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pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:06 PM May 2016

Bernie Sanders Blasts Hillary Clinton for Seeking Funds from Bush Donors

Bernie Sanders has just called out Hillary Clinton for attempting to solicit donations from Republican donors for her presidential campaign, issuing a dire warning that his supporters will not tolerate these questionable fundraising tactics.

“Those are the kinds of things that make not only my supporters, but millions of Americans, nervous,” Sanders said today on PBS NewsHour.

<snip>

“By the way, as I understand it, [Clinton] is now reaching out to Jeb Bush’s fundraisers in order to raise money from them,” said Sanders. “And that really casts a doubt on the parts of millions of Americans. Are you really going to stand up for the middle and working class when you’re collecting millions from Jeb Bush supporters?”

After portraying herself campaign in the primaries as a progressive crusader, Clinton is now trying to appear more conservative to appeal to Republicans who are disgusted by Trump’s radical rhetoric. However, this inconsistency may alienate both groups.
GOP donor Gregory Slayton agrees with Sanders:

“There’s nothing that will hurt her more with the Bernie Sanders/Bill De Blasio/Elizabeth Warren wing of the party than aligning herself with Wall Street.”

http://usuncut.com/politics/sanders-calls-out-clinton-gop-donations/

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Bernie Sanders Blasts Hillary Clinton for Seeking Funds from Bush Donors (Original Post) pdsimdars May 2016 OP
He should mind his own losing campaign. Trust Buster May 2016 #1
She is just collecting on their debt to her for helping sell the I-War. They made lots of rhett o rick May 2016 #23
Let her have her GOP votes, she wont get mine. Baobab May 2016 #72
Suspicions confirmed. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #2
Her tent already includes conservatives like Kissinger and Richard Perile. Her tent isn't big rhett o rick May 2016 #24
She Triangulating back to her base...a bit early, though. nt silvershadow May 2016 #3
Good job Bernie! Joob May 2016 #4
I'm glad Bernie is calling this out Hydra May 2016 #5
The hypocrisy of Sanders. Consistently. Libertarians, baggers, put wedge issues to the side, seabeyond May 2016 #6
Anarchist, ... "the" establishment. Three decades in politics. seabeyond May 2016 #7
Anti war, Having voted for every military vote but one. And continue the drones. seabeyond May 2016 #8
Green party, dumping in Latino community in Texas. seabeyond May 2016 #9
LOL. You want to discuss "important" issues? Since when? rhett o rick May 2016 #25
Oh, like dangerous environmental practices, or more war???? seekthetruth May 2016 #38
Like Hillary being in favor of continuing the War on Some Drugs? eridani May 2016 #85
The truth will set you free ... but first it will piss you off! ebayfool May 2016 #10
Just shows once again what an amateur Sanders is, and what a narrow stopbush May 2016 #11
Yet even worse. You are right, but Sanders does it himself. He rationalizes it though and does not seabeyond May 2016 #16
He wants the Trump votes as much as she does. bettyellen May 2016 #28
He wants the little people who are supporting Trump, not the big money people n/t eridani May 2016 #83
Poor BS. He is still in a primary campaign he has already lost. DURHAM D May 2016 #19
He's stuck in NH, as are his followers. stopbush May 2016 #20
She is showing her true colors. The Oligarchy via Goldman-Sachs and Koch Bros rhett o rick May 2016 #27
Have you noticed the general election matchup? anigbrowl May 2016 #43
Yeah, it's brilliant RoccoR5955 May 2016 #53
Yawn. stopbush May 2016 #54
You need to go to bed if you are going to rudely yawn. n/t RoccoR5955 May 2016 #55
I'll stop yawning when Sanders quits the race. stopbush May 2016 #57
Your username is stopbush... retrowire May 2016 #70
I guess these days is over Armstead May 2016 #59
She isn't reaching out to working class Trump supporters. She is reaching out to big money eridani May 2016 #82
"... her very progressive platform" Warren DeMontague May 2016 #84
Said while living in the BS vacuum. You know, you could stopbush May 2016 #87
Dude, find the straw sanders supporter you have living in your head, and tell it to him. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #89
Shorter Bernie: I need some attention! Look over here! nt BootinUp May 2016 #12
He disgusts me. grossproffit May 2016 #62
Flagrantly telling the public that her base is Wall Street. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #13
Why would they want Bush people in their tent? That has always been the goal of the Clinton's DLC Dragonfli May 2016 #21
An excellent post, Dragonfli. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #26
You're welcome, the links provided in the post are also informative. /nt Dragonfli May 2016 #30
It's the Third Way. The Left supports social justice issues plus a fair economy and rhett o rick May 2016 #29
