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Hillary blowing Bernie away in Reuters national tracking poll 67%-30% (Original Post) DCBob May 2016 OP
Note that this isn't who they *want* to be the nominee, but who they *perceive* will be the nominee. w4rma May 2016 #1
The poll refers to whom they would vote for. DCBob May 2016 #4
"The poll refers to whom they would vote for. Not sure what you are talking about." DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #5
Interesting point. bvf May 2016 #7
The filter is "likely Democratic primary voter"... DCBob May 2016 #8
If the measure is perception rather than preference, bvf May 2016 #14
It's not perception.. it's voter preference. DCBob May 2016 #29
Are all the remaining primaries closed? bvf May 2016 #31
I dont get your question? DCBob May 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author bvf May 2016 #34
Maybe it's me. bvf May 2016 #36
I believe "likely Democratic primary voters" includes all voters regardless of party affiliation. DCBob May 2016 #37
The remaining primaries Demsrule86 May 2016 #38
You've managed to contradict yourself bvf May 2016 #39
I wonder if "likely Democratic primary voter" includes those who have already voted. thesquanderer May 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #12
Brilliant. bvf May 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #19
Can't deny that that's precisely what it shows bvf May 2016 #22
Gwynne Dyer: The other Clinton presidency bemildred May 2016 #2
Commentary: By lecturing Trump, Obama pulls his weight in reality show bemildred May 2016 #3
For those who choose to live in reality, Hillary is the presumptive Democratic nominee. Trust Buster May 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #11
Nope. bvf May 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #27
Happy Mother's Day, btw. bvf May 2016 #32
Keep the good news coming, but let's NOT get complacent! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #9
Indeed.. Keep the pressure on. DCBob May 2016 #10
Nothing says "complacency" bvf May 2016 #18
Country is on GE mode Demsrule86 May 2016 #16
Indeed.. its time to move on. DCBob May 2016 #17
Decided by the media, more like it. intheflow May 2016 #20
And, if I purchased a Powerball ticket last night I would have won. grossproffit May 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #28
Oh dear. This will come as a great shock to those living in La La Land. grossproffit May 2016 #21
Wow!! workinclasszero May 2016 #24
KNR ~ Thank you! Lucinda May 2016 #25
I don't put much into this tracking poll but... Renew Deal May 2016 #26
Read 'em and weep. NurseJackie May 2016 #30
Not even close anymore KingFlorez May 2016 #40
 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
1. Note that this isn't who they *want* to be the nominee, but who they *perceive* will be the nominee.
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:33 AM
May 2016

Whether by hook or by crook.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
7. Interesting point.
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:48 AM
May 2016

If you clear the filter on the page, the picture changes drastically.

In that case, it's a dead heat at 40.1% each.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
8. The filter is "likely Democratic primary voter"...
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:50 AM
May 2016

which is the correct filter for polling regarding the Democratic nominee.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
14. If the measure is perception rather than preference,
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:56 AM
May 2016

then it's valid to point out the swing.

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bvf

(6,604 posts)
36. Maybe it's me.
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:28 PM
May 2016

Does "likely Democratic primary voter" refer to all voters, regardless of party affiliation, who intend to vote in the primaries, or only to those declaring D affiliation?

Seems to be the latter, since adding D to the default filter (LDPV) didn't change the numbers.

Hence my question about open primaries.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
37. I believe "likely Democratic primary voters" includes all voters regardless of party affiliation.
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:34 PM
May 2016

At least that is my understanding. I have to admit that poll and the filtering is a bit weird.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
38. The remaining primaries
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:27 PM
May 2016

are not significant as she has already won...she will reach the insurmountable number of delegates by California ...and maybe sooner.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
39. You've managed to contradict yourself
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:21 PM
May 2016

in a single sentence.* If she hasn't reached an insurmountable number of delegates--which may not be clear until votes are cast in Philadelphia--she can't be said to have won.

If this is a done deal the way so many people are maintaining, I'm at a loss to explain the recent spate of posts insisting that that's truly the case. If I thought my candidate had things wrapped up at this point, I'd be enjoying myself in the Science and Religion Groups, marveling at amazing insects and quantum physics, among other things.

There seems to be an awful lot of whistling in the dark going on around here among Clinton supporters, especially those constantly importuning Skinner and telling him how to run his website. I'm sure he enjoys that.




