Storm Clouds Form: Bob Woodward Compares Hillary Scandal to Watergate

[NWCorona]

Hillary Clinton’s e-mail scandal has been a difficult one for the public to understand and for journalists to explain. But Bob Woodward, the Washington Post reporter who helped uncover Watergate 40 years ago, clarified things a lot on Fox News Sunday today when he said that an e-mail in the most recently released batch shows Hillary trying to “subvert the rules” that she expected others to follow.

A few days earlier, Joe DiGenova, a well-respected former district attorney for the District of Columbia, told The Laura Ingraham Show that “there is vitriol of an intense amount developing” in the intelligence community and that FBI agents “are already in the process of gearing themselves to basically revolt if [the Justice Department] refuses to bring charges” against either Hillary Clinton or her former State Department staffers.

It was the State Department’s data dump in the wee hours of January 1 that revealed a particularly eyebrow-raising e-mail from Hillary Clinton: In one note in February 2011, she expressed surprise that a State Department employee was using a private e-mail to conduct State business. She wrote this e-mail, seeming to express dissatisfaction at the employee’s use of private e-mail, on her own private e-mail server — through which she sent all her e-mails while secretary of state."

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429526/hillarys-e-mail-scandal-grows-latest-batch-shows-she-broke-rules-again

Storm Clouds indeed!

[yourpaljoey]

1. This is Watergate times 100

[HereSince1628]

9. I don't see that multiplier, not yet anyway, but it's serious n/t

[yourpaljoey]

25. It is all in the pipeline

And it appears as though that pipeline will be tapped.
Add the Clinton Foundation to the private server and the violations
of national security agreements and you have a block buster on your hands.

[HereSince1628]

36. Right now we see it through a glass, darkly

-IF- our interpretation of the poor images we see is true, then, yes, we will witness a political blockbuster.

[yourpaljoey]

38. Better than a top-selling novel

[HereSince1628]

42. a tragedy I think.

[yourpaljoey]

43. Of great proportion

[Bob41213]

71. To be honest, at this point I think it's just a question of when.

Too much shit is coming out and Comey feeling the need to clarify it's an investigation.... Does it happen before the convention or after is really what I'm wondering. Maybe she gets off but this thing is going to blow up in a big way.

[LanternWaste]

99. Hence, the implicit glee.

Hence, the implicit glee.

[yourpaljoey]

109. Fascination

We are watching a major story unfold in real time.
It is interesting by any a count.

[merbex]

15. I think so as well ( lived through Watergate) - this involves National Security

as well as a disdain, if not not outright breaking of FOIA laws

[floppyboo]

20. I sure hope your right paljoey - cause I need a pal

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Let me begin by saying I am metis/Norwegian and can not vote in your election. But I am your neighbour, and I suppose I could argue you stole my land. At least Maine! Idol no more!

Let me say too that I very much dislike your choice of Hillary. It is, in my mind, not really in step with history as it writes itself.

You can't ignore the fact of the internet and the baring of truth of the ongoing evil of the colonialists.

This consciousness is rising as surely as the sea levels.

You owe reparations weighed in the moral equivalent of life or death. You can chose an honorable path. This election won't do it - a long way to go.

But a good step would be sending out a great big message that Hillary should step aside.

Jail? I think she should be forgiven. That was the path she was molded to take. Goldwater girl turns civil rights??? Only thing I know for sure, is she wants power and the price is too high

[yourpaljoey]

23. Thank you for that

[potisok]

106. +1 and kick

[floppyboo]

111. forward to the best we can be! thanks for the validation!

[leeroysphitz]

80. I can say, without hyperbole, that this is A MILLION times worse than Watergate, Iran-Contra and

Teapot Dome all rolled into one...

[scscholar]

108. Deleting a person email in no way compares to deleting audio recordings

We'll never know what Nixon really said in that 18.5 minutes.

[BootinUp]

2. DiGenova Respected? The guys been a lying Faux News Hack for years. nt

[sheshe2]

13. Ooopsie.

[Trajan]

18. As a staunch Bernie supporter ...

Fox News citations make me wanna puke ...

I would NEVER consult the devil to demean the imp ...

There are plenty of good reasons to toss the Clinton's out on their asses and out of the American Body Politic .... And we don't need Fox News to do it ...

[synergie]

74. Then why do you guys rely on it and so many other RW sources so much?

[Seeinghope]

91. Some may do that but many more don't. There are just too many sources to just call it

propaganda from Fox and the Republicans.

[msanthrope]

48. The 90s....it's like it never existed.....nt

[Hassin Bin Sober]

58. Yeah. I spit up my root beer on that one.

Then I looked at the link. National Review. Blech.

