Bernie will be working his ass off to stop Drumpf.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

But will it be an uphill battle given so many of his supporters dont care if Drumpf is elected?

I know Bernie, well I know somebody who knows him, and my friend assures me Bernie will be ADAMANT about stopping Drumpf.

Not sure what he will do at the convention if he loses, but it will be a plea to his supporters to support HIM in defeating Drumpf.

[Hiraeth]

1. And Clinton will do better .... how ...?

[Baobab]

22. American voters will turn out in huge numbers to vote for Bernie

The first time in decades I will feel really good about a Presidential vote.

its the Hillary "coronation" that people are disturbed about.

[hack89]

32. Where were they in the primaries? nt

[Warren DeMontague]

2. "So many of his supporters dont care if Drumpf is elected"

Cool story, bro.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

5. Are you a Drumpf supporter? Can I ask that without being censored? You see I figure

if you are remotely liberal you wont be able to sleep, for months, until you have done everything in your power to stop him.

[Warren DeMontague]

6. I wont alert on you, but what the fuck kind of question is that?

Seriously. What the fuck.


Did you understand what I just wrote? If I say that I dont believe there are shitloads of Sanders supporters who dont care if Trump is elected, how the everloving FUCK does that make me a Trump supporter?


Please, explain your answer, and show your work.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

9. You didnt write that, you wrote cool story bro. Trying to be cute. I took that to mean that

you were demeaning what i wrote

[Warren DeMontague]

10. I quoted you, verbatim- "so many of his supporters dont care if Drumpf is elected" and then said

Cool story, bro.

Because that is a bullshit assertion. Demeaning it? Fuck yes, it is worthy of demeaning. You are demeaning a lot more with that assertion you pulled out of ...wherever.

Ive been here for 12 years, mr. Wilson, and I have been a Loyal Democrat for far longer. So in short, sir, no, i am not a fucking trump supporter. fuck.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

12. I am seeing endless, non stop posting of "cant trust Hillary" "cant vote for her", etc.

I wish you were right , but no, you are not.

If you dont vote for the Dem in Nov you ARE admitting you dont care if he is elected, it is THE DEFINITION OF it for krist sake

[Warren DeMontague]

14. Well please don't make assumptions about who I am, what I do, or who I will be voting for in Nov.

It's offensive.

[Baobab]

23. You're pretending that Hillary is something she's not.

"Jackie Wilson Said"

[Thinkingabout]

3. He has pledged to support the DNC and I expect he will do this, electing Trump

Will hurt progressives. He will support Hillary.

[Baobab]

24. A vote for Hillary is a vote for Privatization!

and that is privatization which is irreversible - despite their often being fiascoes- privatization of public services are neoliberal ideology and they are inflexible- a policy mistake which this nation cannot afford.

[Demsrule86]

4. He better damn well not take it to the convention

When he loses the primary in early June after the last primary...he better get out. Or it matters not what he does; his career will be over...He has already caused us much trouble. I blame Bernie for lying to his supporters and making excuses for his losses.

[SheenaR]

11. Caused us much trouble lol

In 2008, I was very involved in the Edwards campaign. Was in the same car on the way to events. Was traveling all around.

And then he broke my heart along with those who trusted him with their livelihood and their time/efforts.

I was MIA and refused to get anywhere near a campaign until this year.

Caused us much trouble? Bernie Sanders brought me back into the fold and I am happy about it every day. And my story is not unique. The only people who he has caused trouble to are those who wanted a quick and painless trip to the convention.

For that trouble, I am sorry


EDIT: He has not lied to his supporters once. Not a single time. I would like proof of that. And excuses for losses? He isn't the only one questioning voter suppression, so it's not just him

[Baobab]

27. Both Bill Clinton and john Edwards both

However, I think Bernie is a known quality, and thats good.

Hillary is obviously hiding a great deal. Look at how much of her campaign is dedicated to what Robert J. Lifton calls "thought terminating cliches" to prevent any kind of discussions.

[SheenaR]

33. Agree completely

And John devastated me. I thought he was the one.

But Bernie gave me hope in a different way. I had become resigned like many that single payer and tuition free college (Edwards actually floated this in 04) and paid family leave were just off the table. He gave me some hope again.

To your point, "thought terminating cliches" is a perfect description.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. MOAR HATZ!

[Demsrule86]

45. If he takes it to the convention

All doubt would be removed...he would be on Trump's team.

