Hillary keeps pissing on California

[pinebox]

First, "I no debate, I am winner! Me me ME! You go home now California, I WINNING!!" and now, this.

The relevant portion of the transcript is below:

{at 10:40 in the video}

CUOMO (CNN): So you get into the general election, if you’re the nominee for your party, and —
CLINTON: I will be the nominee for my party, Chris. That is already done, in effect. There is no way that I won’t be.
CUOMO: There’s a Senator from Vermont who has a different take on that —
CLINTON: Well —
CUOMO: He says he’s going to fight to the end —
CLINTON: Yeah, it’s strange.

It’s hard to take Clinton’s first comment as anything but a statement that nothing California could possibly do in its primary could change the outcome of the Democratic race — even though it’s now widely accepted that Clinton can’t win the primary with pledged delegates alone. This means that the Democratic nomination will be decided by super-delegates, who don’t vote for more than two months — at the Democratic National Convention, to be held in Philadelphia on July 25th. As the DNC has repeatedly advised the media, those super-delegates can and often do change their minds — and are free to do so up until they actually vote this summer.

CNN analyst Carl Bernstein noted several times Wednesday night that between mid-May and late July countless things could happen that would cause super-delegates to move toward Sanders en masse.

A win in the California primary could be chief among them.

As has been exhaustively explained to both Clinton and the mainstream media over the past year, and as Clinton herself says during the interview above — “the name of the game is delegates” — should enough super-delegates switch their votes to Sanders in late July on the argument that he’s more electable than Clinton in the fall (the conventional metric used by super-delegates forced to decide a primary since 1984), Clinton will not, in fact, be the Democratic nominee. Indeed many believe that a Clinton loss in the California primary — coupled with a string of polls showing Clinton tied with or losing to Donald Trump in every battleground state as well as behind the unpredictable billionaire nationally — could cause super-delegates to switch their votes in large numbers.

The most recent national poll showed that voters consider Trump substantially more trustworthy than Clinton.

[Renew Deal]

1. Hillary will hit 2383 before the polls close in CA

[pinebox]

4. She may BUT we will see

At this point, I'm not so sure. Possible? Yes for sure. But anything right now is possible.

[lewebley3]

96. Hillary has won the vote contest: and California people love Hillary

[riversedge]

104. You do Sanders no honor by writing such a nasty OP.

[SCantiGOP]

133. That is the SOP

Of the Person who started the thread. I have had that person on Ignore a long time but that doesn't block OPs.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. With super delegates

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There I fixed it for you. Neither will reach those without them. And they should not be counted until the convention by the sacred rules that even DWS quoted earlier in the year

[NWCorona]

35. They so want this race to be called right now.

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. I know

[Mnpaul]

56. There must be a reason behind that

there sure seems to be a reason to stop it right now. Is there a magical number of delegates that Bernie is approaching? Is it the number of states won? There is something in play here and they aren't telling the whole story.

[nadinbrzezinski]

64. I got that feeling too

Something is sending this to overdrive

[Mnpaul]

69. If Hillary couldn't make it to the convention for some reason

They would want Sanders out so they could pick a replacement.

[nadinbrzezinski]

70. That is part of it

[lapfog_1]

106. bingo

[hellofromreddit]

139. As a fortune cookie once told me, "Quit win youre a head."

(sic)

[Mike__M]

60. DWS's sacred rules!

Gak! I must have awoken in a spiritually inverted alternate universe.
There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's . . .

[nadinbrzezinski]

62. I know. I find it humorous how malleable

The sacred texts are actually

[NWCorona]

34. The supers had their primary and voted already?

[Duckhunter935]

55. I thought the DNC

Explicitly said do not include super delegates numbers until they vote at the election. They have said this several times.

[CorporatistNation]

141. NOT WITHOUT THE SUPER DELEGATES... WHICH DO NOT>>> NOT COUNT UNTIL JULY!

Quit fooling yourself! This story has DEEP CRED! The Hillary "fans" who ignore reality are in DEEP DENIAL... as is Hillary...