[Onlooker]

3. Is it any surprise that some Bernie supporters seem to be uniting with the white right?

Bernie supporters are generally white, often male, and often marginalizing people of color and making sexist attacks on Hillary (she cackles, talks too much, is too loud are among the charges I've seen in DU), so it's no surprise when Bernie supporters link to websites like the National Review. Perhaps those Bernie supporters who rely on right wing news sources to discredit Hillary can form a white party with Donald Trump?

[NWCorona]

10. Umm, I'm black and far from hating myself or my people.

You can attack the messenger all you like but why don't you use some of that energy disproving any of the points made.

[catnhatnh]

34. Yeah-he stuck the "white" in there

because it supposedly invalidates anything I say. By laying in multiple filters he can hold argument down to rebuttals by black females who are not millenials...

[floppyboo]

64. Totally rude response. I'm gonna guess if Hil is indicted this poster votes Trump over Sanders.

boo to you! This is a democratic site. It is sad to me that people need to hold on to that racist paradigm - but first to admit that I do not understand. I can only know my truth, and my truth says Hillary is not a friend of the people to the degree that Sanders is - a hell of a lot better than Trump - but still not a true friend

[Peace Patriot]

29. Brock, you can take this shit and stuff it in your hairdo!

It stinks as bad as your smear of Anita Hill! It is completely and unforgivably rotten!

[mac56]

46. Welcome to my ignore list.

[bkkyosemite]

54. Um I'm a woman and have among other things Native Indian in me.

[Cali_Democrat]

60. +1000

Well said.

[Demsrule86]

62. It does not surprise me

They have much in common don't they?

[B Calm]

75. I see your status is flagged for review, what is your true agenda here?

[Zen Democrat]

89. These generalaties are incorrect. I think Bernie has more women supporters than male.

Me, my daughter and g-daughters all support Bernie. Most Bernie supporters are women and the polls bear that out. Bernie devotees support Democratic Socialism (FDR Democrats) and are way, way further from the right-wing than Hillary. We know what we believe and why. Such comments about Bernie being against people of color and women expose pure ignorance about Bernie Sanders and his campaign. It's more than disgusting.

By the way, I make no apologies for cringing at Hillary's phony cackling. She'd be better to keep a straight face and stop that. It's overblown and really creepy. If I had friends who cackled like that, I'd definitely advise them to tone it down. Spoken by a woman who doesn't cackle.

[arikara]

90. What a pile of baloney

n/t

[Armstead]

104. Disagree with the premise all you want -- but please don't toss race into it

The question is whether she acted inappropriately -- or illegally -- in her performance as Sec of State.

One can debate that on its own merits.

Race has got nothing to do with it.

[JSup]

4. Not trusting anyone...

...that writes for the Hillary shill Washington Post.

[jillan]

5. Please tell me what kind of person runs for President while being investigated by the FBI?

[NWCorona]

7. Exactly!!!

[merbex]

11. A person whose ambitions thwart reason n/t

[840high]

69. .that^

[pdsimdars]

92. ^^^^^^^^^^^ Amen! ^^^^^^^^^^^

[sheshe2]

17. FEC?

[grasswire]

19. do you know how ridiculous that is?

Apparently not.

[sheshe2]

22. do you know how ridiculous that is?

when RW propaganda is posted about Hill? apparently not.

[BillZBubb]

102. Yeah, that old right wing FBI is investigating Hillary because she's such a liberal!

It's all, wait a minute, it's all a VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!. Yeah, that's it.

[CrowCityDem]

6. Woodward compares everything to Watergate. It keeps him relevant.

[reformist2]

26. IKR? It's only a "security review," anyways.

[cantbeserious]

8. Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does

eom

[msanthrope]

12. I'm pissing myself laughing.....first...that NI Woodward

is being used as a source.

Second....Joe DiGenova is respected?? Were you alive in the 1990s?

[NWCorona]

16. Yup!

[riderinthestorm]

14. Geez, is Bob Woodward able to evaluate scandals? Does he have any cred on this?

SMH @ the inevitable responses and cries that he's not credible!!!1eleventies!!1

[pdsimdars]

93. Agreed. . .

[sheshe2]

31. I am sure you have links for this.

Correct?

And you quote Morning Joe.

[apcalc]

41. Right wing pap

I can't believe ANYONE is citing this stuff on a supposed Democratic site. Repulsive.

[sheshe2]

45. I had to add this!!!!!

You...

