Are PA and MI really in play?

[Presidentcokedupfratboy]

Or is this just a Romney campaign head fake? I get the feeling he's trying to pick off a blue state because he knows Ohio is almost beyond his grasp.

[Mojo2]

1. In the bag

Latest PA polls showing Obama up 3-5% which is too much to flip in a week. The last Minnesota poll that I saw today had Obama up 8......I think Mitt is hoping for a miracle.

[Presidentcokedupfratboy]

2. What about Michigan?

I heard it was getting close.

[progressivebydesign]

5. pffft. You "heard?" Where? Because Romney is spending cash there?

that's why they're doing it.

[TDale313]

3. Desperation.

PA and MI are pretty solidly Obama at this point.

[Bigleaf]

6. This. RMoney has lost Ohio and they are scrambling. Too little too late.

[electionwatcher]

4. NO!

PA and MI are not in play.

[Presidentcokedupfratboy]

7. Saw a Detroit newspaper poll

Saying it was 47-45 for our guy in MI. Made me uncomfortable.

[Jennicut]

11. The Detroit News is a right wing newspaper.

Wouldn't worry about it too much.

[DrToast]

8. No. But it's not a head fake. It's a Hail Mary.*

*

[simplysweet1985]

9. I think PA is a mess

I think PA is a mess. I live in the heart of the anthracite region. Some would refer to it as Pennsyltucky... The Obama campaign has done next to nothing around here. Maybe it's just the local democratic committees that are failing us. We have minimal phone banking, next to no door to door and the road side signs are non existent. I had to buy some signs and put them out around my area myself. That gets kind of expensive.

Everywhere I drive there are Romney signs and other local GOP signs. Everywhere! I get the feeling we have been overlooked and I wouldn't be surprised if there are some last minute shifts in the polls that favor Romney. Top of mind is everything and the TV ads aren't stacking up in Obama's favor either.

[hogwyld]

10. Welcome to DU!

I agree with your assessment. Another thing that many overlook is the mess around Philly. If our margins are down in that region, we could definitely lose the state.

[RobinA]

15. Yep!

If you were to come to my part of PA, you could easily miss the fact that there is a Presidential OR Senatorial campaign going on, and it's not because the signs blew away! If you look closely you can see that there IS a Presidential and Senatorial campaign on and that some guy named Romney is the Repub for Pres. and that somebody named Smith is running for Senate. You would have no idea who either one of them is running against. And this is in the Phila suburbs, which tend to swing frequently. I hope this works as planned.

[zebe83]

18. No offense.....

I am from Pittsburgh. If you live in T as you say, those parts of PA didn't vote for PBO the last time and will not this time either. They have to carry Philly which they will to win.

Worrying about this will do no good.

Thank you for all you have done!!!

[julian09]

12. They just want to make Obama spend in MI & PA

Michigan has the same issue with R-Money as Ohio does the auto industry bailout.
Let Detroit go bankrupt isn't a winning slogan for R-MONEY.
Obama put tariffs on Chinese TIRES, ALUMINUM, STEEL, SOLAR PANELS. to help keep those industries competetive and viable in US and protecting those jobs in midwestern states like PA. The Chinese brought up their currency slightly, three times under Obama, something you never hear about.

[truebrit71]

13. No they are not. Haven't been for many weeks.

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[courseofhistory]

14. Look...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251194496

They aren't in play!!

[budkin]

16. No, Romney knows Ohio is gone

So he's desperate for electoral votes

[zebe83]

17. First.....please stop saying overstating the Philadephia situation....

It is no where near what is going on in New Jersey....


"All told, more than 828,000 Peco customers lost power since 4 a.m. Monday.

By 8 p.m. Tuesday, the latest figures available, the number of customers in the dark had been reduced to 466,000, including 60,000 in Philadelphia who were still without service.

"They are rough estimates. We may have restored power to some customers and we may have seen additional outages throughout the day on Tuesday as the storm was ending," Williamson said."

That was from the Phillynews.com the Enquirer's website that was posted this morning.

The damage in the Philly area was considerable, but they are working on getting it fixed. It is nothing like NJ or NY.

Yes, there may not be many street signs......but elections are not won by street signs.

If all the polls are wrong, Romney could win PA. But I don't see that happening. And it not be because there were no ads or no street signs. There were no ads, because both sides ruled it out of play. Why would you want PBO to spend money in a state that everyone (including the other side) are telling you that you have it won?

[blazeKing]

19. If Obama isn't spending money there

Don't worry about it.

[BlueDemKev]

20. Well...

...the thing about MI and PA is that, even though we've won both of those states in the last five (5) elections, the results are typically close, the vast rural areas always vote Republican, but the few urban areas are just enough to offset it. Basically, if Philadelphia and Detroit suddenly vanished, those states would definitely lean red.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

22. Not close in 2008. Obama won by nearly 10 points.

[BlueDemKev]

24. That's true, but 2008 was a wave election for Democrats

I'm talking about in general.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

25. That's true for Senate and congressional races. Not true for presidential races.

Look, every *presidential* election year, the pundits try to tell us that PA will be a swing state, and it never is. Since 1992, PA has voted for the Democrat for president, sure by smaller margins, but a win is a win.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

21. He's trying to siphon off a few votes in blue states. That's all.

[Arkana]

23. No. Both states will be blue November 6.

Romney is delusional at worst, lying at best.