The Nomination Can ... BE TAKEN AWAY FROM HER AND GIVEN TO BERNIE BY THE SUPER DELEGATES... IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN WINNING THE PRESIDENCY INDEED THEY WILL... READ THAT... WILL... DO JUST THAT!

[Trust Buster]

2. The time for debate between Democrats is over. Hillary has procured the nomination.

[Mike__M]

65. There's that Hillary Math again

Given that
A + B + C + D = X
where X is a foregone conclusion,
then if A, B and D are known,
it follows that
C = whatever it takes.

[NCTraveler]

3. She isn't pissing on Cali.

The nominee is known. Cali will be voting. Your issue is with process, not Clinton.

[pangaia]

6. Clinton IS process.

Bernie is a human being

[NCTraveler]

8. We are Borg!!!

Perfect parody but a bit harsh on them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Actually this talk with suppress the vote

And we really need people to come out for down ballot measures...mostly to overcome, hopefully the shennanigans. Also these calls speak of well...fear and remind me of florida in 2000

[NCTraveler]

21. Simply knowing the nominee at this point suppresses the vote.

Once again, process.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Thanks my minimum wage workers thank you

That is why my local Donkeys did not endorse either. Because they want people to show up. You think they cannot do math? Process.

But really, we thank you.

One more reason why I left the Democratic Party by the way

[NCTraveler]

42. Unlike you and your workers, I pay my employees a livable wage.

I think we all should and it's a big part of the reason I'm a democrat.

Step up to the plate and do better for "your minimum wage workers." You can do that and fight for a living wage at the same time.

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. My workers are the people I cover in the streets

That you assume that I have employees is your issue.

By the way, read into prop I for the city of San Diego and why it is even on the ballot. But folks that want to suppress the vote, and both parties do it... We are what two weeks from it? Fucking have patience. I really want prop I to pass and you are not helping...well Clinton is not helping

[NCTraveler]

51. You claimed them as yours.

It's great that you are fighting for a livable wage. I do as well and practice what I preach. My lowest paid employee gets well over minimum wage. Happy to fight for this with you.

[nadinbrzezinski]

52. Ok I could have said my friends

But that is about 35 percent of the workers in this city. My workers are my workers in both the private and public sector. I am sorry that this language is alien to upper class Americans. And I mean that. It is alien. So stop trying to reestablish regular voting patterns in this city for example. We need them to show up. And when I said shennanigans I also mean that

[NCTraveler]

71. Proud to fight for a livable wage with you.

It's so important. Great job Nadine. We are in this fight together.



I practice what I preach and fight for a living wage for all.

[pangaia]

5. " I will be the nominee for my party, Chris. That is already done, in effect. "

"There is no way that I won’t be."

You know.. I can imagine her having said the exact same thing one year ago. Or, at least that was the game plan. They already figured it was a done deal..

But then, something strange that way came, in the shape of an "unknown" frumpy, balding old goat with a mind like a steel trap, the heart of a lion, scrappy as a chihuahua and who knew, in the word of a Thai Buddhist monk, "what was what."

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[still_one]

12. and Sanders promises his supporters there will be a contested convention. Only difference

is that Sanders doesn't know what he is talking about, and Hillary can do math

[pangaia]

15. You missed the entire point.

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. I don't think tjey realize how transparent the Dedazo has been

[pangaia]

38. OK, nadine. I admit, I had to look that up..

YUP !!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. Pick a copy of democracy inc

He makes good points about how I have moved back to Mexico. Ah dictablanda.

[redstateblues]

9. BSS pissed on CA when they treated Sen Boxer

like some kind of bum. I'm sure CA will remember

[pinebox]

13. Barbara Boxer feared for her life in NV like Hillary dodging sniper fire

never mind the whole middle finger thing and telling Bernie supporters to basically get bent.
Crazy people are crazy.

[bahrbearian]

36. She was surrounded by hostile's , she had no recourse, but to antagonize them, she was afraid.

That's flight or fight. Or in her case antagonize and fight while surrounded by SS and Police.

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. Police. Senators do not rate secret service. The plain clothes

Are detectives

[bahrbearian]

45. So boxer has no SS?

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. Nope

The leaders do...the speaker on the house side does, but that is because they are in the line of presidential succession.

