2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI was in the south last week
And in southwest Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama I saw no pro-Obama signs but plenty of hateful anti-Obama signs and pro-Rethug signs. It's clear that Obama and the Democrats are hated by the white racists who control those areas.
It will be fun picturing their heads exploding when Obama wins a second term next week (I hope).
Firebirds01
(576 posts)There everybody, I called him a troll so you dont have to do it now. First. I win the troll catching game that is so popular now. We can now go on to having a nice normal discussion without continuing the witch hunt or posting the snarky "thanks for your concern,"
Of course I am being facetious and dont really think the user is a troll.The troll paranoia on DU is killing any fruitful discussion and it needs to end.
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Stuckinthebush
(10,847 posts)Ignore him....
SubgeniusHasSlack
(276 posts)methinks.
I'm just sayin'. . .
lunatica
(53,410 posts)LOL!
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)where everyone has to show that they're quicker and smarter than anyone else by "outing" people that aren't even close to trolls.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... racists are not confined to southern states.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)We have had yard signs set on fire here in Ohio..And yes you are correct, it will be fun to see their heads explode come next Monday! We have to expect some sort of kicking and screaming from the media but in the end Obama will keep his job.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)unless you take them in at night, they will be gone by the next day! STEALING signs is NORMAL! I live in Florida & am told that we aren't the real south, but it happens here a LOT!
In my very Red county, I've seen so few Romney/Ryan or Obama/Biden Road signs. I wonder why, since this is Romney country! Yards signs, but very, very few road signs.
peace13
(11,076 posts)Go figure. I call that dangerous. One, they could have missed and hit the house. Two, they may decide that the piece of crap who put the sign up should feel the business end of the gun. I don't trust any of them!
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)So, yes, dangerous.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)I saw an Obama sign near the PO, almost NO Rmoney signs, a good number of Obama bumper stickers and only a handful of Rmoney ones.
The state will probably remain red in the Pres race, but there are Obama signs here in TN and many who will vote for Obama anyway.
Most of the signs here are for the Congressional races, and they are evenly divided between the parties.
Andy Stanton
(264 posts)Along with Utah and a few other western states. Romney will win some them by 20 or 30 percentage points. But it won't matter a bit if he loses most of the swing states, which I think he will.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)...I get to have a front-row seat to that show!
ffr
(22,671 posts)unhinged1
(20 posts)I'm a strait, white, upper middle class, non-college educated white male from Alabama who happens to be a progressive. I feel very lonely, to say the least.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,681 posts)You are among friends here, and I hope you won't feel lonely any more...
We welcome our progressive Southern members!
bama_blue_dot
(224 posts)I am part of a pro-choice group here in Alabama, but I am lonely too..
bama_blue_dot
(224 posts)I have an Obama yard sign in my yard, and three different Obama bumper stickers on my car.. I have actually seen a few bumper stickers out here, obviously you won't see tons of them.. I know one thing though.. I don't see any Romney bumper stickers, and the only yard signs I see are put out on the road by the Republican party.. In 2008 I saw tons of McCain stickers, and I am honestly surprised I don't see any really now..
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)I live in the Bham area and it's Rmoney city out here. Everyone at my work is all beside themselves about how the country is going to revolt if he is re-elected...
bama_blue_dot
(224 posts)It's about 2 1/2 hours north of Birmingham I think.. I am from NY originally though..
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)North Alabama is a little more blue than the rest, but still overwhelmingly red.
shayes51
(1,105 posts)I see almost as much for Obama as for Romney. It seemed like every other car had one of those W stickers, and many for McCain because they really loved Palin. Very few for RR. Not saying Obama will do well here. Just saying that the Repugnants are not crazy about Romney here.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)Southern baptists will back a puke but the will only do it because the other guy is black. Tuscaloosa has enough young people and progressives to make it a decent place, but when the W stickers were relevant it was rough. I lived there from 2004-09.
Roll Tide
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)And I saw a woman with an Obama/Biden button at the grocery store. Then I was behind a Mom in a minivan who had an Obama/Biden bumper sticker.
Then I drove through some neighborhoods and saw far more Obama signs than Romney signs and then I went to my house - you see I LIVE here in the South, in Tennessee - and saw my own Obama signs amongst my Halloween decorations.
What will be fun is when people on DU stop broad-brushing the 40-45 percent of Southerners who vote blue. THAT will be fun.
ncgrits
(916 posts)(give or take) for the last 52 years. And my family and all of my friends have been democrats all of our lives. And we have all managed, for all of those years, to NOT say that ALL of any particular group or nationality or region or gender or religion or political party are (fill in the pejorative of your choice here). Because that would be BIGOTED. Now wouldn't it?