A perfect Definition. /nt Dragonfli May 2016 #31
Why wouldn't they want as many votes as they can get Demsrule86 May 2016 #68
Sometimes votes are not worth the cost, such as neo-nazi votes, or votes that would kill the poor Dragonfli May 2016 #73
Sanders is a hypocrite Buzz cook May 2016 #14
Bullshit. He convinces them to support progressive ideas. She agrees with their conservative ideas. arcane1 May 2016 #34
Dog shit. Buzz cook May 2016 #65
Exactly oppoiste. . . He wins them with HIS issues, and SHE convinces them she's with THEIR values pdsimdars May 2016 #45
And what are republican values? Buzz cook May 2016 #66
What a steaming load. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #78
What a dripping load Buzz cook May 2016 #79
Didn't Bush for President 2000 donate to Ralph Nader's campaign? azurnoir May 2016 #15
The conservatives and neocons love Clinton and will gladly support her in the rhett o rick May 2016 #33
Makes sense for Clinton. hollowdweller May 2016 #17
You are correct regarding most of your remarks Dragonfli May 2016 #22
Some Jeb supporters don't want our country run my a reality TV show actor... moriah May 2016 #18
heck, I recommend that she picks up his pollsters, media handlers, and campaign strategists! MisterP May 2016 #32
She already has appeared to have picked up his brothers "election fraud specialists" err I mean tech Dragonfli May 2016 #75
bad decision after bad decision is all I see from Hillary. litlbilly May 2016 #35
Kind of points to what ive said earlier. She is broke and cant find anyone to donate. litlbilly May 2016 #36
Judgement beats "experience" --- seems like Bernie always gets it right and Hillary always wrong pdsimdars May 2016 #46
He won't be complaining when she pays off his debt KingFlorez May 2016 #37
He doesn't have debt and he pays his bills to local police. oldandhappy May 2016 #42
Goodness... LenaBaby61 May 2016 #39
Dont't worry your little head, that time hasn't come. pdsimdars May 2016 #47
I imagine it will be much quieter. I for one won't be lurking/posting here if she wins. floppyboo May 2016 #86
The Bushes and Clintons are a happy family Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #40
clinton is a right-leaning centrist and will make an excellent candidate oldandhappy May 2016 #41
BERNIE is just sorry he didn't think of it first trueblue2007 May 2016 #44
He has consioucly avoided selling out his entire career. pdsimdars May 2016 #48
This only confirms what I already knew. 99Forever May 2016 #49
Its going to hit a lot of her supporters hard when she sells them out. The WTO will pretend to be Baobab May 2016 #74
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #50
K and r nt Rebkeh May 2016 #51
She is who and what she is. This only confirms it. We are all fucked. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #52
How very Republican of her. nt nc4bo May 2016 #56
Hillary is more Republican than Trump is. We live in bizarro world. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #58
I think I've heard people say that Trump has been pretty liberal most of his life. pdsimdars May 2016 #60
He is. He's hijacked the Republican party. I would never vote for him or support him but he's taking ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #64
I grew up in the East Coast...my Dad Demsrule86 May 2016 #69
Bernie is getting really grouchy. kstewart33 May 2016 #61
He's as nasty as they come and he's getting worse... grossproffit May 2016 #63
The kindler and gentler Bern not Demsrule86 May 2016 #67
I disagree. Good for Hillary to try to get whatever she can from them. Beacool May 2016 #71
DITTO. Suspicions Confirmed Seeinghope May 2016 #76
This IS who Hillary Clinton is and always has been. pangaia May 2016 #77
I just read that she has gotten more money from Wall Street than all other candidates combined. pdsimdars May 2016 #80
It's the independent voters Hillary supporters hate, but embrace republican voters as worthy. B Calm May 2016 #81
It is creepy. CobaltBlue May 2016 #88
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
23. She is just collecting on their debt to her for helping sell the I-War. They made lots of
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:36 PM
May 2016

cash on that war.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
72. Let her have her GOP votes, she wont get mine.
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:17 PM
May 2016

HRC is a gamer who has gamed herself out of Americas trust.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
24. Her tent already includes conservatives like Kissinger and Richard Perile. Her tent isn't big
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:37 PM
May 2016

enough for progressives.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
5. I'm glad Bernie is calling this out
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:47 PM
May 2016

This will probably be the event that breaks the party. When Bushco is invited in as official members, that will be the end of everything DU stood for and what many of us fought from 2000 on.

