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TipTok

(2,474 posts)
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:33 PM May 2016

I always hear about the classified info on Hillary's server...

... But I think that there is too little attention paid as to why it was installed in the first place.

What other reason could there be than to thwart transparency and archiving?

Has she ever given a reason?

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I always hear about the classified info on Hillary's server... (Original Post) TipTok May 2016 OP
And there is the crux of the biscuit yourpaljoey May 2016 #1
To avoid FOIA requests nwnatural May 2016 #2
That is certainly logical... TipTok May 2016 #3
She tried. Convenience. Bob41213 May 2016 #10
Ahh yes... TipTok May 2016 #11
But "convenience" makes no logical sense when... IdaBriggs May 2016 #17
She's always gotten stuff done scscholar May 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #6
And, if she had waited on government ID, ... scscholar May 2016 #9
She IS in a situation chervilant May 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #15
Are you suggesting that she installed a home server... TipTok May 2016 #7
Yes catnhatnh May 2016 #8
State has not engaged in the diligent, good-faith search that FOIA requires," says AP's legal filing w4rma May 2016 #5
Convenience for Hillary pmorlan1 May 2016 #20
FOIA is the most apparent reason but I think unbridled hubris is on the table too. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #13
Oh, well it must have metastasized then. I can think of other people and silvershadow May 2016 #16
Haha yep - too true. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #18
Say, for the sake of conjecture, there *was a legitimate reason. silvershadow May 2016 #14
Obfuscation of shady dealings? Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #19
Here's an interesting video of Clinton commenting on not wanting to use email CoffeeCat May 2016 #21
 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
3. That is certainly logical...
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:38 PM
May 2016

... But not something she would ever admit to.

Has she ever tried to give a reason?

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
17. But "convenience" makes no logical sense when...
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:08 AM
May 2016

From the "Clinton Email Scandal Timeline" http://thompsontimeline.com/IS_CLINTON%27S_EMAIL_SCANDAL_FOR_REAL%3F

Clinton turned down the offer to have a secure computer installed in her office so she could check her emails from the comfort of her desk. Instead, even though she was highly dependent on email communication, she had to leave her office, retrieve her BlackBerry from security, go to a nearby secure area, use her BlackBerry, and then give it back to security before returning to her office, every single time. As a result, she would sometimes complain about having to go hours between checking her emails.


That's not "convenience" -- that's coverup.
 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
4. She's always gotten stuff done
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:39 PM
May 2016

And government IT is infamous for taking too long. Just look at the accusation she didn't use a secure line when her secure line was down. What was she supposed to do? Just not work?

Response to scscholar (Reply #4)

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
9. And, if she had waited on government ID, ...
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:45 PM
May 2016

people would have attacked her for not doing her job. She was in a no-win situation.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
12. She IS in a situation
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:53 PM
May 2016

of her own making.

Sad, how convoluted are the arguments in support of Hi11ary...

SMDH...

Response to scscholar (Reply #9)

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
7. Are you suggesting that she installed a home server...
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:43 PM
May 2016

... On her own time and dime because DoS IT folks couldn't process her TS / Secret account in a timely manner?

That is certainly unique.

Has she said that or is it just a guess on your part?

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
5. State has not engaged in the diligent, good-faith search that FOIA requires," says AP's legal filing
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:39 PM
May 2016

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Associated Press filed a lawsuit Wednesday against the State Department to force the release of email correspondence and government documents from Hillary Rodham Clinton's tenure as secretary of state.

The legal action comes after repeated requests filed under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act have gone unfulfilled. They include one request AP made five years ago and others pending since the summer of 2013.

Said AP Executive Editor Kathleen Carroll, "The Freedom of Information Act exists to give citizens a clear view of what government officials are doing on their behalf. When that view is denied, the next resort is the courts."

State Department spokesman Alec Gerlach declined to comment. He had previously cited the department's heavy annual load of FOIA requests — 19,000 last year — in saying that the department "does its best to meet its FOIA responsibilities." He said the department takes requests "first in, first out," but noted that timing depends on "the complexity of the request."

Carroll said the AP intends to file additional requests using FOIA and other tools following the disclosure last week that Clinton used a private email account run on a server on her property outside New York while working at the State Department.

Clinton on Tuesday said she sent and received about 60,000 emails from her personal email address in her four years as President Barack Obama's secretary of state. She said roughly half were work-related, which she turned over to the State Department, while deleting tens of thousands more that were personal in nature.

The department says it will take several months to review the material Clinton turned over last year. Once the review is complete, the department said, the emails will be posted online.

The AP had sought Clinton-related correspondence before her use of a personal email account was publicly known, although Wednesday's court filing alleges that the State Department is responsible for including emails from that account in any public records request.

"State's failure to ensure that Secretary Clinton's governmental emails were retained and preserved by the agency, and its failure timely to seek out and search those emails in response to AP's requests, indicate at the very least that State has not engaged in the diligent, good-faith search that FOIA requires," says AP's legal filing.

http://www.ap.org/Content/AP-In-The-News/2015/AP-sues-State-Department-seeking-access-to-Clinton-records

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
20. Convenience for Hillary
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:30 AM
May 2016

and inconvenience and more for everyone else. By the way I don't buy the convenience excuse.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
16. Oh, well it must have metastasized then. I can think of other people and
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:07 AM
May 2016

situations in her close circle affected by it.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
18. Haha yep - too true.
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:14 AM
May 2016

It floors me but then I realize a lot of those folks/bots are about as transparent as space itself. The long time switcheroos however I have no reasonable explanation for.





 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
14. Say, for the sake of conjecture, there *was a legitimate reason.
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:03 AM
May 2016

If I give her that, then it must be something more severe to warrant an actual FBI investigation. What could that reason be? (posed since I read in this thread that all the installation etc was approved, reasonable, and legitimate- not to refute your post, but to expand the thinking)

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
19. Obfuscation of shady dealings?
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:17 AM
May 2016

That seems to be the most rational - one can fill in what shady dealings they may be ad nauseam.

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