Andy Stanton
(264 posts)But I can only say what I saw.
I'm sure there are some progressives in the South (I personally know two who live in Alabama) but the vast majority are nutcase Rethugs.
Lex
(34,108 posts)Andy Stanton
(264 posts)But not in southwest VA, Tennessee and Alabama as I don't live there.
Lex
(34,108 posts)do you mean to include black folks? Are they not about 25% or so of the population of many of the Southern states?
Andy Stanton
(264 posts)Romney is WAY ahead in the southern states. No, not every southerner is a nutcase Rethug, but most are. And in the case of white people, the vast majority are.
ncgrits
(916 posts)or any of the fine progressives working out of the Obama and Kaine offices in Abingdon, huh. You saw what you wanted to see. And then for whatever reason thought it would be "helpful" to post it.
At least we agree on one thing. That's bigotry. Bye.
iiibbb
(1,448 posts)You don't live here.
You don't visit here.
You know 2 people in Alabama.
Just go fuck yourself.
just said that in the first place!
Andy Stanton
(264 posts)ncgrits
(916 posts)And Happy Halloween!
cry baby
(6,682 posts)cry baby
(6,682 posts)Andy Stanton
(264 posts)Like it or not, the South is going for Romney in a big way.
Lex
(34,108 posts)registered voters/likely voters?
onecent
(6,096 posts)DFW
(54,436 posts)It really IS two states now. The north I grew up in is gone. It moved south.
I grew up outside of Falls Church, itself not exactly a booming metropolis. Nothing but farms with white picket fences, dirt roads, and a tiny airstrip for single-engined crop dusters and trainer planes.
That same area today is interstates, wall to wall shopping malls, lite industry all he way out to Dulles Airport, and don't forget a bedroom community for the huge Federal Government. Not everyone can afford to live on Foxhall Road. All the fixit garages for tractors have given way to chain stores, boutiques and ethnic restaurants. When I was a kid, there was a Lebanese place called "Steak-In-A-Sack" that was the oddball hangout of every teenager with a driver's license allowed to stay out after midnight. I think today, it's a Trader Joe's.
THAT is why Virginia is in play for us. The part of Virginia of my childhood can no longer afford to be there. It has moved down south, and resembles the north of Virginia now about as much as rural Mississippi resembles the Route 128 inner suburbs of Boston.
unhinged1
(20 posts)I'm a little confused about the way the forum here works, it's a bit different than most other message boards. Anyways, I live in the suburbs of bham. It seems like most of my friends who you would think would be for Obama went off the deep end for Ron Paul. When I tried to explain to them that everything that attracts most sensible people to him are liberal ideals, they get all confused and stuff. But now that he is history, it seems like they are kind of stuck in this limbo.
Butterbean
(1,014 posts)Please, do school me on my own region and my own people, since I'm so deluded and surrounded by corn-fed knuckle dragging bible-thumpers, not the wonderful people I know and love. They must all be just in my imagination. Tell me all about myself, oh erudite non-southerner. Type slowly and use small words, though, 'cause yanno.....I'M FROM THE SOUTH. *strums banjo*
Andy Stanton
(264 posts)Because I've said over and over LOOK AT THE POLLS.
The South is Romney territory.
Of course there are progressives in the South. But overall they are far, far outnumbered by the Rethugs.
Check out Huffington.
Texas Romney 56, Obama 40
Louisiana Romney 58, Obama 36
Arkansas Romney 61, Obama 34
Alabama Romney 59, Obama 36
Tennessee Romney 53, Obama 41
Georgia Romney 53, Obama 43
South Carolina Romney 53, Obama 42
Kentucky Romney 57, Obama 38
Only in Virginia, North Carolina and Florida does Obama have a fighting chance.
Butterbean
(1,014 posts)Ahem, No, not every southerner is a nutcase Rethug,but most are.
You might want to pull some bristles out of that broad brush you're painting with there, son.
Andy Stanton
(264 posts)Yes, MOST ARE.
As the polls so clearly indicate.
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ashtonelijah
(340 posts)And I've seen no hateful signs to speak of. I see about 5-10 Obama yard signs a day, usually several Obama bumper stickers, and in total I haven't seen 10 Romney bumper stickers or yard signs. Saw none until I drove through a wealthy neighborhood (yes, we have those).
LuckyStrykes
(115 posts)Within a 10 mile radius of my house:
2 Obama signs
8 Romney
The vote is pretty much split among race. Alabama has become a one party state. I don't even expect the local white democrat candidates (you will find those in higher AA communities) will vote for Obama. The Democratic Party is essentially invisible here within the white voters.
Still shocked about the Montgomery Advertiser endorsing Obama.