We are NOT the party of the 1%.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. The hypocrisy of Sanders. Consistently. Libertarians, baggers, put wedge issues to the side,
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:50 PM
May 2016

lets discuss the important issues.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
25. LOL. You want to discuss "important" issues? Since when?
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:46 PM
May 2016

I agree that Sanders should expose the hypocrisy of the Clinton campaign that pretends to be liberal but are very close to the Bush Family. They appreciate her help with little Georgie's War in 2002.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
38. Oh, like dangerous environmental practices, or more war????
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

....or are you guys blind to that as well?

eridani

(51,907 posts)
85. Like Hillary being in favor of continuing the War on Some Drugs?
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:18 AM
May 2016

Or the ongoing murder of environmental activists in Honduras?

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
10. The truth will set you free ... but first it will piss you off!
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:55 PM
May 2016

She's doing exactly what some of us thought she would. Diving right back where she started ... to the right. And not wasting any time about it. She must be running out of cash if she's sinking that low.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
11. Just shows once again what an amateur Sanders is, and what a narrow
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:57 PM
May 2016

view he has of the real world.

Hillary reaching out to Jeb supporters is a brilliant tactical move. Even if she doesn't get a single $ from them, she is sending a signal about how confident she is in her ensuing victory and in her ability to reach out to voters across the aisle. It is a calculated dissing of both Trump and the Rs in general, who typically fall in line behind their nominee, but who are in open revolt this year. It's telling Rs they have a place to cast their vote if they're of the No Trump mindset. Who more represents the R establishment than Jeb? She's hitting the Rs and the RNC right in their guts.

Sanders' approach to and understanding of politics is so naive that he can't even imagine what Hillary is doing. He sees it only through his Johnny One Note "them against us" prism that has driven his campaign from Day One. He actually believes that Rs donating to Hillary would influence her to change her very progressive platform.

Just another Sanders head shaker. Slow on the uptake and blinded by a worldview stuck in the myopia of small-state politics and an outdated political outlook. If you weren't convinced before that Sanders would have been a disaster as the D nominee, look no further than this latest example of his linear thinking.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
16. Yet even worse. You are right, but Sanders does it himself. He rationalizes it though and does not
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

see he does exactly the same. He has convinced himself doing it is righteous.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
19. Poor BS. He is still in a primary campaign he has already lost.
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:14 PM
May 2016

Hillary is obviously in a general and not terribly interested in him.






BS is soooooo last February.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
20. He's stuck in NH, as are his followers.
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:21 PM
May 2016

How else to explain their belief that he still has a shot at the nomination?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
27. She is showing her true colors. The Oligarchy via Goldman-Sachs and Koch Bros
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:49 PM
May 2016

said the like either Clinton or Bush. Now Bush is out, they like Clinton. The Bush Family is close to the Clinton Family and share ideologies. In the General Clinton will show the Republicons that she is really one of them.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
43. Have you noticed the general election matchup?
Sun May 8, 2016, 05:06 PM
May 2016

It appears that she's running against a quasi-fascist platform led by Donald Freaking Trump. I am just fine with her taking money from the Koch brothers and who all else in order to defeat an incipient fascist movement. Politics has always made strange bedfellows, like the US & UK teaming up with the Stalinist USSR to defeat Nazi Germany. It does not follow that FDR and Churchhill were fans of Stalin.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
53. Yeah, it's brilliant
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:19 PM
May 2016

for her to move to the right, after going to the left to nearly gain the nomination. I wonder how far to the right she will move if she gets nominated? How many of her promises that she made to progressives will be broken in order to get RepubliCONs to vote for her?
Just another third way kowtowing to the Right as usual, if you ask me.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
70. Your username is stopbush...
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:11 PM
May 2016

But bush money supporting your candidate is an issue you yawn about.....