[lewebley3]

101. Boxer was attacked by Sanders people: Hilary won the state:

[lewebley3]

100. Hillary won the state: Sanders people were there to make trouble only

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. And then we have video of a very scared boxer

Flipping the crowd and telling them fuck you. Not as simple as you think. Plus she's not on the ballot.

[pangaia]

40. No. She treated "them" like some kind of bum.

It was just stunning how insulting she was.

[lewebley3]

97. You are right: Sanders people have not respect for others:and they are losing

[firebrand80]

10. Is that what that bathroom break was all about? nt

[still_one]

11. Hillary doesn't talk like "I no debate, I am winner", etc. So I don't know what you think

you are trying to portray here, but you failed miserably.

I am from California. I have no idea where YOU are from, but there is a lot of support for Hillary here in California.

Maybe you should get outside more often

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. And a lot of support for Bernie too

Care to join me in National city today? We are there to cover the rally. Second one in San Diego. Hmm and Bill is in north county today. That means this is going to be a contested primary.

[still_one]

77. Except that isn't what I was addressing, I was addressing the OPs false premise that Clinton

doesn't have support in California.

Care to join me in Northern California where I will be doing Canvassing door-to-door today?

It isn't about contested primaries, Sanders said it would be a contest convention, and that is garbage

Do you really believe either candidate will win by more than 30%?

I'll make that prediction, NO

[nadinbrzezinski]

79. We shall see

Neither is getting the total of the PDs needed.

This is still a race. Deal with it, or not. And it is because neither will have the PDs

[still_one]

80. You want to bet that the majority of Super Delegates will go with whoever has the

most pledged delegates?

You deal with it or not. I will book mark our dialog, and we will see, whether it is Sanders or Clinton, which ever one has the most pledged delegates will get the most Super Delegates

[nadinbrzezinski]

81. That will not happen until the convention

That the MSM behaves in that misconduct does not mean I will. It is called fucking process. This is going to the convention, deal with it. She will not be the presumptive nominee for that technical reason. Her statements help to suppress the vote in this state. Congrats. Depressing the vote, not just for republicans anymore.

[still_one]

86. believe what you want Nadin, you know everything as usual, even when you are wrong

[nadinbrzezinski]

87. So the supers will vote on June 7

Or at the convention at the floor vote?

[lewebley3]

102. You are right: the People of Calf love Hillary: Sanders is melting down

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. ...and pissing off Californians.

[lewebley3]

98. Californians love Hillary: Sanders people are making things up because he is losing

[yuiyoshida]

120. And do you Live here in

California? I do...

[ucrdem]

125. California is Clinton country, no doubt there.

So far no elected Dems have endorsed him that I'm aware of save the mayor of Garden Grove.

[yuiyoshida]

129. Gee a lot of people here MUST have MISSED your message

I see so many BERNIE signs.

[Sparkly]

19. Unless I'm missing something, she didn't say anything about California.

She said that "IN EFFECT," it's done and she WILL be the nominee.

That's not "pissing on California."

[edgineered]

85. True, maybe her is is wasn't was was or may may.

We the misled become so very confused with such direct statements. It was just yesterday while playing with crayons that I drew two legs on a capital D and changed it into an R.

[Zorro]

20. Clinton will win California

and probably win big.

[pinebox]

22. Uh, nope. Cali will go Bernie

The most liberal state in America isn't going to vote for a Dempublican, I'm sorry.

[Zorro]

23. Do you live in California?

[reddread]

25. California will truly embarrass Hillary Clinton

at least it would, if she could be.

[Zorro]

27. Nope

California isn't Berkeley.

[reddread]

30. Berkeley isnt Berkeley

and wherever the hell you are from, there must be multitudes of Bernie stickers up and down your street
with nary a peep from the shy and reclusive, yet clearly ubiquitous Clinton supporter.
stealth species.

California will crush Hillary Clinton right in front of your eyes.

[Zorro]

37. That's some mighty strong dope you're smokin'

Been living in California for the better part of four decades now, and we don't do bumper stickers in my neighborhood.

