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SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:12 PM May 2016

Sanders campaign admits it wants to hurt Clinton, even if that means helping Trump

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/19/1528489/-Sanders-campaign-admits-it-wants-to-hurt-Clinton-even-if-that-means-helping-Trump

Bernie Sanders has no plausible path to secure the Democratic nomination: To earn a majority of pledged delegates, he'd need to win 68 percent of those left outstanding, even though he’s only won less than 46 percent of available delegates to date. But instead of acknowledging this reality, Sanders’ campaign is now taking a scorched-earth approach toward its opponents—even if that means helping Donald Trump win the White House.

An alarming new report from the New York Times details Sanders' destructive ramp-up, explaining that the senator is now hoping to "inflict[...] a heavy blow on Hillary Clinton" and is "willing to do some harm to Mrs. Clinton" so that he might "arrive at the Philadelphia convention with maximum political power."

And the Sanders campaign is quite insistent that it doesn't care whether its attempt to seize this supposed fount of power jeopardizes Democrats' chances at holding the White House, as long as it keeps Sanders' non-existent hopes alive:
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Sanders campaign admits it wants to hurt Clinton, even if that means helping Trump (Original Post) SFnomad May 2016 OP
This was never said. I have been looking. oldandhappy May 2016 #1
And the expect us to vote for Hillary in November? Chasstev365 May 2016 #7
It was a headline in yesterday's NYT... here's a screenshot tweeted earlier by Paul Krugman: ucrdem May 2016 #16
No has said this but that headline writer Cal Carpenter May 2016 #18
It's part of the Bern it down strategy... scscholar May 2016 #2
And in the right corner, we have Hillary's Scrotched Earth policy nc4bo May 2016 #5
It's working kaleckim May 2016 #8
And she's ready to take on Trump????????? TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #10
He is a better candidate than tRump... scscholar May 2016 #19
If she thinks Bern is playing hard, she TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #21
The clintons have and will be the only ones that hurt themselves. trump nor Sanders can do any juxtaposed May 2016 #3
Sound kinda desperate, don't they? nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #4
Clintons wounds are self-inflicted. HooptieWagon May 2016 #6
Another unsolicited contribution to the Onion. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #9
Link to quote kplzthx frylock May 2016 #11
No one said that but the NYT Cal Carpenter May 2016 #12
And obvious kaleckim May 2016 #17
This is the third op-ed I've seen based on the NYT op-ed Scootaloo May 2016 #13
This Is Just Another Feeble Attempt To Demonize Bernie.... global1 May 2016 #14
Now there is some high level projection. RichVRichV May 2016 #15
No the Hillary camp is doing a fine job on their own. The lies they told about NV will NEVER jillan May 2016 #20

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
18. No has said this but that headline writer
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:51 PM
May 2016

There is no direct quote or attribution of the word 'harm' in that NYT article.

Yet it is repeated and believed, over and over.

Someone here at DU started an OP with that headline yesterday and added quotes around "harm clinton", reinforcing the belief that someone in Sanders' campaign actually said it.

I've seen no evidence of that. None.

I'm pretty sure it is horseshit.

kaleckim

(651 posts)
8. It's working
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:30 PM
May 2016

to alienate lots of people, and is insane given how horribly she's polling nationally and in key swing states. This propaganda (and that's all it is, who the hell will fall for this that isn't already lost to logic to begin with) is so short-sighted. I think that they just assume that they'll throw the kitchen sink at him and the left will just fall in line. Stupid decision, shouldn't be assumed for many reasons.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
21. If she thinks Bern is playing hard, she
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:09 AM
May 2016

ain't seen nothin' yet.

Trump and the long knives are itching to carve her up.

What she's getting from Bern is patty-cake compared to what she'll be facing.

 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
3. The clintons have and will be the only ones that hurt themselves. trump nor Sanders can do any
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:17 PM
May 2016

harm to an already harmed package

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. Clintons wounds are self-inflicted.
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:23 PM
May 2016

Sanders has run a clean campaign and gone easy on her. If she can't handle that, she's def unprepared to handle Trump in the GE, let alone Putin at the negotiating table. Maybe she should just wrap up her campaign now, and start preparing her criminal charges defense.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
12. No one said that but the NYT
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:40 PM
May 2016

They put it in the headline and repeated it in the article. But it was never in quotes or attributed to anyone.

That headline has been repeated and quoted continually since then and it gives the impression that it is a direct quote from the Sanders campaign.

It is so fucked up.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
13. This is the third op-ed I've seen based on the NYT op-ed
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:42 PM
May 2016

Said op-ed from the NYT has no substantive basis for its claims. It's fifteen hundred words by three writers, of pure blathering nonsense, based on the premise that - jeeze oh pete - Sanders plans to go to the last primary. Everything past that statement is wild extrapolation and expression of editorial bias.

What I'm saying is that the NYT piece is pure shit. Not even bullshit, it's pig diarrhea. All the stacked-up op-eds that cite it, such as this one from Dkos, are just compounding hte liquid stench, and making ther authors and proponents look like dumbfucks.

global1

(25,261 posts)
14. This Is Just Another Feeble Attempt To Demonize Bernie....
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:42 PM
May 2016

and the Hillary supporters are falling for it hook, line and sinkHer.

Bernie has stuck to the issues this whole campaign and intends to do so until California & D.C.

I can't fathom why - if the Hillary supporters know the math is against him and they know he can't win - why are they so afraid of him that they have to demonize him?

Do they actually have doubts about their candidate?

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
15. Now there is some high level projection.
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:42 PM
May 2016

Considering only one campaign has said it wants to "disqualify" the other.


How dare another candidate be in the race to win it! We will have our coronation by god! All you peasants need stop interfering!


And here I thought she was this battle hardened candidate ready for anything thrown her way. Is she strong or is she weak? Would you pick a stance already.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
20. No the Hillary camp is doing a fine job on their own. The lies they told about NV will NEVER
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:54 PM
May 2016

be forgotten.

They crossed the line this time.

You cannot attack other democrats for 2 days straight and think they will ever support her, ever.
The proverbial gauntlet has been thrown down.

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