XD

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
59. I guess these days is over
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:26 PM
May 2016

What if her brilliant plan backfires and they give her lots of money?

eridani

(51,907 posts)
82. She isn't reaching out to working class Trump supporters. She is reaching out to big money
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:05 AM
May 2016

--Republicans. The same people who have been fucking us over for 30 years.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
87. Said while living in the BS vacuum. You know, you could
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:28 AM
May 2016

visit her website and read her policy proposals for yourself. But that would mean having to give up your willful ignorance of her policies.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
89. Dude, find the straw sanders supporter you have living in your head, and tell it to him.
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:55 PM
May 2016

I've read her website, Chief.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
13. Flagrantly telling the public that her base is Wall Street.
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:00 PM
May 2016

She says she shares the Bush donors' values:



She said when somebody tells you who they are, believe them. Yup, nice of Hilly to spell out for us who she represents, in case any weren't clear on that.

She's the 2.0 model of the Billionaires' Billary.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
29. It's the Third Way. The Left supports social justice issues plus a fair economy and
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:52 PM
May 2016

no wars for profits. The Right doesn't support social justice issues, nor a fair economy and loves wars for profits. The Third pretends to support social justice issues but agree with the Right on economy and wars. Clinton is clearly The Third Way.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
68. Why wouldn't they want as many votes as they can get
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:01 PM
May 2016

So no only pure voters can vote for a Democrat and give money so says King Bernie...

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
73. Sometimes votes are not worth the cost, such as neo-nazi votes, or votes that would kill the poor
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:23 PM
May 2016

to reduce the population.

One needs votes, yes, but if one wants to do good one should avoid the need and expectations of the votes of those with evil intent.

Others disagree, and would sell the very lives of others for just a few votes, such people are often referred to as sociopaths because thy clinically are.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
14. Sanders is a hypocrite
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:00 PM
May 2016

He and his camp have been telling us how attractive he is to disaffected republican voters, betting at the same time he could keep his campaign running on the $27 he gets from those same republicans.

Republican money is republican money, except it's good money when Sanders gets it and bad money when Clinton gets it.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
34. Bullshit. He convinces them to support progressive ideas. She agrees with their conservative ideas.
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:03 PM
May 2016

A huge difference that every honest person admits.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
65. Dog shit.
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:40 PM
May 2016

Sanders hits them with the same Nationalistic, protectionist, anti-immigrant crap that Trump panders to them with.

End Nafta, just like Trump.

Close the borders, just like Trump.

High tariffs, just like Trump.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
45. Exactly oppoiste. . . He wins them with HIS issues, and SHE convinces them she's with THEIR values
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

Night and day.





.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
66. And what are republican values?
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:57 PM
May 2016

What are their claims? Most of what they claim is pretty good, it's the reality of what they actually do that sucks.

Pro-family that's a claimed republican value. I also am pro-family. The difference is that the republicans have done what they could to weaken the family. But I share their claimed value. I bet Clinton "and" Sanders do as well.

Being pro-life is a claimed republican value as well. I'm pro-life and I bet Sanders and Clinton are as well. But the actions of the republicans are decidedly anti-life and cause more abortions than they stop while increasing misery. By helping women to have access to reproductive health care, including abortion, democrats are effectively more pro-life.

Religious liberty heck I'm an atheist and I support religious liberty. But once again the claimed value runs right into the actions of republicans. Clinton and Sanders have both said their for religius freedom.

So saying Clinton appeals to republican values is a meaningless statement. There are three republican values that both Sanders and Clinton agree on.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
78. What a steaming load.
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:23 PM
May 2016

Those "disaffected Republican voters" Bernie is talking about are working class stiffs who are finally coming around to to how they've been fucked over by their corporate masters for decades. I could care less how they are registered if they're waking up.

Hillary, on the other hand, is going after wealthy Bush donors...and if you don't see the difference, then you have my deepest sympathies.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
79. What a dripping load
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:47 PM
May 2016

What is Sanders promising the republican working class that Clinton is not.

The more republican donors give to Clinton the less they give to Trump.

Those "disaffected Republican voters" Bernie is talking about are

Supporting Trump

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
33. The conservatives and neocons love Clinton and will gladly support her in the
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:59 PM
May 2016

General rather than the loose cannon Trump.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
17. Makes sense for Clinton.
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:10 PM
May 2016

I think we are seeing a remake of the parties.