[frylock]

92. We do them in mine, and I've seen more support for Ted Cruz..

than I have for Hillary down here in purple San Diego.

[reddread]

130. Classism does seem to be a common theme among Hillary supporters

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. I do, and I am not going to make any predictions.

It truly depends of who comes out to vote. If the, to use my city, south of the 8 crowd comes out and votes, sanders wins and prop I passes, if the north of the 8, which usually votes in primaries, comes out prop I fails and she wins. The freeway is local version of the railroad tracks. These efforts in my mind are to reestablish the usual voting patterns of a regular primary.

[pinebox]

33. My second home :) Hello Moreno Valley!

[lewebley3]

103. Sanders is going lose: this the problem with Sander people you don't live

in the real world. The poor and the elderly need a Dem president they
live in the real world.

[frylock]

91. Nah, we're not doing that.

It's pretty obvious by the actions of the Party that they know she is going to lose in Cali.

[tabasco]

28. What a stupid, weak candidate she is.

Idiot babble like this is why she will lose the general election.

[reddread]

32. imagine a hostile California delegation inside?

there will be epic California Party politics in the next month or so.
all manner of misbehavior. way too many power hungry interests
and too many loose ends.

its a perfect storm.

[nadinbrzezinski]

54. Some of the things I have heard over the grapevine

Yup

[Zorro]

57. Yale Law, SoS, Senator

Looks like that's what qualifies as weak and stupid in Bernieworld.

[tabasco]

90. George AWOL Bush was Yale MBA.

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James Inhofe is a senator.

As Secretary of State, H. Clinton strongly advocated for the Libya intervention, which Obama has called "the greatest mistake of my presidency."

You were saying?

[lewebley3]

99. Idiot babble is coming GOP fascist candidate Trump: Hillary tells truth very clearly

[Nonhlanhla]

31. What a vulgar headline.

And false too.

Plus Seth Abramson? The poor man's HAHA Goodman?

[pinebox]

47. Someone sounds mad about a urine reference

Are you upset "crap" and "ass" are shown on television shows like the Simpson's too?

It's not 1955 anymore . #sorrynotsorry

[Nonhlanhla]

63. You are mistaking

my distaste for the expression as a way to describe my candidate, with anger. I don't really do anger when it comes to politics. I leave that for Bernie supporters and Trump nuts. Although Trump does make me angry - gotta make an exception for soemone like him. And HIM I'll call an asshole.

[pinebox]

89. Uh huh

No I am asking you a question. You said my headline was vulgar, I basically said it isn't.
Bernie supporters get angry? Funny thing, like in NV with being charged with stalking and punching a woman? Oh wait.

[Nonhlanhla]

117. So?

One idiot Hillary supporter does not mean that it isn't still true that the Betnie movement is built on anger.

And your headline IS vulgar. And false.

[pinebox]

136. See, here's the difference between you and I

First off, you're obviously considerably older if you consider the word "pissing" as vulgar.
Secondly, the Bernie movement is built on 3 things;

1) Hope
2) Us
3) Disenfranchisement

You're obvious issue is with the third but you know what? People have a right to be pissed off. The middle class since the 60s has shrunk over 50%. Boomers got theirs, millenials & Gen X'ers are fighting for theirs. We want the same things which were afforded to our elders and there is NOTHING wrong in fighting for that.

I'm not really sure you get what this is all about. Do you remember the days when people weren't drowning in student loan debt, when you could get by and make it with a minimum wage job, when you weren't claiming bankruptcy for medical bills? See, that's what this is about. Are people angry? You're damn right! Millions will never own homes while we have a candidate who makes more than a teacher does in their lifetime over 2 speeches.

There. That's what's up!

[Nonhlanhla]

137. And yet the people who probably have most right to be angry

namely minorities and women, the very people who are statistically more likely to be poor, who suffer from wage discrimination, are the ones overwhelmingly supporting Hillary Clinton. Because we don't buy Bernie's pie-in-the-sky empty promises.