[Justice]

7. Conditionally ADAMANT about stopping Drumpf?

How can you say "Not sure what he will do at the convention if he loses, but it will be a plea to his supporters to support HIM in defeating Drumpf."

Not ADAMANT if he will only do it if he is the nominee.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

8. I meant i am not sure what form it will take, how he will do it, not that he will or wont

[cali]

13. Bullfuckingshit that so many of his supporters don't care if trump is elected

[Warren DeMontague]

16. That was my point as well.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

17. So you will vote for Hillary if need be and ask others to, great.

[basselope]

19. I would never ask someone to vote for a republican.

[basselope]

18. There is nothing Bernie can say to make me vote for Clinton.

Maybe he can sway 50% of his supporters.. but the rest simply won't vote for a war candidate.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

20. You dont belong here then according to what I have read

[basselope]

21. Your opinion matters me to me because?????

[panader0]

25. Jackie--you used to support Bernie, or said you did. What happened?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

28. Where did I stop? Read carefully

words like "need be" are very relevant

[mcar]

26. I think you are correct.

And good on Sen Sanders, who sees reality.

[BeyondGeography]

29. There will be no nuance

Democrats can learn a lot from the language he uses about Republicans. I'm looking forward to it.

[Bluenorthwest]

30. You are apparently misinformed or something, I support Bernie and I've spent decades opposing

Trump, literally. So when your candidate Hillary Clinton was attending Donald's wedding, I already refused all Trump custom, and I had opportunity to refuse it. Trump is a toxin, so was his father, this is not some new development and yet many people cavorted with him as if he was not a villain from a line of villains. I did no such thing.
Hillary did.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

31. Great to hear you will vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination.

[Bluenorthwest]

34. Do not presume to use me as your handpuppet. You need to own up to what I actually said.

I think coyness looks shabby on adults Jackie. I challenged your characterization of Sanders supporters, I said nothing about the GE, my State is holding a primary right now. So let me repeat, while Hillary was playing patsy cake with Donald, I already knew he was a racist creep and treated him accordingly. She did not. This is part of why I oppose her in the ongoing Primary contest.

I assume that you never paid Trump any attention until this primary cycle.

So why are you smearing Sanders supporters in this manner?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

35. KNow more about Trump than most, have known that he used organized crime to throw

people out of their apartments so he could sell them as condos for 20 years, and have talked about it

Know about Bernie longer than most here too.

Supported Bernie longer than most here too.

Like Bernie, will do everything in my human power to elect Hillary if need be.

But yeah, was denouncing and talking about Trump for almost 20 years.

Heard the stories about him so long ago it was before I knew much about him at all. Will never forget those stories.

[Hare Krishna]

36. As a Democratic nominee, I expect Bernie to work his ass off.

Good for you on recognizing the true Democratic standard bearer.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

37. Bernie is far more of a Democrat as to original intent than Hillary...and yet,

Bernie and I will still vote for her if we have to.

Hell, Bernie and I will act like she is the best thing since sliced bread in fact.

It will be an act, but bet your ASS that is what we will both do.

[Hare Krishna]

38. I refuse to participate in the silly kabuki theatre you have there.

Bernie will stand with the people, fight for the people, and help the people. What has Clinton done for the people lately, besides give lip service?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

40. Quit pretending. You will be supporting Trump if you dont vote Democratic and I want

to know who is doing that so I can blame them.

I wish you folks who either vote for Trump or dont vote for the Democrat would all own up to it after the election publicly so we can know who to blame and point at.

[Hare Krishna]

42. So you think by refusing to vote for Clinton, I'm going to vote for Trump?

Surely, you jest.

I'm voting, but not the way you would expect me to (and I'm sure about 50 million of others will feel the same)

[MoonRiver]

39. I don't trust him anymore.

I think this primary has gone to his head, and he's become power mad. Not the first time in history that such a thing has happened. Plus I believe that his money grubbing staff keep feeding his ego, in order to keep the gravy train rolling their way.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

41. NOt at all, I think he sees ONE last chance for the people to gain

power and he is the vehicle for that.

I am saddened that more people cant see that

[Hare Krishna]

43. I'm saddened by people trashing the process of Democracy by forcing Sanders to shut down

The entire primaries has been a farce so far.

We all know who the real Democratic frontrunner is.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

44. Hillary has more votes, but having primaries and caucuses makes a joke about the

whole thing.

If they were all primaries, Bernie may have more votes.

Either way, we support the Democrat or people die.