Habitual Liars Lie Habitually

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In fact, State’s record on transparency is so bad that a federal judge had to order officials there to collect Clinton’s e-mails, vet them for classified material, and release them on a monthly basis. The latest batch contains 66 additional examples of classified material that ended up on Hillary’s server, bringing the total to more than 1,200. This demolishes Hillary’s claim that she didn’t send or receive classified material on her personal account. Among the security breaches: Clinton forwarded the name of a confidential CIA source to staff at State through her insecure server. Michael Isikoff, a noted investigative reporter, told MSNBC’s Morning Joe last August that the naming of a CIA source was “evidence of a crime by somebody”

Michael Isikoff, a noted investigative reporter, told MSNBC’s Morning Joe last August that the naming of a CIA source was “evidence of a crime by somebody”

"Evidence of a crime by SOMEBODY"....LOL Somebody. Now that is specific..... I know somebody, was it that somebody, or was it somebody else. It might have been another somebody I was thinking of. I know they were somebody.

[Uncle Joe]

24. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, NWCorona.

[warrprayer]

27. Kick

And rec

[SheenaR]

28. Thanks for the info

Of course you will get spat on and called a RW hack in disguise, but if Comcast and friends aren't going to report the news anymore, gotta get it from somewhere.

Truth is truth.

K&R

[pdsimdars]

95. You got it exactly right. Fox is at least reporting things as they come out.

You have to have a big and strong enough mind to get the information and not dismiss things outright or you are just like the tea baggers who dismiss global warming or anything else they hear about on MSM.

[Zynx]

30. National Review? Laura Ingraham Show?

Wow. Really?

[NWCorona]

33. Dispute what's said in the article and I will self delete.

[Demsrule86]

49. Better self delete now

Woodward is a GOP jerk/Hillary hater and not known for the truth

[Demsrule86]

56. Dispute what?

Bob Woodwards's right wing crap? Opinion? You post right wing crap here and he we are supposed to take it seriously. No...have no decency?

[mcar]

32. Quoting RW hack DiGenova on DU

[apcalc]

35. Something about his style, his delivery....

Is a problem...he always seems to be shouting.

Buzz off Bobbie.

[madamesilverspurs]

37. Would that be the same Bob Woodward

who got all comfy cozy with W? Who claimed that W never lied about WMDs, etc.?

Gee golly gosh, for some reason his credibility is somewhere beneath Trump's comparison to lice.

[NWCorona]

39. "who got all comfy cozy with W?"

[TwilightZone]

59. OMG, a picture!!

Alert the authorities.

[BillZBubb]

105. And one worth a million words at that.

[St Aug girl]

66. Actually in Woodward's third book in the W

Trilogy he discusses the search for WMDs and pretty much admits that there were none found by the military group sent to find them. His narrative of the search would actually be quite amusing if it wasn't so tragic.

[KingFlorez]

40. National Review?

I'm sure Rush Limbaugh has some nice material for you to report.

[NWCorona]

44. Are you just saying that or are you expecting me to respond?

[Demsrule86]

47. More right wing bullshit

You all want it to be true so...bad but it is not...so Right wing Woodward who defended Bush over Iraq...nice company you keep Bernie supporters. No matter what you say or how many lies you post,Bernie will still lose.

That republican shill Bob Woodward shoots down the story that Bush lied to get troops in Iraq. "And he was the one who was skeptical," Woodward said

So much for good old Bob.

[NWCorona]

50. Why not attack the content of the article?

[Demsrule86]

55. content?

I see nothing but bullshit right wing lies..same old crap.

[apcalc]

51. National review...

You cite National Review? National Review? Right wing garbage.

[NWCorona]

52. Did you read the link?

I've seen RW links used here to bash Bernie. Survived jury as well.

Refute the article and I'll self delete.

[dana_b]

63. evidently the guy who helped to expose Watergate

isn't credible enough.

[Demsrule86]

65. Oh please

They love Bernie...because they know he is loser. I would never read National Review unless something happened like Trump losing and it was to watch then suffer while I had a Mojito and laughed my butt off.

[apcalc]

76. That's not my problem. It's still garbage.

[BootinUp]

53. Jury Results - Yes DU has sunk to a new low.

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[840high]

70. Good. TY

[pdsimdars]

96. Now, shouldn't juror #5 be eliminated from further jury duty?

They are reacting with their political bias and not to the actual issues. This is legit news from a legit journalist and shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.

And, someone on a jury, who decides the fate of others showing such political bias and calling names and making smears on them in their judgement.
How is someone like that allowed to be on a jury? How?

[BootinUp]

97. dude/dudette: "National Review | Conservative News, Opinion, Politics, & Policy"

What is it you don't understand?

[Jitter65]

57. bob has been after the Clintons for decades. And there is no comparison to Watergate.