And thanks for the ageism. Your expression is vulgar. No matter what my age. And it is false. Hillary is not denigrating California in any way. The numbers are just such that Bernie can no longer win. And that is what you folks cannot comprehend.

[pinebox]

138. There's where you're wrong

Minorities and women? Why are you dividing based on gender and skin color? What a moot point, people all over have a right to be angry. Student loan debt and working your ass off and getting jack crack for it doesn't choose nor care if you're a woman or what color your skin is.

Wage discrimination? You want to know what wage discriminating is? It's working 50 hours a week in fast food at a fry station that gets to 480 degrees and making $8.95/hr and trying to survive on that. People make so little they can't even afford the food at McDonald's. Are you aware that Walmart has the highest number of employees on food stamps who work FT? Yet Walmart, despite making and profiting billions each and every year, is subsidized by tax payers.

People are literally suffering. You ignore that. Maybe the next time you go through a drive-thru you can think about that. You say Bernie has pie-in-the-sky promises and there's the difference. You don't want to fight, you want complacency despite the real unemployment rate sucks and millions in red states are dying from not having health care. Mellencamp sang it best; "you gotta stand for something or you're gonna fall for anything". What is it YOU stand for? I'm guessing the status quo. That very things which is forcing the people who built the bridges to sleep under them.

Wasn't ageism, it was simply a comment. Ageism would be something along the lines of "you're old, you're dying soon, you're vote doesn't mean jack", that is ageism. Sorry but it isn't vulgar and my comments aren't false either. What you don't get is and what you don't understand is why hasn't the most privileged and most famous woman in the world put away a guy who had 1% name recognition.

For that, go ahead and re-read above what I wrote.

[Nonhlanhla]

140. You are telling me nothing that I don't already know

I know that a lot of people are suffering; that wages are too low; that the wealth cap has increased dramatically in the last 40 years. I've known joblessness and I've known hopelessnes, so you are preaching to the choir here. But you are exhibiting the typical Bernie supporter's denigrating of the fact that race and gender play a huge role in poverty, that everything is not reducible to class issues. And this is where you lost us. This and the fact that Bernie offers empty promises to fix these issues as if the president is some kind of dictator. Meanwhile you are totally ignoring Hillary's platform on these issues, and moreover you are ignoring the fact that she has already put away your guy - he just has not realized it yet. Like Bruce Willis' character in The Sixth Sense. And right now Hillary Clinton is the only person standing between us and Donald Trump. You think people are suffering now? Wait until we get a racist misogynist nincompoop megalomaniac like him in office.

And yes, your expression is vulgar. It's not the word "pissing" that bothers me, but the expression. It is vulgar. And it is false. Hillary Clinton is not denigrating California. They count - and they count a lot. But unless Bernie gets like 80% of the vote there, he will not surpass her in delegates. So it is essentially over.

[pinebox]

142. See, again, you call for complacency

Tell us what is Hillary fighting for? Tell us how she is going to help the millions who work in the service industry when she can't even support a living wage. You said again "Bernie offers empty promises" but what exactly is that based on? How will Hillary get anything done when she isn't even offering people hope and change?

No, sorry, maybe in your world its vulgar but in mine it's perfectly acceptable speech and honestly, you have a right your opinion, I also don't consider words like "crap" and "ass" bad either. But who cares, I'm not here to discuss the word police nor act like it, I'm here to point out the facts on your candidate and speak the truth when it comes to Bernie.

Sorry but Hillary most certainly did marginalize California. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/clinton-to-californians-y_b_10053848.html Hillary won't have enough enough delegates for the convention and if Bernie wins Cali, guess who has the momentum? It's already bad enough for Hillary with polls now showing Trump beating her.

Say what you will but in a GE atmosphere, Hillary is the weaker candidate and because of that, Trump will be elected. She has a trust and an enthusiasm problem.

[Nonhlanhla]

146. I'm sure that you think you're speaking the truth.

The fact that you still seem to think Bernie can win, however, suggests that you are not facing the truth.

[-none]

43. That is really sad.

The most recent national poll showed that voters consider Trump substantially more trustworthy than Clinton.

So how is Hillary doing so well then?

