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StayFrosty

(237 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:03 PM May 2016

Why does Bernie keep pissing on the south

Do southern states not matter?

This man wants to steal the nomination and by peddling his bullshit that he can flip the super delegates, he's effectively telling southern voters that their votes don't matter at all.

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Why does Bernie keep pissing on the south (Original Post) StayFrosty May 2016 OP
I think the South pissed on him before he could introduce himself. More early Clinton pandering. floriduck May 2016 #1
More excuses from a Sanders fan. riversedge May 2016 #4
If excuses = the truth, then yes. I agree. floriduck May 2016 #6
Yeap, and a good portion of those people have "syndromes" too right? #SandersSoSad uponit7771 May 2016 #36
Why in the hell did Hillary setup a fucking private server to conduct nc4bo May 2016 #2
More distraction. Try to stay focused on the OP-or start your own thread. riversedge May 2016 #5
Or what? This is a discussion board. Ask a silly question nc4bo May 2016 #9
Well, perhaps the poster was distracted... catnhatnh May 2016 #11
EMAILGHAZI!!! uponit7771 May 2016 #37
COMEYGHAZI!!! frylock May 2016 #40
Joined May 3 and 159 posts. Where you waiting for instructions from Dave Brock? floriduck May 2016 #3
Yet another Sanders fan obsessed with Brock. Boring. riversedge May 2016 #7
You must be protecting the paid staffer. How noble. floriduck May 2016 #10
Yet anothers Sanders fan mantra. riversedge May 2016 #13
Obvious trolls are, indeed, obvious. Electric Monk May 2016 #14
.. frylock May 2016 #42
Why do Hillary's supporters keep LWolf May 2016 #8
Why does Hillary keep pissing on the Western United States? jillan May 2016 #12
WHO CANCELED THOSE DAMN PRIMARIES?!! KingFlorez May 2016 #17
Nope, but her words will depress turnout nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #21
She agreed to a debate in CA and isn't following through. NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #22
How is that canceling the primary? KingFlorez May 2016 #26
He isn't. I live in the south. aikoaiko May 2016 #15
Me too. Aerows May 2016 #20
How is it a DNC problem? LiberalFighter May 2016 #32
Do you see Aerows May 2016 #33
You just say there is election fraud and accuse the DNC of it. LiberalFighter May 2016 #34
The fuck it doesn't. Aerows May 2016 #35
What you perceive to be the mission statement may not be called that. LiberalFighter May 2016 #43
Nah, Weaver and Divine said they didn't compete in most of the south during calls so yeah.. he's.. uponit7771 May 2016 #38
Sorry rivers edge. I blocked you before I got your reply. Hope it was finally intelligent. floriduck May 2016 #16
I live in the Deep South Aerows May 2016 #18
I do too and no he did not... Weaver and Divine said they didn't compete in most of the south on... uponit7771 May 2016 #39
Hillary Clinton won MA, IL, and OH. Eric J in MN May 2016 #19
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #25
No links, just your claim. cali May 2016 #23
The South matters very much and all of us know the South will go Republican. oldandhappy May 2016 #24
One must take care when speaking of others - edgineered May 2016 #27
The only time the South matters on DU is when it votes the correct way Fumesucker May 2016 #28
^^^^^this^^^^ nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #31
... and PoC too, they like to act like we have syndromes and shit uponit7771 May 2016 #44
They'll go back to hating the South just as soon as the GE rolls around. frylock May 2016 #45
+1 QC May 2016 #46
+100! nt nc4bo May 2016 #47
I am wondering why Hillary embraces the endorsements of NC Democrats who voted for the Bluenorthwest May 2016 #29
Why did the south piss on Bernie? Vinca May 2016 #30
Cause Weaver and Divine claimed on calls they didn't compete in most of the Southern States? tia uponit7771 May 2016 #50
I suspected it was because the southern church goers don't take kindly to Jewish people. Vinca May 2016 #51
Yeap, figured... not his fault even when they openly admit fault... That's not right uponit7771 May 2016 #52
Why should anyone "be at fault?" Vinca May 2016 #53
cause Sanders runs his ship, totally ignoring most of the southern states was a really stupid uponit7771 May 2016 #54
And the same can be said for Hillary and the states she lost. Vinca May 2016 #67
No one claimed she didn't compete in those states as Weaver and Divine did, so that's wrong uponit7771 May 2016 #68
So what, exactly, is the big f*ing deal? Vinca May 2016 #70
I'm concerned about resources being wasted and two people attacking Clinton consummately were uponit7771 May 2016 #72
IMO, Bernie continuing to stay in the race is doing Hillary a giant favor. Vinca May 2016 #73
Howard Dean On the Road May 2016 #41
Hillary's pissing on California but their votes doesn't matter. The southern states have voted Autumn May 2016 #48
So, Clinton's statement that California doesn't matter not going over well? jeff47 May 2016 #49
Member since: Tue May 3, 2016, 06:54 AM IdaBriggs May 2016 #55
Yeah, right, we know what you're implying. randome May 2016 #61
I agree that Brock trolls are pathetic. IdaBriggs May 2016 #63
You can write of two or three Southern states in the general election bluestateguy May 2016 #56
Why do you keep making shit up? nt Logical May 2016 #57
Why does the south keep pissing on voting rights, LGBT equality, reproductive liberties, collective Attorney in Texas May 2016 #58
Fair question bluestateguy May 2016 #59
Pissing on the south? RobertEarl May 2016 #60
Why do you keep posting the same old bullshit? hobbit709 May 2016 #62
WTF? passiveporcupine May 2016 #64
Why does Clinton piss on the western states? I know for a fact that they matter. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #65
Correct, southern states do not matter AgingAmerican May 2016 #66
The south? Pissing like this you mean? pinebox May 2016 #69
Can you describe for me exactly how he's doing this? cliffordu May 2016 #71

