I hate protestors

[Armstead]

Especially these troublemakers

[redwitch]

1. :-)

So empowering! Hubby and I went to D.C. twice to march against Iraq war. It made me feel HIGH! to be with so many kindred spirits!
We took so many great photos, I will have to ask him to download for me so I can post them on DU. I think I did post some at the time but as it was over a decade ago( how can that be?) and I am oldish I forget.

I remember the days when we were united against a common enemy. I think we have forgotten some important things we used to know.

Thanks for posting these Armstead.

[Octafish]

2. Me too.

If they lived in a Democracy, they wouldn't have to protest as they would elect people who solved the People's problems -- not those who bailed out Banksters and protected warmongers and traitors.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Not to mention these:

[KittyWampus]

4. I should haul out some of the anti-BLM posts from Sanders supporters...

but that's really not my style.

Needless to say, the hypocrisy is consistently strong with a certain group on DU.

[Armstead]

11. Go ahead...I'll fess up

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511918778

[jillan]

12. Here - I did it for you....

You're welcome

[senz]

21. Thank you, jillan.

I can't stand it when they say shit like that.

[KittyWampus]

41. You can't be that obtuse. The Sanders supporters denounced BLM daily in terms

that should have caused shame.

Maybe you are that obtuse.

[PufPuf23]

17. How many of your own posts go directly to the cheap shot? eom

[Skwmom]

5. Hypocrisy, thy name is ... A lot has been exposed this election cycle.

[KittyWampus]

6. Yes, it certainly has. There's one group of Authoritarians who silenced supporters

of one candidate. Very telling, indeed.

[Broward]

7. You're a good little anti-Snowden authoritarian.

If everyone thought like you, we'd have no freedoms whatsoever.

[dchill]

28. +1

[KittyWampus]

42. Glad to see another Sanders supporters signing onto the name calling.

[dchill]

48. Yeah, well, nothing like being called authoritarian...

by an acolyte of the worst authoritarian in maybe forever. Just lobbing that shuttlecock.

[KittyWampus]

40. Nice name calling there. Prime example. Black/White reptilian thinking

isn't my thing. But you are welcome to it along with your name calling.

[Cheese Sandwich]

8. These folks were memorable

[MisterP]

20. those always reminded me of the rent-a-rads that the whitest parts of LA

hire to keep transit out of their communities (like, Santa Monica's whiter than Orange County--but they donate to Feinstein so it's all good)

good times

[Cheese Sandwich]

23. rent-a-rad?

Short for rent a radical? If so that's hilarious and I had the same impression.

[MisterP]

34. ever since 1996 the "Bus Riders' Union" has said that anything other than 40-foot buses

is RACIST; of course their money all comes from SM/BH/Westwood, which has a racist interest in 1. keeping the outgoing lines from reaching the Westside and 2. the incoming lines from the East and South; furthermore the protesters are all Black and Latino, but the leadership are these lilywhite fossil-Left geezers surrounding Eric Mann (think Bob Avakian), pulling in $300K and driving in a fancy car while the BRU takes the subway (nobody in LA's ever seen them ON THE BUS)

it's particularly intriguing when the bucket-drumming fist-clenching "we will NOT be SILENCED"-chanting horn-honking clownshow is faced by people from East LA and Inglewood demanding, above much else, LRT service to their communities! but as long as their handlers frame it as INJUSTICE! teens and college students will pop up and chant to keep transit out of white neighborhoods; Mann even says that the only people who complain are wicked White commuters

Beverly Hills blew $10 mil by embezzling it from the High School against the Purple Line (including professionally producing a video where high schoolers are detonated by methane seeping from teh ebul subway line): Cheviot Hills spent only a few million dollars on some ass who said that railways were a way to purge Los Angeles of Black people by running them over, and that held up the Expo Line for 3 years!

[SMC22307]

31. Reminds me of a clip from Jerry Springer or similar trashy daytime TV show.

I must have missed it before, but the woman in the red seems a bit annoyed at her fellow protester -- the one getting physical.

Ah, good times.

[hrmjustin]

9. Not me.

I have been to many protests in the past 20 years.

[KingFlorez]

10. Screaming at people is not really protesting

This is also protesting, but the ugly side of it. Not all protesting is good and it doesn't mean mindless screaming at people.

[Armstead]

13. Oh get off it....Emotions can get riled up at any protest

Yes ideally, people at protests would be well behaved and not abusive.

But it doesnt always work out that way, no matter how good the cause or well intentioned the organizers might be.

The civil rights movement of the 60's was not always dignified ...sometimes things got out of hand.

It's the nature of crowds and the emotions that can get stirred up when people are passionate.

[NurseJackie]

46. So now you're defending these protestors too?

Things just "got out of hand" ??

People were just "stirred up" and couldn't help themselves?

Because it the "nature of crowds" then it's okay??

These people were "well intentioned" and "passionate"??

ENOUGH ALREADY! FULL IGNORE!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. And even this, ugly as it is, is also protected by the First Amendment.

We allow even offensive speech like this because speech should not be suppressed in a free society. "Mindless screaming at people" is in the ear of the beholder, one might say.

[KingFlorez]

16. Of course, but positive perception of protest is not protected by the First Amendment

The law can't protect anyone from being viewed negatively by others.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

18. That is correct. Sometimes protest tactics might backfire,

and that's always the chance protesters take. But sometimes it's the only way some groups or causes can get any attention at all, BLM being an example. Some people took issue with the way they handled their protests, but if they'd just stood quietly at the side of the road holding signs, would anyone have paid them any notice?

