Hijacking of Nevada State Convention by Camp Hillary IN PROGRESS.

[reformist2]

Last edited Sat May 14, 2016, 05:33 PM - Edit history (1)

The Empire is striking back, and it's ugly.

Revised delegate count: 1693/1662, vs 1245/1149 for the preliminary count at 9:30. Even if you believe these latest delegate numbers - and I do not - they still adopted rules before over 1000 delegates were counted.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4jc6h7/nevada_goes_back_to_hillary_clnton_1245/

[Renew Deal]

1. Why didn't Bernies people show up? Did they not know?

Blah blah blah

[reformist2]

2. They took a preliminary vote count before the official start time, which is against the rules.

Now they're sticking with that prelim vote count, even though there are more Bernie delegates there.

[Hortensis]

23. The pattern on charges like this is that,

after Bernie supporters go up in flames of outrage, for days, they turn out not to be true.

Maybe skip the headaches and numbed fingers for now and just wait to see what's happening? Keeping in mind that with a lead in the delegates the expected outcome favored Hillary going in?

On February 20, caucus day, Clinton was awarded 6,440 delegates to county conventions statewide, compared with Sanders’ 5,785. Eight delegates were uncommitted.

From the Las Vegas Sun, a summary of the past, discussion of what happens at this convention, and the next step.

In Nevada, 23 of the state’s 43 delegates to the Democratic National Convention are apportioned based on the presidential preference of caucus attendees by congressional district. That means Clinton will receive 13 delegates and Sanders will receive 10.

Democratic county convention: The delegates who were elected at their caucuses attended their county conventions April 2. However, not all of the delegates showed up, allowing alternate delegates to take their seats. Because about 600 more Sanders supporters than Clinton supporters showed up, Sanders had a surprise victory at the Clark County convention.
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Statewide, Sanders received 2,124 delegates to the county convention compared with Clinton’s 1,722.

Will that affect the outcome of the state convention? Maybe, but maybe not. The question now is how many of those delegates will turn out to the state convention.
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Democratic state convention, May 14: At the state convention, 12 delegates are allocated — seven at-large delegates and five others known as PLEO delegates (short for Party Leader and Elected Official). The seven at-large delegates are divvied up based on a party preference vote at the convention. The five PLEO delegates are elected by convention goers.

That means that should the proportion of Sanders to Clinton delegates to the state convention remain the same, Sanders could expect to win four at-large delegates, while Clinton would win three. Of the five PLEO delegates, Sanders would be expected to receive three while Clinton would win two.

Including the delegates assigned based on the caucus-level presidential preference, that would bring the delegate counts to: 18 for Clinton, 17 for Sanders.

However, there also are eight superdelegates that Nevada will send to the Democratic National Convention. So far, four have declared for Clinton, one for Sanders, and the other three haven’t specified their preference. In Clinton's corner are: Sen. Harry Reid, Rep. Dina Titus, state Sen. Ruben Kihuen and Andres Ramirez, vice chairman of the Democratic National Committee's Hispanic Caucus. National committeewoman Erin Bilbray has thrown her support behind Sanders, and the three undecided superdelegates are state party chairwoman Roberta Lange, state party first chair Chris Wicker and DNC at-large member Artie Blanco.

So, as of now, Nevada’s delegate count looks something like this (though the numbers are not set in stone): 22 for Clinton, 18 for Sanders, 3 undecided.
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Democratic national convention, July 25-28: Those 43 delegates from Nevada will attend the Democratic National Convention in July in Philadelphia. There, they will cast their vote for their chosen candidates.

Unless her trajectory changes, Clinton is expected to clinch the number of delegates needed to win the nomination. Currently, she has 1,683 pledged delegates and 522 superdelegates for a total of 2,205 out of 2,383 delegates needed for the nomination. Sanders, meanwhile, has 1,362 pledged delegates and 39 superdelegates, for a total of 1,401.

Sanders could concede before the convention, as Clinton did to Barack Obama in 2008, though he has indicated that he would not.

