Post here if you are united with the protesters! No deportation of children! Justice for the human

[Luminous Animal]

beings of Honduras and Haiti!

Hillary Clinton. You have the blood of Berta on your hands.

That, my friends is what this protest was about.

Hillary will be challenged all across California for Berta's death.

[Dragonfli]

1. Count me in, she has so much blood on her hands, no matter how many times she yells

"out damn spot!", she remains drenched in it.

With war, and evermore war, with refugee children, with voting to use child killing cluster bombs, with selling cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia to be used on innocents....

It is a torrent, a river of blood..

[Luminous Animal]

2. Thank you, Dragonfli. Because that is what the Cinco de Mayo protest was about.

[snot]

16. Wow, great clip!

[Dragonfli]

17. Great actress! /nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

3. Check. I'm glad these issues are being raised.

[Luminous Animal]

5. Apparently. If a Bernie supporter shows up, those issue are void.

[VOX]

4. Please clap. n/t

[JaneyVee]

7. A bit hyperbolic. Tone it down. Its rhetoric like this that incites violence.

"Blood on your hands!".

Sorry, but Hillary never killed anybody. And Bernie voted for more wars and war funding than anyone else running on either side. And that doesnt even get into his gun votes.

Give it a rest. Hillary is our nominee. You can either be miserable and bitter for 8 years, or you can do what you can to make the world a better place. Your choice.

[Luminous Animal]

8. As if policy does not kill. Berta herself held Hillary responsible. Answer to Berta.

[JaneyVee]

14. So then by your own logic, Bernie has more blood on his hands than...

Anyone running on either side. Do you agree with your own logic?

[virtualobserver]

26. what a ridiculous assertion

[pnwmom]

21. And maybe Berta was wrong. What do you think Hillary and Obama should have done?

They applied sanctions, and called for elections. Should they have applied military force, to force the courts and legislature to allow Zelaya to come back?

What did Bernie advocate? I googled but I couldn't find any mention of what he thought we should be doing after the coup. It's hard to believe he would have advocated military intervention, though.

Just because Berta was murdered years later doesn't mean she was right about Hillary's actions after the coup.

[Android3.14]

9. You will say anything

No one actually believes you.

[jillan]

11. Tell that to the people of Honduras - they definitely believe she has blood on her hands.

http://www.thenation.com/article/chronicle-of-a-honduran-assassination-foretold/

Before Her Murder, Berta Cáceres Singled Out Hillary Clinton

Have you ever bothered to read about how Hillary's actions as SoS harmed, and even killed, the people in Honduras and Haiti?
Or do you not even care about other human beings?

[shenmue]

12. Don't expect decency from these people

[Hortensis]

18. +1, JaneyVee, but I doubt they can.

Even those emotionally capable may have way too much invested by now in believing this stuff.

[jaded_old_cynic]

10. For transparency's sake, I was juror #2

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This post borders on violent threats against the likely Democratic nominee and anyone attending her rallies. These RW smears about how Hillary is supposedly guilty of murder and killing children is EXACTLY the type of rhetoric that causes fervent believers to bomb clinics and harass women who walk into them.

These protests did the same and this poster is threatening more such violent harassment planned. Please hide these violent and violence inducing posts. This does not belong anywhere an it is dangerous. Especially considering just how unhinged people seem to be getting with the lies calling the candidate a blood covered child murderer.

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[pnwmom]

13. What should the Obama administration have done after the coup? Send in the military?

Would there have been Congressional support for that?

Bernie isn't blaming Hillary for the coup, and he doesn't think we should be the policeman of the world.

So why are his supporters mad at Hillary for not intervening with force?

And, no, Hillary had nothing to do with Berta's death 7 years later.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-latin-america/

BERNIE SANDERS ON LATIN AMERICA

Bernie Sanders believes the United States should not involve itself in the governments of other countries, even if officials in charge do not agree with the other countries’ left-leaning principles.

[Hortensis]

19. The worst of these are angry with her because they've not

been able to destroy her. Her supposed evil is now a major frame on which their whole "understanding" of contemporary political events is built.

This explanation of one dangerous and disastrous syndrome immediately made me think of on-line political forums such as this one when I read it.

WARNING: Political forums can be bad for your mental health?

Convergence refers to an individual's tendency to become more similar to members of any group they're in and this is something that is noted across the board – even your language tends to become more similar. As such if you identify strongly with a group such as a political party, you will unconsciously become more like them and this will cause you to become gradually more zealous.

Divergence meanwhile is the tendency for any group to become less similar to other groups that they know of in order presumably to forge a clearer identity and to differentiate themselves. This then means that a political party or a fan club or a religious group is likely to gradually become more and more diverse from others and this will mean coming up with more and more 'out there' concepts which the whole group is likely to agree with due to the convergence principle.

At the same time this groupthink can also lead to a dehumanizing aspect where members of opposing belief systems start to seem less like real and important people (we are able to empathise more with people more like us). In turn this can result in an 'us and them' mentality that history has proven can lead to horrendous acts of violence and even genocide.

http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/16426/1/The-Psychology-of-Extremism.html

[Joob]

15. I'll Protest the things she's done, not her supporters though.

Got to remember to protest the issues, not people who had nothing to do with it. It's more effective that way.

[me b zola]

20. K&R

[joshcryer]

22. Shameful.

[Mnpaul]

25. Is nothing Hillary's fault?

Nice double standard there. Hillary is responsible for nothing and Bernie is responsible for everyone who utters his name. The people who support this policy bear more responsibility than Bernie. They need to reel their candidate in and quit blaming everyone else for her failures.

[XemaSab]

29. She's the most qualified candidate ever!

Just because there were about 10 foreign policy clusterfucks when she was SoS doesn't make her less qualified!

You're probably a sexist and a secret Trump supporter!

[katsy]

27. I'm in.

If we were smart we'd work to tear down our borders for all N & S America, single payer healthcare & hold employers responsible should they not be paying workers at least minimum wage. Any business can't make it paying good wages to employees should shut the fuck down anyway because they are the real "welfare queens" as st. ronnie would say.

[amborin]

28. Berta, all Honduras, Libya, Colombia, Syria

[Broward]

30. Hillary Clinton is a repugnant, corruptible human being.

[Uncle Joe]

31. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Luminous Animal.