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Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:53 AM May 2016

A Contested Convention Is Exactly What the Democratic Party Needs

Bernie Sanders will go to Philadelphia with more pledged delegates than any insurgent in modern history. Here’s what he could do with them.

by John Nichols

Joe Biden understands something about the Democratic Party and its future that his fellow partisans would do well to consider. “I don’t think any Democrat’s ever won saying, ‘We can’t think that big—we ought to really downsize here because it’s not realistic,’” the vice president told The New York Times in April. “C’mon man, this is the Democratic Party! I’m not part of the party that says, ‘Well, we can’t do it.’” Mocking Hillary Clinton’s criticism of Bernie Sanders for proposing bold reforms, Biden dismissed the politics of lowered expectations. “I like the idea of saying, ‘We can do much more,’ because we can,” he declared, leading the Times to observe that, while Biden wasn’t making an endorsement, “He’ll take Mr. Sanders’s aspirational approach over Mrs. Clinton’s caution any day.”

Unwittingly or not, Biden made an even better case than Sanders has for taking his insurgent campaign all the way to the Democratic convention in Philadelphia. If the party is going to run in 2016 on a “do much more” agenda—as opposed to triangulating around the center—the Vermont senator’s supporters and like-minded Democrats, including Clinton’s progressive backers, will have to force the issue. Taking the Sanders insurgency to the convention is the paramount vehicle for placing demands that are ideological and, as Biden’s comments suggest, also strategic. That’s one reason why Sanders promised in a statement on April 26 to go to the convention with “as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform”—despite the fact that Clinton’s delegate advantage now all but guarantees that she will win the nomination.

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http://www.thenation.com/article/bernies-philadelphia-challenge/
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A Contested Convention Is Exactly What the Democratic Party Needs (Original Post) Petrushka May 2016 OP
Yikes! Buzz Clik May 2016 #1
'night-night. Sleep tight. Don't let the bedbugs bite. Petrushka May 2016 #7
Exactly. Time to put the Sanders campaign to bed. There will be no contested convention. Buzz Clik May 2016 #8
Sweet dreams! Petrushka May 2016 #12
Oh, hell yes! It's fantastic being on the winning side. Buzz Clik May 2016 #15
Kickin' Faux pas May 2016 #2
morning rounds of the news - Sanders HAS to STAY IN! floppyboo May 2016 #3
DNC Chair: If It Were Up to Me, Independents Wouldn’t Be Allowed to Vote in Primaries Petrushka May 2016 #5
DWS is a walking disaster. nt vintx May 2016 #11
that just encouraged me to dana_b May 2016 #16
---> Petrushka May 2016 #20
Biden is right vintx May 2016 #4
Biden's philosophical argument which IS a valid point, was not BootinUp May 2016 #6
Obama has done his best to correct the Clinton legacy floppyboo May 2016 #9
Most Democrats know that Hillary had nothing to do BootinUp May 2016 #10
I was talking about the 90's. floppyboo May 2016 #13
Of course not. BootinUp May 2016 #14
K&R jwirr May 2016 #17
Sanders is lying about contested convention to keep small dollar donations coming Gothmog May 2016 #18
That worked really well in 1980... PeaceNikki May 2016 #19
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
8. Exactly. Time to put the Sanders campaign to bed. There will be no contested convention.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:30 AM
May 2016

Not much leverage when you lose by over 300 delegates.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
3. morning rounds of the news - Sanders HAS to STAY IN!
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:10 AM
May 2016

Much of talk going on is Hillary campaign courting the never-Trump Republicans.
It's hard to forget DWS' dismissal of independent/progressive voters in this context.
Without Bernie still in the race, the veil will fall and the 3rd way will no longer be obliged to hide their purple hearts, beating red deep within.

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
5. DNC Chair: If It Were Up to Me, Independents Wouldn’t Be Allowed to Vote in Primaries
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:21 AM
May 2016
http://ivn.us/2016/05/03/dnc-chair-independents-wouldnt-allowed-vote-primaries/


There's a petition at the end of that article, saying:

Stop Taxpayer Funding of Party Primaries. If Our Vote Doesn't Count. Make Them Pay

BootinUp

(47,197 posts)
6. Biden's philosophical argument which IS a valid point, was not
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:27 AM
May 2016

an argument to have a non-unified convention.

Look, the Dem party is today more liberal than 8 years ago, and as a result we WILL have a more liberal platform than we have had in 30+ years.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
9. Obama has done his best to correct the Clinton legacy
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:40 AM
May 2016

but it is not time yet to rest easy, especially with another Clinton challenge to move right again.

BootinUp

(47,197 posts)
10. Most Democrats know that Hillary had nothing to do
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:46 AM
May 2016

with the country moving to the right in 1970-1980. But some like to have a boogeyman.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
13. I was talking about the 90's.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:52 AM
May 2016

Remember Carter was president late 70's. Regan dragged the Dems right in the 80's. Don't need a repeat today.

Gothmog

(145,619 posts)
18. Sanders is lying about contested convention to keep small dollar donations coming
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:23 PM
May 2016

There will be no contested convention

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