[kiva]

63. I'm sitting right here and it is true.

[msongs]

3. oh look its reddit. must true, everything on reddit is actual fact and true....like on twitter nt

[reformist2]

6. A lot of the links are to eyewitness tweets, which is better than the asinine comments here.

[Hortensis]

25. No. We're been here before. A bunch of times and the

initial charges of corruption are ALWAYS FALSE. Stay cool.

[reddread]

32. thats right. I remember "English Only!"

[Henhouse]

11. lol....The Berners were singing a different tune the last time around. n/t

[KingFlorez]

4. Clinton won Nevada, so things are going as they should

[reformist2]

10. Except that they lost the second round, fair in square. They are trying to steal it now.

[KingFlorez]

12. Sanders never won Nevada

Clinton did. End of story.

[Adrahil]

26. Wait, so it's "fair and square" for....

Bernie supporters to overturn the caucus results in the second round, but if Hillary wins at the state level, in line with the caucuses, then it's "stealing."

Got it. #bernielogic

[grossproffit]

46. Wait, what?

[Demsrule86]

53. Nothing fair about that

Bernie Cruz Sanders did not earn those votes and now he doesn't have them...good!

[Demsrule86]

66. The second round was not people voting now was it

It was merely about delegates...and Bernie stole them...now Clinton got them back ...good for her...

[NCTraveler]

5. Nevada was a big win for Clinton.

#hillyes

[MattP]

7. Caucus rules unfair

[AzDar]

8. K & R

[reformist2]

16. It's sad watching the Hillary supporters applaud the flagrant rule violations going on.

[potisok]

9. Is there a live feed anywhere of the Nevada State Convention ???

[Henhouse]

14. Live feed via Periscope

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/731547382454702080

[Zynx]

13. Well, she did win the caucuses so the Sanders people bitching about this is kinda silly.

[JonLeibowitz]

15. The state convention is part of the caucus process.

[reformist2]

20. They ignore the fact that her delegates didn't show up, and think it's OK to steal it at state level

These are people who don't care about the rule of law. They are of the mindset of the Clintons - win at all costs.

[Zynx]

41. You're the ones that think it's okay to sneak around and try to subvert the will of the voters.

So much for a candidate of the people.

[seabeyond]

70. Clinton won the initial vote and Sanders people felt it was just fine stealing at county. Right?

[Zynx]

40. The will of Nevada voters was clear. This seems to accurately reflect their will.

[Demsrule86]

56. Yeah and they figured out that

Sanders, people as well as Cruz people, are low enough to steal delegates they did not earn.

[Henhouse]

17. First credentials report: 1,245 Clinton delegates; 1,149 Sanders delegates. 373 Clinton alts, 326 Sa

https://twitter.com/phase_xii

Benjamin
‏@phase_xii Benjamin

For Nevada state convention. Hillary has more supporters in the room.Benjamin added,

Megan Messerly @meganmesserly
First credentials report: 1,245 Clinton delegates; 1,149 Sanders delegates. 373 Clinton alts, 326 Sanders alts.

[NCTraveler]

29. Just over 52% Clinton.

She won with 52.6%.

[fun n serious]

18. Too bad Bernie people didn't show up! nt

[reformist2]

21. They did show up. The prelim count was wrong, but the officials ignored the crowd.

[fun n serious]

24. Like those letters sent to Hill delegates

telling them they didn't have to show up?

[kiva]

64. Those letters were sent to all delegates.

But you know that, don't you?

[MattP]

19. So Hillary won and Bernie wants the delegates and Hillary is "stealing"

What kind of twisted pretzel logic is this

[fun n serious]

22. I'm guessing Bernie supporters

hate waking up early on a Saturday. Hillary won Nev, Bernie camp sent fake letters to delegates saying they did not have to show up and now you cry foul. OK

[riversedge]

30. Karma is wonderful at times (payback for Bernie Supporter sending fake letters!)

[ViseGrip]

37. Support her cheating now, and this KARMA will come back again, to her.

When Bernie wins!

[Demsrule86]

47. She won Nevada

If anyone is cheating it would be Bernie Sanders supporters. She stopped them cold...good for her.

[riversedge]

27. Bernie’s Moment Has Passed

Bernie’s Moment Has Passed http://bluenationreview.com/bernies-moment-has-passed/ … #Hillary #Trump #Bernie


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...............Bernie Sanders has brought lots of good ideas and energy to the 2016 race; he has helped spread our progressive ideals. But Hillary is now the one carrying the progressive message forward.