First off, Hillary was not a sitting President. Start there.

[TwilightZone]

61. Joe DiGenova...Laura Ingraham. Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck must have been unavailable.

[tularetom]

67. Theres a bus on the way and somebody needs to be thrown under it

Whoever it is will be handsomely compensated by the Clinton foundation.

[cry baby]

68. Why the hell is the national review and it's contributors even

allowed here? Who the hell cares what Joe digenova or Laura Ingraham have to say?

Is there anyone that thinks that they would have anything good to say about the clintons?

[pdsimdars]

98. Why do you want to be as ignorant as the far right?

They are the ones who feel the need to censor things. Censorship is not necessary to people with a strong foundation. Don't push to weaken everyone with censorship. That's for the far right.

[cry baby]

103. It's your right to believe what you read from non-credible right wing

sources. In normal times, that is times where Bernie people aren't the ruling class at DU, articles that were from conservative sources slamming a democratic candidate would not be allowed. Woodward hates Clinton and using Joe DiGenova as a source..really? Fuck him and Woodward and all that believe their shit. This is the lowest form of anti-dem scum and it isn't censorship to be offended that those names would be used here on DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND.

But, by all means, keep reading and believing this scummy shit. I look forward to the time when this shit isn't on DU anymore and the ruling class here starts respecting this Democratic board.

And earlier in the thread, you were criticizing a juror that voted to hide this shitty original post with it's shitty link to a shitty RW source. You probably aren't in a position to criticize what a juror says cause...well, just saying.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

72. What a sellout--

on Fox "News", no less. Did HRC break into Republican Party HQ and put together a paramilitary Foreign Legion to prepare to carry out even much worse misdeeds? Who's HRC'S G Gordon Liddy?

What a crock--a mountain from a molehill. This is a journalist's journalist? Sounds more like a sleazebag's sleazebag.

[Demsrule86]

84. And what exactly

does that make people who post such crap?

[bvar22]

100. "On Fox news no less"...NOTHING on Fox is credible!!!!

[PATRICK]

77. Compared to the Plame scandal

this is hardly inevitable that charges will be filed. Lost e-mails, stonewalling, special prosecutor? Presidential influence. It almost doesn't matter anymore what anyone knows or believes or what laws are patently broken(simply having a private unsecured backdoor on State Department communications). No wonder you have to go to the most faithful enemies of the accused to find believers in a justice system freed from political influence, bucking the bosses.

If anything comes of this it is because Democrats allowed Republicans to stay in key accountability jobs to guarantee that at least some Dems will pay the piper, but no hint of even a GOP stooge taking a fall.

[Mike Nelson]

78. Woodward is...

...slipping. I predicted he would have a Hillary hit-book scheduled before the election. Where is it... and his Obama's Wars was out for the midterm, not general election. Still, he may be planning a talk-show round of anti-Hillary appearances like the ones he did for Bill & Obama.

[Lodestar]

79. So what's your theory about the reason for his attacks on Hillary?

I'm curious because I don't think it's because he's rightwing in the least.
So what is it about?

[randome]

82. He's old and feeling irrelevant? It happens to famous personalities from time to time.

Too often, in fact. You'd think they could compare themselves to others and avoid this but apparently it's not as easy as it sounds.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[Lodestar]

85. Well, what's curious is that, the majority of reporters out there,

have not had the access to the Clintons that Bob has had.
Bob Woodward has probably been the most 'intimate' with the Clintons
while doing interviews and research for his book on them. He's been
inside the loop. So having had that experience, it seems he has come
away from it with a bad taste in his mouth. Why?
I doubt it's something he came to because he's now "feeling irrelevant".

[SidDithers]

81. The Right hates Hillary. The fringe Left hates Hillary...

And there's no longer a dimes worth of difference between them.

Sid

[LexVegas]

83. This board has become a Hillary Clinton hate site. nt

[silvershadow]

86. Woodward would likely be the one to be able to make that leap.

Like so many of us have.

[demmiblue]

87. Unrec. for source. n/t

[Skwmom]

88. The FBI agent asking a question of Mills that he wasn't supposed to was a big hint.

[asuhornets]

94. National review? What a shame? n/t

[Gomez163]

101. Woodward compares everything to Watergate.

If he had a water gate, he'd compare it to Watergate.

[WhiteTara]

107. Fox, DiGenova, Woodward, Laura Ingraham

all really respected sources. Yeah, I rely on them for all my must know information. Not.

[Beacool]

110. Some of you aren't even pretending anymore.

The National Review? Fox News Sunday? The Laura Ingraham Show? Joe DiGenova?

Did you perchance get lost on your way to Free Republic?