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
2. Why in the hell did Hillary setup a fucking private server to conduct
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:06 PM
May 2016

SOS and possibly Clinton Foundation business on?

Who would be THAT shortsighted, ignorant, arrogant and deceptive?

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
9. Or what? This is a discussion board. Ask a silly question
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:10 PM
May 2016

And get asked a not so silly question in return.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
8. Why do Hillary's supporters keep
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:09 PM
May 2016

attempting and failing to paint Sanders with false allegations, while at the same time they feel the need to point out that they've "won." If they've "won," why would they need to keep up the negative propaganda?

Okay, let's just get to the real question: why would I expect Clinton, her campaign, or her supporters to be logical, reasonable, or less than hateful?

jillan

(39,451 posts)
12. Why does Hillary keep pissing on the Western United States?
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:11 PM
May 2016

She wants to declare the primary over without letting these states have a say:

California, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, New Mexico.

Why is she trying to silence the voters in these states?

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
17. WHO CANCELED THOSE DAMN PRIMARIES?!!
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:15 PM
May 2016

You people keep screaming that somebody is trying to "silence" states that haven't voted yet, but none of their primaries have been canceled. Unless you can show some evidence that those primaries have been canceled, sit down.

And Clinton has never categorically dismissed any state like Sanders has. She doesn't go around whining about how states didn't vote for her like Sanders does.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
26. How is that canceling the primary?
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:23 PM
May 2016

It's a lie that Clinton is stopping people from voting and it's a lie that keeps getting repeated. Not agreeing to a debate isn't canceling the primary. People who haven't voted yet are still going to get to vote.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
20. Me too.
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:19 PM
May 2016

The only thing pissing me off currently is electoral fraud, and that is a DNC problem, not a Bernie problem.

I think some day, the Democratic party is going to take a good look back and realize that they have pissed off too many voters and stacked the deck too thick.

My party has pissed all over everything. I hope it was worth it to them.

LiberalFighter

(51,005 posts)
32. How is it a DNC problem?
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:50 PM
May 2016

The DNC does not create the laws for conducting elections. It would be nice if they had that power.

Even the Democratic Party of each state do not create the laws for their state. The laws are created by the state legislatures and they are not all the same in each state.

The only thing that is the same in each state except for a few exceptions is that the delegates are allocated proportionally based on the election results. Nothing mysterious about it. It is all defined in the Convention Rules that has been out there for quite a while. In fact, it has been pretty much the same since about 1984.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
33. Do you see
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:53 PM
May 2016

the evidence of election fraud that has occurred in the Democratic primary?

Because if you do not, you are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.

I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.