Clinton will keep the democratic party pro choice and socially liberal while picking up the Wall Street, business and country club vote.

Trump will keep the GOP socially conservative but pick up the blue collar, union populist vote.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
18. Some Jeb supporters don't want our country run my a reality TV show actor...
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:11 PM
May 2016

.... who insulted St. Reagan and his wife repeatedly, has a dangerous economic policy (heavy deficit spending combined with seeking haircut defaults on many of our existing debts to foreign countries), an insane tax policy that can only be paid for by cuts all remaining Democrats in the Senate would break fillibuster records to oppose, and who, since he just now became a "Republican" after sharing views and giving money more to Dems than Republicans, they don't trust to keep promises on the social issues that matter to them.

There IS a gigantic #NeverTrump faction. Making her case to them is sound strategy to, even if it doesn't get her their money or even their votes, keep them from coming out just to stop her.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
32. heck, I recommend that she picks up his pollsters, media handlers, and campaign strategists!
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:54 PM
May 2016

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please clap

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
75. She already has appeared to have picked up his brothers "election fraud specialists" err I mean tech
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:39 PM
May 2016

advisers specializing in "voter change dynamics" and black box programmers.

So why not? in for a Bush penny, in for a Bush pound, as my dog always says (or what I thing she might be saying as I don't speak canine).

She actually (and I am not joking or making this up) growls and barks a little whenever Hillary does that laugh thing that some have described as a "cackling sound". Or perhaps she is just responding to various dog whistles spoken by her.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
37. He won't be complaining when she pays off his debt
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:09 PM
May 2016

And I'm sure he will have plenty of it at the end of this run. With that said, Clinton doesn't have to change a thing about her platform to get these donors to help out. They hate Trump more than they do Clinton, so it really is putting them in a lesser of two evils spot.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
39. Goodness...
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:31 PM
May 2016

It's getting nastier around here by the second .

I can just imagine how it'll be when/if Hillary Clinton secures the Democratic nomination for the presidency.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
86. I imagine it will be much quieter. I for one won't be lurking/posting here if she wins.
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:51 AM
May 2016

well, maybe lurking every now and then...

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
40. The Bushes and Clintons are a happy family
Sun May 8, 2016, 04:33 PM
May 2016

I expect they want to defeat Trump. They are all as bad as each other

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
48. He has consioucly avoided selling out his entire career.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:25 PM
May 2016

It's always like that with people who are morally inferior, they think that others think like them. Well, they don't.




.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
49. This only confirms what I already knew.
Sun May 8, 2016, 06:29 PM
May 2016

Hillary Clinton is a neoliberal Republican pretending to be a Democrat.


Surprise?


Oh fuck no. Anyone with even a minimally functional brain saw this coming.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
74. Its going to hit a lot of her supporters hard when she sells them out. The WTO will pretend to be
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:25 PM
May 2016

the bad guy.

Slick, huh? She's such a gamer.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
64. He is. He's hijacked the Republican party. I would never vote for him or support him but he's taking
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:31 PM
May 2016

the Republicans for a joy ride. He and Hillary are good friends after all. They deserve each other.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
69. I grew up in the East Coast...my Dad
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:06 PM
May 2016

worked in the same circles as Trump. He is really really bad...he is a con man...he is not liberal.You walk a dangerous line...very close to advocating for Trump. Don't got there. He is a really bad choice and completely unqualified...he bankrupted so many people in New York and Connecticut...the only thing that is worth a dime these days is the Trump name. Also, I have to wonder if he is starting to get a bit senile...if you watch his speeches. The signs are there. No way he should have access to nukes...not in a million years and if that means courting the GOP then so be it.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
67. The kindler and gentler Bern not
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:59 PM
May 2016

I guess they are not nervous enough to vote for you Bern. She has beat you...now sashay away. No lip sync for life for you Bern.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
71. I disagree. Good for Hillary to try to get whatever she can from them.
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:16 PM
May 2016

Better the money going to a Democrat than to Trump. I also hope that she convinces a portion of Republican voters to vote for her in the GE and not the narcissistic carnival barker.



 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
80. I just read that she has gotten more money from Wall Street than all other candidates combined.
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:24 AM
May 2016

How obvious does it have to be for some people? For God's sake!

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