Enough with the "Poor Hillary (but she's such a Fighter)" posts --

[IdaBriggs]

A) I don't need a perpetual victim in the White House. Leaders aren't victims.

B) I need someone who is of UNIMPEACHABLY good character - the old proverb "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion" is TRUE.

C) We have a two party system, which means we depend on the Republicans to keep the Democrats honest, and vice versa. With Hillary's history, knee jerk Democratic response to Republican accusations are "smear" which endangers those checks-and-balances. President Obama has been able to have a scandal free administration (minus Hillary and her problems following common sense rules at the State Department), so it can be done, but apparently NOT with Hillary.

D) I need someone to fight for the good of the people in this country -- Hillary has an absolutely abysmal record of publicly standing up for Democratic Party principals: unions at Walmart, genocide in Rwanda, war in Iraq, marriage equality prior to Supreme Court decisions, or government transparency with 38 FOIA lawsuits caused 100% by her actions are all "no brainer" issues she never displayed "leadership" about.

E) Her glory in deceptive language might make for a great lawyer, but it confuses the hell out of the rest of us. She parses everything. For example, "security review" was true for five seconds, but after that she's been under investigation by people who do criminal investigations for a living so why keep saying "security review" except to deceive? Life is too short to have to research every word out of her mouth.

So please JUST STOP IT ALREADY. It isn't "poor Hillary, those mean GOP people just smear her all the time" because there are plenty of Democrats who have served in Washington longer who still have excellent reputations -- if you want to play the sexist card, start with Rosalynn Carter and move to Madeleine Albright for First Lady and Secretary of State respectively, then Democratic senators Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Kirstin Gillibrand and Tammy Baldwin (to name only a few) who are powerful, respected and apparently not under FBI scrutiny so it must be something special about her.

The GOP is NOT that "powerful" -- she is just that...

Pick your own word, but please stop asking people to admire or feel sorry for her because she is a scandal-magnet.

You are embarrassing yourselves, and you don't even seem to notice it, which embarrasses the rest of us.

[Gomez163]

1. ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS HUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111

[DURHAM D]

2. I guess I missed those "asking people to admire or

feel sorry for her" posts on DU.

Could you link to a few?

[sheshe2]

11. I must have missed them too Durham.

Yet their must be hundreds, if someone posts a whole Op on the subject.

[IdaBriggs]

12. Yes. It's been going on for a while....

Here Is How Your Hillary Smear Sausage Gets Made, November 20, 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251831028

"You’re Rewarding 25 Years of GOP Smears", February 2, 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511126361

Don't be a tool for the corporatists., March 27, 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511587879

Obsession over Hillary emails = shilling for Judicial Watch and Citizens United., May 9, 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511930665

Are you rewarding 25 years of GOP smears? I hope not., May 12, 3016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511949197

Give GOP props, 25 years of relentless propaganda has worked brilliantly against Hillary., May 13, 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511954934

It has obviously been going on for a while (I selected only a handful to show samples) but it's getting worse lately, hence this irritated post by me. Seriously, enough already!

[DURHAM D]

17. lol I opened three of those links and none of them make your point.

[IdaBriggs]

20. You didn't see the "look how mean the horrible GOP smear machine is"?

"They've been going after poor Hillary for 25 years!"

Enough already.

ON EDIT: And another one - sigh. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511949527

[synergie]

19. So what disturbs you is when people remind you of the RW sources of all your

favorite vile hateful threads directly imported from Freeperville?

I'm sorry that facts seems to bother you so much, but if won't stop with the toxic threads and posts that are entirely right wing in nature, and your links all show where much of the swill clogging up GD-P originates, you're going to have to deal with a DEMOCRATIC site that ostensibly hosts liberals and progressives defending against the RW nastiness an admiring how she withstands so many lies repeated for so many years, despite zero evidence to back any of them up.

If it bothers you so much, perhaps you'd be happier on a site that is less Democratic where such attacks are common and defense less likely?

[MFM008]

3. NO ones character is without FLAW.

[hobbit709]

4. do you get nosebleeds at that wagging finger altitude?

[One Black Sheep]

5. but some have more flaws than others

which I think is the OP's point.

[annavictorious]

6. I don't hear anybody talking or writing about "poor Hillary"

It's Sanders and his supporters who are perpetually whining about the unfairness of not giving another old, white guy the nomination that he is entitled to even though he lost.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. There is not one thing you wrote any fair person could take exception to.

[mindem]

9. You into ageism much?

The old white guy? Bernie is only 5 years older than Billary.

[IdaBriggs]

13. Then you just aren't paying attention - I provided half a dozen examples

in post #12, with three of them in the last few days alone.

And you may not be aware of it, but the primary season is still on/your premature victory celebration is annoying, especially with a candidate under criminal investigation by the FBI.

[DURHAM D]

18. They are off point so what exactly is your point

other than to let us know how much you hate Hillary?

I think we will survive.

[oasis]

8. Hillary handled Trey Gowdy and his panel of goons impressively.

She also doesn't take any shit from hecklers who jump in her face with nonsense.

Hillary possesses a Mr.T, "I pity the fool" swagger. Don't try her.

[IdaBriggs]

14. Mr. T was a FICTIONAL character played by AN ACTOR so

not as impressive a characterization as you might think. Your opinion of her demeanor is very different than mine - I would characterize her as rude, condescending, and shifty.

Those are opinions, and they vary wildly depending on who observes her.

Frankly, I now understand why she was being interrogated about the situation in Libya -- what an absolute cluster fuck she created! And her not turning over the documents requested is how her secret server got found, so I guess the Republicans were actually doing their job -- being proud of her about that is only something that works if you don't know what she did, why she did it or what happened after.

[oasis]

16. Anyways, thanks for the clarification on Mr. T.

[mindwalker_i]

10. Hey, that's sexist!

[IdaBriggs]

15. Well, I could have named a bunch of men who have spent decades

working in Washington without being scandal-magnets, but I expected folks to use the "but she's a woman!" card, so I kept the list to women-who-don't-have-criminal-attorneys-on-retainer-regularly.

Too subtle for the point, maybe?

[Smarmie Doofus]

21. YOU ARE ON FIRE TONITE. K AND R NT

[potisok]

22. +1 and kick

[JoePhilly]

23. Some one is being embarrassing all right.

Just not who you think it is.