[pinebox]

144. Easily answered

Primaries happen in a bubble

[MrMickeysMom]

49. This portends the end of the Democratic Party's relationship to democracy...

Plain truth.

[lewebley3]

105. No, the Dem party will be stronger than ever: All Dem's are against Trumps fascism

[MrMickeysMom]

119. Actually, this will only play out in the fantasies of those who don't bother to look

[truedelphi]

128. You don't understand Bernie supporters then.

We are the ones who share the cartoon that features the sheeple being herded in to vote, and then cartoon viewer sees they get to cast their vote for either a bloody jawed cougar, or an equally scarey wolf.

Bernie saves us from voting against our own position. Hillary will only be a "Softer spoken" more polite version of Trump.

He says out loud what she thinks.

With either in office, Social Security will be privatized. On her part it would be the excuse "The Republicans have the power and I can't stop them." While he will figure it will add profit to the Bank Of Trump.

[lewebley3]

147. Yes, I do understand Sander supporters: they care about themselves: thats all

[LibDemAlways]

50. As a Californian, I can attest that Bernie will do

very well here. A loss for the "presumptive " nominee this late in the primary season in the most populous state would be humiliating.

Hillary is flat out wrong in suggesting that California doesn't matter. California voters are a fickle bunch. They turned out a Democratic governor in a recall election and replaced him with Schwarzenegger -- a horrible mistake but one that suggests that in California anything can happen and its electoral votes should not be taken for granted in the fall.

Bernie would win CA in the general. Hillary v. Trump would be closer.

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. Shhh don't tell anybody

But more than CA I think NY might be in play in the fall, which is why Bloomberg dropped his third party run threat.

Oh a d agreed we are fickle

[LibDemAlways]

68. With Trump on the ballot, NY will most likely be

up for grabs. I agree.

[pdsimdars]

58. She's not the "presumptive" nominee, but the "presumptuous" candidate.

[LibDemAlways]

66. Agree. And she may well get her ass handed to

her on June 7. The media has been noticeably silent on Bernie's victory in Oregon. Will be interesting to see if they bother covering a Bernie win in CA or just let it slide under the radar.

[pdsimdars]

95. And someone from Oregon posted that everyone stopped reporting on the results in Oregon but

as they get closer to completion, Bernie's margin is bigger.

[Fairgo]

127. hahaha...good one

I love a good snark in the morning.

[pdsimdars]

134. I like it all day long

[still_one]

84. I am a Californian also, and Hillary NEVER said or suggested that California does not matter

That was the OP, who doesn't know what hell he or she is talking about.

What happened with Schwarzenegger is not comparable.

My prediction is that on June 7 no candidate will win by 30% of the vote

[lewebley3]

107. Hillary has never said Calfornia doesn't matter: Its great base of support for Her

[pdsimdars]

59. I have heard that in some dysfunctional families that by abusing each other they get unity

Is that her strategy to unify the party, by being abusive to everyone?

[Ino]

72. It worked for my mother.

Everyone ended up unified against her.

[pdsimdars]

94. Exactly, and yet, that's the tactic Hillary and crew are zeroed in on. Makes no sense.

Maybe it makes them feel some sense of superiority and gratification, but it isn't going to unite anyone.

[lewebley3]

108. Most of the party is getting along: Sanders people went to Nevada to attack Hillary

[JoePhilly]

61. The search for outrages continues.

[Zorro]

67. Exactly.

Screamers gotta scream, I guess. Lost on the issues, but still demanding attention.

[yuiyoshida]

73. That's more of her arrogance ...

I already voted for Bernie, here in California. He may not win, but her telling California to "fuck off" will hurt her in the end.

[Zorro]

114. Yet Bernie telling Hillary voters to "fuck off" and their votes don't count is A-OK

Not a very nice thing for him to say, is it?

[yuiyoshida]

115. Hey mr. Zorro

SHOW me a link of BERNIE telling Hillary Voters to "FUCKOFF" ... i will wait.

so na baka na.

[Zorro]

116. Hey I read it the same place where you read Clinton told California to "fuck off"

[yuiyoshida]

118. ...

you need to take your comedy routine on the road, you will make millions.