[KittyWampus]

43. So, it's protected. But BernieBros don't care how ugly their rhetoric or how bullying.

It doesn't matter to them. They just want everyone to shut and coronate Sanders. Cause he holds huge rallies.

And the FACT is that on DU Clinton supporters were silenced in very large numbers by abuse of the jury system.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

47. I do not condone the bad behavior of a few people

who happen to support the same candidate that I support; there will always be some assholes who get too wrapped up in this process - on both sides - and fail to control their language. Those people do not represent the millions of people who support Bernie Sanders and who express their support appropriately. Nobody wants to "coronate" anybody, except perhaps the Clinton supporters who just assumed she'd sashay right through the halls of the convention to her expected unopposed nomination (aided in no small measure by the weight of DWS' thumb on the DNC's scales), and who furiously resent it that someone has had the unmitigated gall to make her fight for it.

As to the DU jury system, I can speak only for myself and I can honestly say that I've never voted to hide a post on the basis of who it supports. If the post is nasty and insulting I will vote to hide. If a comment is an expression of an opinion that does not contain insults or unfair claims I will not vote to hide even if I don't agree. I have voted to hide rude Sanders posts as well as rude Hillary posts. The DU jury system is imperfect but I see no evidence that anyone has been unfairly silenced. Watch out for confirmation bias; it's a real thing.

[Luminous Animal]

24. Apparently. You can't distinguish between the privileged hate and the down trodden's anger.

The protest against Hillary was organized by organizations that pre-date the primary by many years and represents people who have been down trodden and at the killing end of Clinton's policies. The protesters are immigration activist, Honduran activists, Haitian activists…

[KittyWampus]

44. "Downtrodden". LOL! Bullying behavior is excused by any excuse you can conjure up.

The photos provided clearly show Bernie signs.

[jillan]

15. More horrid protesters. How dare them!!

DEAL WITH IT!

[Doctor_J]

19. Probably no hillarians in there, since most of them are pro war

[senz]

22. Sad but true.

[Demsrule86]

25. Protesting a candidate's rally

is not the same thing as protesting a war. I do not see the point in that ...and like it or not Bernie Sanders supporters behaved badly and made a little kid cry. Instead of saying sorry or feeling shame, you double down...and post stuff that has nothing to do with anything. Exactly why is it necessary to be so ugly to Hillary? She is campaigning ...just can't stand the fact she won. You all make Bernie look bad and that is the truth. I will be glad when these 'Democrats' find some other flavor of the month and move on.

[bvf]

29. Here's the point:

Protesting a candidate's rally is not the same thing as protesting a war.

No, it's preferable to protest a war before it starts, and you know we'll sure as shit have another one producing lots of caskets very soon with Clinton in the White House.

What's your flavor of the month? Iran, maybe?

[seekthetruth]

32. YES!

[Demsrule86]

37. Oh please

You are just angry that your guy lost and in my opinion this sort of thing is unbecoming to Democrats. I would think you all were Trump people just watching the video. You hurt your candidate and your so called revolution with such behavior...boorish is a kind way to describe it.

[bvf]

38. Completely vacuous response.

Your failure to address the point is noted, as is your reliance on the predictable "your guy lost," and "just like Trump supporters" dreck.

[seekthetruth]

30. The reason....

.....is that Hillary simply does not represent a large portion of the electorate.

So many issues in my heart of hearts I cannot get my head around.

I firmly believe that climate change is real. I'm from the South, and where I grew up we had four distinct seasons. In November, most days would hardly touch above 65 or so. Now they're seeing multiple days of 75+ degrees. Can't you see that things are changing....? And you won't come out against a candidate who refuses to reject fracking? I don't want anyone's water poisoned by the use of extremely toxic water, ok? Get it? It's time now to move on from these horrendous collective habits that we find ourselves doing and allowing private industry to get away with. We need so many changes, and you want to argue that we need a female president?

I know of so many women in my life who are against Clinton. They despise Trump, but they mistrust Hillary.

We need someone who is willing to do the things that are needed to provide for a stable and peaceful union based equality and justice.

War, further entanglement between money and campaigning, placing too much trust in the financial markets to regulate themselves, and horrendously dangerous environmental practices is not the answer. The record is there.

And you still want me to vote against my conscience?

[Demsrule86]

35. I don't know any such women

And I live in Ohio...we all agree Trump is the worst. And it makes no difference...candidates should speak especially since Bernie says it is about ideas and all which clearly it is not...oh and Bernie lost so way less people like him.

[bvf]

39. I live in Ohio, too,

and am hard-pressed to name even one female friend or acquaintance who voted for Clinton in the primary here.

And I'm talking across-the-board here, demographically speaking.

[seekthetruth]

26. Made me proud when I first read the title of this thread.....

..... because I knew that it was a Bernie thread! THIS is what makes our collective democracy great....the right to voice our critique of every and any institution that threatens to diminish that voice. When mass movements occur I n strong and large enough numbers, we can get the attention of those in power.

[seekthetruth]

27. Of course, if money runs the "democracy"

......then it's nearly impossible to break through that brick wall.

[Demsrule86]

36. Talk is cheap

You look bad really bad.

[bvf]

33. Excellent OP, Armstead. Thanks. n/t

[lumberjack_jeff]

45. I heard that one of 'em said a mean thing within the earshot of a lady.

A handicapped lady! Of color!

I'm gonna vote for every war I can because of these horrible mean people!