*At least I think it was single sentence. It's hard to tell with people who use ellipses like a crutch. Don't take that personally. You're not alone there.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
35. I wonder if "likely Democratic primary voter" includes those who have already voted.
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:20 PM
May 2016

At this point, the poll would be most useful if it were restricted to states that had not yet voted, I wonder if they take that into account in the rolling dates.

Regardless, what Sanders needs to do to have even a narrow shot is to motivate new people to register to vote for him, in the states where that can still be done (esp. CA). And these people would presumably not be reflected in polls of likely voters so far.

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bvf

(6,604 posts)
22. Can't deny that that's precisely what it shows
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:12 AM
May 2016

across the board.

Your remarks are hereby promoted to "scintillating."

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. Gwynne Dyer: The other Clinton presidency
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:36 AM
May 2016

Shortly before John Kasich dropped out of the race for the Republican presidential nomination, leaving Donald Trump as the only candidate, the Ohio governor put up a spoof video on the Internet. Modelled on the old-fashioned intro that scrolls up the screen at the start of each Star Wars movie, it envisioned a future in which Trump won the candidacy, lost the presidential election, and left Hillary Clinton triumphant.

Titled 'Our Only Hope', Kasich's video began: "Upon defeating Donald Trump in the largest landslide since Reagan in 1984, President Hillary Clinton is preparing to name her newest Supreme Court justice, Elizabeth Warren. (House) Speaker Nancy Pelosi is planning new tax hikes, hoping that Senate President Chuck Schumer and his new Democratic majority can swiftly get it to the president's desk for her signature.

"New executive orders restricting the Second Amendment are being drafted, while increased federal spending on Obamacare is readied. Meanwhile, our allies across the world are swiftly losing faith in America's role as a global leader, empowering our enemies and leaving America in a more dangerous position. But we have hope it can be different ... ."

It was a roll call of all the nightmarish things that Republicans fear a Clinton presidency would do: create a 'liberal' majority on the Supreme Court, raise taxes, bring in gun control, and spend more money on health care for poor Americans. Kasich, of course, was the 'Only Hope' to prevent this disaster. (It was his video, after all.)

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/focus/20160508/gwynne-dyer-other-clinton-presidency

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. Commentary: By lecturing Trump, Obama pulls his weight in reality show
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:37 AM
May 2016

by Xinhua Writer Tian Dongdong

BEIJING, May 8 (Xinhua) -- By lecturing Donald Trump, a near-lock Republican presidential nominee and archrival of his party's front-runner Hillary Clinton, about the seriousness of U.S. presidency, President Barack Obama has pulled his weight in the general election.

However, his wording used to defend the "seriousness" of the White House has decayed the credibility of his lecture, because the presidential election is anything but serious. In other words, the election has become a reality show.

Choosing a president for the world's most powerful country does give the election some inborn nature of seriousness. However, the way its players run it did -- if not all -- turn one of the smartest design in U.S. history into a reality show, which is full of money politics, verbal confrontation and plot reversals.

Money alone surely cannot guarantee the ticket for the White House, but without money you don't even have the chance to start the journey.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-05/08/c_135342496.htm

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bvf

(6,604 posts)
18. Nothing says "complacency"
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:03 AM
May 2016

quite like people insisting ad nauseam on using words like "presumptive," and "over."

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
16. Country is on GE mode
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:59 AM
May 2016

Time to end the self- serving primary Bernie...do the right thing with grace and dignity.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
17. Indeed.. its time to move on.
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:00 AM
May 2016

Bernie is liable to burn alot bridges if he forces this all the way to the convention.

intheflow

(28,473 posts)
20. Decided by the media, more like it.
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:07 AM
May 2016

If Bernie had gotten half the attention Trump did, he'd be our candidate instead of the woman who still continues to have the highest unfavorable ratings of any candidate in modern history.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/

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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
24. Wow!!
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:19 AM
May 2016

Who knew that screaming mobs verbally attacking children wouldn't go over well with the public?

Hillary is going to be a great President!

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
26. I don't put much into this tracking poll but...
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:28 AM
May 2016

Look at that trend line. Trump clinching it could push voters to rally around Hillary. I think WV is going to be close. It's not like Bernie is any more favorable on coal issues.

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