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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Sanders campaign’s phony math on superdelegates
The Facts
The Sanders campaign provided a list of 116 superdelegates that it said had switched from Clinton to Obama.
On the Sanders list, one major oddity is that it includes 23 members of the New York congressional delegation. These lawmakers were among Clintons earliest and strongest supporters in 2008, and they adamantly refused to switch as long as she remained in the race. But on June 8, one day after Clinton dropped out, the entire New York congressional delegation collectively endorsed Obama.Dammit to hell we fight, explained Rep. Charles Rangel. When its over, we come together and go out there to win. So Rangel and the New York delegation considered the race to be over, but the Sanders campaign includes him and the rest of the delegation on a list of switchers.
Clinton also released her pledged delegates on Aug. 28, on the eve of the 2008 convention, meaning they were free to vote for anyone.
In a news article on Clinton releasing her delegates, then-New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine is quoted as saying the New Jersey delegation privately decided to switch to Obama in light of her decision to release her delegates. There are nine members of the New Jersey congressional delegation on the Sanders listincluding Corzine. I think it is reflective of the unity that I sense that is building across the party, Corzine told USA Today.
So these were superdelegates who switched to Obama almost two months after Clinton dropped out of the race, when Clinton was encouraging everyone in the party to support Obama.
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This list shows 29 people switched from Clinton to Obama, though one later switched back to Clinton. Thats a total of 28. Some of these switches were undoubtedly noteworthy and symbolic, such as the announcement by civil rights hero Rep. John Lewis of Georgia on Feb. 14. But 18, including former vice president Walter Mondale, switched after the last primaries in South Dakota and Montanaand the same week Clinton dropped out. So its really just 10 people during the primary season.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/05/the-sanders-campaigns-phony-math-on-superdelegates/
Just to clear up another lie circulating.
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The Sanders campaign’s phony math on superdelegates (Original Post)
seabeyond
May 2016
OP
Are you telling me you don't know how the Democratic National Convention Operates?
Buzz Clik
May 2016
#2
Kickin' for the night crew, just so we are on board and know that this lie needs to be debunked. Nt
seabeyond
May 2016
#9
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)1. What do you expect from Camp Pinocchio...
Sid
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)8. 25 Pinocchios now? More? Nt
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)2. Are you telling me you don't know how the Democratic National Convention Operates?
Are you seriously telling me that right now?
SERIOIUSLY????!!!!111111one
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)4. Series11!!!11!11!1 LOl. Oh noes. You moran, lol.... Jury, tis a joke. Nt
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)3. Disturbing and disappointing but not surprising.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)5. Campaign of integrity. What can you say. Nt
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)6. Oh, they'll switch soon. Bernie will wind up with ZERO.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)7. Lol. there is that. I expect a couple to hold strong. Maybe. Nt
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)9. Kickin' for the night crew, just so we are on board and know that this lie needs to be debunked. Nt
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)10. Thankie much.
A little bit of info for the reality impaired.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)11. The continuing butthurt amazes me
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)12. Sanders lies. Pointing out the lie is butthurt? Crude and vulgar for no reason. And, where would the
butthurt be point out Sanders lie.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)13. Your accusations against Sanders always turn out to be false
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)15. So he didn't claim 126 moved from Obama leaving out the facts?
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)16. Bloobitty, blobitty blooo!!
Your accusations, predictions, rants, etc, re: Sanders always prove overblown or false in the end.
I just chock it up as more butthurt and chuckle....
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)17. A lie is a lie.
mcar
(42,374 posts)14. They really are not good at math
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)18. Bernie Math