[NCTraveler]

121. And that covers that. Nt

[MisterP]

74. pairs well with their attitude to CA

"There's nothing to debate," said one longtime ally and confidante. "There's nothing new. You can run these debates on loop. The attacks are all the same. And we cannot tolerate his tired, old attacks that continue to disunite the party at a time when it's supposed to be united."

A former Clinton aide said Sanders should be allowed to finish campaigning in the primary but he should also give Clinton the space she needs to focus on the general without creating "more friction."

"It's basically over," the former aide said. "He needs to work on uniting the party, not scheduling another debate."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280200151

[Mike__M]

75. The language of her satements

I will be the nominee;
Indictment is not going to happen:

She speaks as though these things are pre-ordained.

[JoePhilly]

76. Sanders supporters piss on Californians ...

... claim they're too stupid to understand math!!!

There, fixed your OP.

[jackhop]

78. Dems making sure Bernie supporters don't get delegates at the state conventions

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/democrats-consider-new-rules-avoid-convention-chaos

[PeaceNikki]

93. There's nothing in that article which indicates what you state.

Not a word.

[lewebley3]

110. Its over, the delegates don't matter anymore: Pull all Americans against Trump is important

[Tarc]

82. Why is the concept of a calendar so foreign to Sanders fans?

Some states have to go last.

Sometimes the election is wrapped up before it gets to the end.

Build a bridge and get over it.

[franannjo]

83. and i will not matter

There should and will be an independent candidat running.all clinton and trump fantasies will go up in smoke, as they well should.

[AzDar]

88. Hopefully, California will return the favor...

[treestar]

109. They have their primary last

Maybe all the states should have primaries on the same day, that would prevent this feeling of futility for the final primary voters.

[lewebley3]

111. Its smart to have Calif last: because its the most expensive:& Californians are good Dem's

The state is very well love and respected by the Dem party: even though
they are at the end.

[treestar]

112. A lot of delegates too

being so populous. A solid Dem state. Except for Raygun.

[anigbrowl]

113. I don't feel the least bit pissed on

Hillary will be getting plenty of votes in CA and it's fine with me if it's a victory lap for her by the day of the vote.

[LenaBaby61]

122. I don't feel the least bit pissed on...

Same here.

I cast my vote by mail for Hillary Clinton, and felt great doing it.

[tritsofme]

123. It's not Hillary's fault that California officials chose to make their voters irrelevant

California Democrats could have chosen an earlier more meaningful primary date, but they opted to go last, making sure their voters would not get a say until the race was more than likely settled, as it is today.

The race is over now, California didn't get to meaningfully participate because their state officials didn't allow them to, this is not something Hillary controlled.

[Ferd Berfel]

124. Whom ever decided that California's primary should be this late in the process

is mentally defective and should be fired.
Unless it was planned like this to protect Clinton and blow off the voters in the entire state

[eastwestdem]

126. And we are truly happy about this! The best possible outcome for Hillary is not to need the CA votes

because she is already so far ahead. Smart people know what she is talking about, those that want to stir the pot think that it is some kind of dis.

[barrow-wight]

131. Nothing she said is untrue.

There simply is no way she isn't the nominee.

Whether or not neither of them will hit 2383 is irrelevant. She probably won't and Bernie definitely can't.

However, Bernie would have to get 67%+ of the remaining pledged delegates just to be even with Hillary. It won't happen but even if it did, his lead would have to be significant for super delegates to switch, especially after he's declared war on the Democratic party and some of his acolytes have threatened peoples' children, called their places of work, and berated superdelegates daily.

She's not pissing on anyone. She's simply acknowledging the facts that some folks here are unwilling to see.

[silvershadow]

135. I notice the video was taken down. K&R for eyes. nt

[Beacool]

143. Abramson, as unfamiliar with reality as his colleague Goodman.

Hillary is not "pissing" on California. The reality is that she's far ahead enough in pledged delegates to clench the nomination. The rest is just Kabuki theater.

[pinebox]

145. Oh? get the Jarate!

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