The race will run its course, but the Bernie moment is gone.

[Demsrule86]

49. Thanks for the link

it was very interesting and true.

[riversedge]

28. There has been no hijacking.

[hopemountain]

31. "preliminary" count according to official

final count later today... preliminary and not the official final count.

[Wellstone ruled]

33. This is the Harry Reid Show.

Found that out from the get go at our Caucus's. Harry is all in with legacy tour here. Here is what appears to his game. Hillary for Pres,Masto -Cortes as his replacement. CD 4 will go to his one time aide. CD 3 will go to another one time aide. And he is active in electing a Democrat Legislature with a Democratic Governor in 2018. This is pay back to all the Rethugs who stabbed him in the back through the years and we Bernie supporters are just to be heard that is that.

[Progressive dog]

35. WAH, Hillary's camp got the delegates back

and the Bernie supporters are having conniptions again.

[smiley]

38. The magic disappearing delegates return!

Get em' while their hot folks!

[Beacool]

36. She DID win NV.

Is there any state where some of you will graciously accept that Sanders lost? In the states that Hillary has lost, I don't see this kind of drama from her campaign and her supporters.

[reformist2]

42. Her supporters didn't show up to the county convention, and she lost.

[Demsrule86]

67. No one ever did that before except Cruz and of course Bernie...

Who would have expected a Democrat to behave as Bernie has...she won. He should have respected that win...he has no respect for democracy and rejects the will of the voters way to often for my taste.

[seabeyond]

69. "Who would have expected a Democrat to behave as Bernie has" Oh wait. He is NOT a Democrat. Nt

[Demsrule86]

72. So true

He is no Democrat...and I am glad. What he did was wrong.

[seabeyond]

68. Cause Sanders people sent out letters saying they didn't need to show up. Ya, honest that.

[AzDar]

39. Even Hillary Supporters Are Protesting NV State Convention Cheats...

https://twitter.com/jaycamikenGL/status/731553082409025536





SHAME ON ANYONE CHEERING THIS!!

[reformist2]

43. Anyone cheering this, I'm NOT with them!

[pa28]

44. Fascinating Reddit thread.

Bernie's continued presence in this campaign turns over new rocks every day showing how arrogant and corrupt the party has become. Pretty sickening to behold the cheating in broad daylight but we need to see it to change it.

[reformist2]

48. The establishment is rotten to the core. But the face of it is so bland that it's hard to notice if

you aren't paying close attention. The "banality of evil", as Hannah Arendt once called it.

[dana_b]

45. even a Hillary supporter knows when things are wrong:

https://twitter.com/adryenn/status/731546996209684481

An elderly supporter decided not to stand up and go to the Hillary side because she knows that the way they are doing the count is wrong.

It's about fairness and democracy.

[Joob]

59. I'm actually surprised. That actually gives me hope, despite what's going on.

[dana_b]

61. right?! Me too n/t

[dana_b]

50. oooo... another one - "NO CONFIDENCE! NO CONFIDENCE!!"

https://twitter.com/meglanker/status/731543697607643136

Good for them! Stay there all damn day and protest, protest!!

[AzDar]

51. Barbra Boxer ( Why Is She Even There?) Says:

?1

[tularetom]

54. Now there's somebody I've lost a lot of respect for over the past year or so

[reformist2]

55. She went on to say that booing her was equivalent to "booing America."

[dana_b]

60. omg! She's losing it

She is that egotistical now? Or delusional?

[WolverineDG]

71. And yet they'll be confused as to why we're not donating to Her Majesty's Campaign

smh

I have friends who are really good people who support HRC. It makes me sick that she does not deserve their money or support.

[Thinkingabout]

52. Has there ever been undercutting by the Sanders campaign?

[grossproffit]

57. OMG! GET THE INSANE PROGRESSIVE ON THIS NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

[JoePhilly]

65. !!!!!!!!!!

[reformist2]

58. Revised totals show Hilary has only 31 more delegates than Bernie. This is how fraud happens.

[grossproffit]

62. No, this is how libel and slander happens.