The saddest thing about his supporters is they acknowledge the fact that he won't win.

[trumad]

Nuff said.

[Duckhunter935]

1. He has a better shot against Drumf

[grossproffit]

5. Yet, he's losing to her. How exactly does that work.

Rhetorical question.

[Duckhunter935]

11. It's called closed votes

Unlike the primaries, independents can vote for president. I know it was rhetorical but...

[oberliner]

14. AL, AR, GA, IL, MS, SC, TN, VA, TX all had open primaries

Hillary won all of them.

[Fawke Em]

23. And only ONE of those states will go blue in November. eom

I know. I live in one of the red ones.

[grossproffit]

31. Right! Bernie wins swing states like UT, AK, KS, NE, OK & ID!

[Trenzalore]

43. Probably 2

Illinois and Virginia.

Of course Utah is destined to go blue if bernie is the nominee

[KingFlorez]

15. Clinton won more open primaries

10 of them in fact.

[Demsrule86]

46. Ohio is an open primary as well

You go to vote and they ask you which ballot you want.

[Rass]

54. Let's count the ways:

Hillary has a few things that are helpful to her campaign:

* less coverage of Bernie by corporate media (Bernie is a threat to their self-interests)
* Dishonesty: party infiltration
* More dishonesty: Election fraud
* superPACs
* paid Internet trolls
* Democratic party rigging the system
* The Establishment likes her

Even after everything, Bernie still poses a viable threat to her candidacy. Time is on his side as more people learn about him through non-mainstream channels. After all of the shenanigans, he should take the gloves off and run as an independent if he loses the nomination.

[CorkySt.Clair]

64. It's over.

[oasis]

73. "As more people learn about him through non-mainstream channels"

The Sane Progressive seems to have plenty of time on her hands. Maybe she can double her current output.

[stone space]

18. It doesn't help Bernie to have his picture in a Zimmerman supporter's sigfile.

He has a better shot against Drumf

You aren't doing him any favors, here.

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[grossproffit]

2. His supporters are only following his lead.

[k8conant]

3. The best thing about his supporters is we acknowledge that he is the best presidential candidate

[grossproffit]

6. That's the best thing about her supporters as well. We know she's the best presidential candidate.

[griffi94]

19. This is the leap the Bernies supporters make that loses me

How can he be the best candidate if he can't win the primary.

Words mean things.

It's like saying I'm only 3feet tall, but that's really tall...if you change
what the word tall means.

Hillary has the most delegates and votes....but only if you use conventional
math to add those things up.

I have to hit the ATM in a couple of days because I only have about 30 dollars in my pocket...but if I had 300 hundred milillion dollars in pocket I'd be wealthy.

Yeah I guess if you're using your own personal definition of words then
Bernie would be the best candidate.

[k8conant]

21. Gelegates?? an apt description!

[griffi94]

24. Ah no argument so call out the typo police haha.

besides delegate can be spelled with a G ....same as 10 can be bigger than 100
and better can be applied to the guy in second place.

[Demsrule86]

47. Bernie lost

He will not have more pledged delegates...and supers will vote for the candidate that does...Hillary Clinton. I think Sanders would be a terrible GE candidate...lots of negatives would come out that would shock people.

[Fawke Em]

25. It's not a leap when you consider Independents.

They make up 43 percent of the electorate, but are frozen out of many of the primaries.

They like Bernie. They can't stand Hillary. They may go with Trump because they KNOW how awful she is. With him, they're not sure.

[griffi94]

29. 43% spread across the political spectrum

Indies aren't any more monolithic than any other group.

They're not all progressive. They include T-baggers who find the GOP too liberal
and moderates who find the both parties unacceptable but vote for the most moderate.

There was an OP up earlier about that very thing.

In 2004 Kerry won the Indies +5 and still lost.

No Bernies supporters are trying use new definitions of words to
imply something that reality isn't bearing out.

[Demsrule86]

48. who cares?

He lost ...end of story.

[bkkyosemite]

27. Rigged.

[griffi94]

32. Oh. So that's why the definition of words keeps getting moved around.

It's rigged.

Best means the candidate that came in second.
It means that because it's rigged.

Hillary won POC by a huge margin.
Because it's all rigged.

Women voted for her in huge numbers.
Rigged.

I think i'll try paying my rent with a 5 dollar bill and when they managment company won't let me I'll tell them it's rigged.

[Henhouse]

44. K&R

[uppityperson]

4. The saddest part about her supporters is that realize Bernie has a better chance of beating Trump

that she does.

[trumad]

33. But he can't beat Hillary

Makes no sense.

[99Forever]

41. On a level playing field he cleans her clock.

So she and her cronies cheat. You might consider that "winning," but those of us with integrity think it's pure unadulterated elephant shit.

[AzDar]

50. ^ This.

[uppityperson]

49. Unfortunately Trump can beat Hillary, though.

[baldguy]

7. And they can't acknowledge that he lies

even when provided with undeniable, overwhelming evidence. They just don't care. They can't be bothered with the fact that his greed for the office is harming the progressive cause, and helping the GOP. It's disgusting.

[grossproffit]

9. You hit the nail on the head with "They just don't care."

And neither does BS.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

26. Keep on building your arguments to vote for Hilly.

Right now I see this. Great work!

