone space
(6,498 posts)So we're not even included in any such total.
I do happen to have something like "popular vote" totals for my own precinct, but that's only because I took a photograph of the whiteboard before I left the caucus.
Somebody would have to search the internet for such photographs to get such a number. And there are probably many precincts where no such photograph exists.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)There is a lot more disenfranchisement going on in Caucuses which Bernie wins. Shenanigans too. This is not a close race. She is winning 3x more than Obama was in 2008.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Thanks for the polite reply. I disagree, but
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)There are almost 6 million registered voters in WA.. only 230,000 people voted in the caucuses.