[trumad]

34. You see it...

No one else does except your clan.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

52. If you could read your posts, and frankly all the

warm-hearted posts , from center-right land you will see, if you wish to be honest, a lot of sore-winner posts.

I will be happy if Senator Sanders takes this all the way to the convention.

[Zen Democrat]

16. A Hillary supporter against greed for office? How rich! The progressive cause IS Bernie Sanders.

You are believing what you want to believe if you think Hillary won't govern Center-Right and sell us out on Social Security. She's better than Trump, but she's not up to par progressively on either domestic or foreign issues.

[Iliyah]

38. Ditto!

[frylock]

53. ..

[Ned_Devine]

8. The saddest thing about you is that you took the time to write this

[Hissyspit]

28. +1

I really hate this shit.

[Ned_Devine]

30. And this was written by someone...

...that's been on DU since 2001. I came here in January 2004 to get away from that type of thinking and here we are in 2016 and it's coming from people that are on "our side".

[trumad]

35. Ahh poor Ned...trumad gave him a sadz.

[Ned_Devine]

36. Right...

...the person referring to him/herself in the third person that uses a word like "sadz" has really drawn my ire. Just disappointed is all. It's ok though because I know the people that offer real substantive discussion here outnumber you immensely.

[pmorlan1]

39. He/She Just Likes Yanking

people's chains. They don't give a shit about issues they just like bullying other people and then laughing about it and bragging about it. It is what it is.

[Ned_Devine]

40. Yeah, that's how it seems

I'm hardly the most mature person in the world, but come on now. I mean, this is the kind of stuff elementary school kids might do. And not even the cool elementary school kids. What do I have to do? Block everyone? That just seems preposterous.

[pmorlan1]

45. Grade School is about right

Fortunately there are plenty of people to have a meaningful conversation with here that don't want to pull a chair out from under you just so they can be entertained. I haven't blocked anyone. I just ignore them.

By the way, nice to meet you.

[Ned_Devine]

60. Hey! Nice to meet you too!

[Warren Stupidity]

70. Another super amnesty benefit.

[hrmjustin]

10. The Saddest thing is he and some of his supporters think it is okay to

override the choice of the voters.

They want supers to vote forbhim even though HRC won more pledged delegates and popular votes.

[Thinkingabout]

12. He needed to win the nomination first and it did not happen. The polls have been skewed by RW

Wanting Sanders in the GE because he would be an easy target.

[Kall]

13. Did you change your opinions when Bush won?

Lieberman?

[Smarmie Doofus]

17. Who's "he"?

(If this is a private conversation I think you're in the wrong forum.)

[Android3.14]

20. See, that's just s bunch of bull shit.

He will win, if we live in a country for, of and by the peiople.

[Gothmog]

22. Denial is not just a river in Africa

[trumad]

37. No...that would be the Nile.

BSers!

[cherokeeprogressive]

42. This is a problem why.

[Databuser]

51. Yup!

Cause Bernie can kick his ass.

Hillary can't....

[frylock]

55. Maybe get outside and get some sunlight if you're feeling blue.

[bjo59]

56. The saddest thing about her supporters is that they can't come with a better reason to vote

for her than that "she is better than Trump." No, I don't acknowledge that Sanders won't win. I have patience, something that many, many in this country do not.

[Iliyah]

59. You haven't really read the DU when it comes to HRC supporters huh.

[mcranor]

57. There's nothing sad about his supporters.

Nuff said.

[pat_k]

58. The saddest thing is the many Clinton supporters...

... who just don't seem capable of getting what the Sanders campaign means to us:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511507143

[Ned_Devine]

61. That's it exactly

We really are two totally separate factions

[sadoldgirl]

62. I saw your post where you said that

you enjoy "tweaking" the SBS supporters.
A lot on your side seem to enjoy it too.

But then, we know by now that you won't
need our votes, because your candidate now
tries turning right, right, and right again, so
that she can win with the repugs.

If that assures her win in the GE, you and
the party have lost most of the millennials.

Congratulations to your strategy: We will
from then on ONE party, which belongs to the banks,
corporations and the MIC; definitely NOT to the
people.

[trumad]

63. Tweak

[morningfog]

65. The sad thing about you is you fail to see the value in his continuance of the race.

Fortunately, Hillary, Obamaand others aren't so short sighted.

[Agschmid]

66. I hate threads like this...

But I rec'd it for the sheer lunacy of it all.

[hellofromreddit]

67. I'm voting for a platform, not a person.

At this point I'd be really surprised if somehow Bernie wound up the nominee. But I'm still supporting his campaign because it promotes a solid platform.

No sadness needed.

[Logical]

68. LOL, this makes no fucking sense. What should they do, stop posting? Weird post. nt

[Lazy Daisy]

69. It's not about Bernie

He's just the messenger.

It's about us.

Nothing sad about that. Would be better if he did win, but we'll keep fighting either way. No more "pragmatism" or "incrementalism" Get it done, now.

[KingCharlemagne]

71. The saddest thing about her supporters is they support a war pig - nt

[Orsino]

72. Another goddamned "supporters" thread.

And an OP that displays a lack of knowledge as to what a convention is.