LiberalFighter

(51,005 posts)
34. You just say there is election fraud and accuse the DNC of it.
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:56 PM
May 2016

But you don't identify it. And again, the DNC does not control the election process.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
35. The fuck it doesn't.
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:59 PM
May 2016

It's right there in the mission statement.

I'd bother to link it for you, but I believe that you are absolutely capable of typing Google.

LiberalFighter

(51,005 posts)
43. What you perceive to be the mission statement may not be called that.
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:06 PM
May 2016

So I don't know what you think you are looking at.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
38. Nah, Weaver and Divine said they didn't compete in most of the south during calls so yeah.. he's..
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:03 PM
May 2016

... dismissing the south no doubt.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. I live in the Deep South
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:16 PM
May 2016

and Bernie Sanders has appealed to me as a candidate that we have long needed.

I guess your mileage may vary.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
39. I do too and no he did not... Weaver and Divine said they didn't compete in most of the south on...
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:05 PM
May 2016

... calls to the media.

This is a known known

Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #19)

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
24. The South matters very much and all of us know the South will go Republican.
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:21 PM
May 2016

He is asking for fair representation based on the popular vote. He is not asking southern super delegates to shift. Our clinton on the other hand did in deed say California does not matter so here I sit once again -- I do not matter.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
27. One must take care when speaking of others -
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:24 PM
May 2016

all too often it reveals more about the biases, prejudices, and attitude of the one making the comment than it does of the person of whom they speak. Make of this what you will, it is a general statement.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
28. The only time the South matters on DU is when it votes the correct way
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:28 PM
May 2016

Otherwise the South is the land of trailer parks and tornadoes which go together like chainsaws and naked flesh.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
29. I am wondering why Hillary embraces the endorsements of NC Democrats who voted for the
Sat May 21, 2016, 03:35 PM
May 2016

anti trans hate bill. NC already has no bars to discrimination against LGBT in employment or housing. Not one State in the South has such protections for LGBT. Why do they keep pissing on us? And why do Hillary people keep insisting that the only States which mater are the anti gay States? Oregon does not count, Washington does not count, California they don't want to bother with, Hawaii has too many Asians to be diverse, Alaska is too cold to count. But any State that passes anti gay laws, oh boy they are the Voice of the People according to Camp Clinton.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
50. Cause Weaver and Divine claimed on calls they didn't compete in most of the Southern States? tia
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

This time there's no doubt its his fault k?

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
51. I suspected it was because the southern church goers don't take kindly to Jewish people.
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:47 PM
May 2016

I remember one black pastor who was interviewed didn't try to contain his dislike of the Jews. But who knows? It's anybody's guess. Bernie certainly has proposals that would benefit people in the southern states where poverty is most prevalent.

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
53. Why should anyone "be at fault?"
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:39 PM
May 2016

I have never demanded Hillary explain why she's lost so many states. I assume it's her "fault," but what does it matter? Now . . . scurry along and post something about Bernie's taxes or the "riot" in Nevada.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
54. cause Sanders runs his ship, totally ignoring most of the southern states was a really stupid
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:27 PM
May 2016

... idea for someone who claims now they're going to fight for every vote

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
67. And the same can be said for Hillary and the states she lost.
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:17 AM
May 2016

I don't see the point in carping on these things. We should be focusing on Donald Trump and who will be able to beat him in November. Right now it's looking like Bernie. You must give up your Bernie hatred enough to see the big picture.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
68. No one claimed she didn't compete in those states as Weaver and Divine did, so that's wrong
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:55 AM
May 2016

... factually

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
70. So what, exactly, is the big f*ing deal?
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

Shouldn't you be more concerned about Donald Trump? Unless you failed math, it appears Hillary will be the nominee. I don't know why Hillary supporters continue to do as much as they can to stop Bernie people from wanting to vote for her. Without our votes, she does not win.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
72. I'm concerned about resources being wasted and two people attacking Clinton consummately were
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016

... as Sanders camp wants to be vindictive and support the attacking of Clinton

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
73. IMO, Bernie continuing to stay in the race is doing Hillary a giant favor.
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

Once he's gone, all we'll hear 24/7 is stuff about emails, the Clinton Foundation, Benghazi and lurid details of Bill's affairs. Hillary isn't wasting any money on Bernie at this point. She's already in general election mode. Fortunately, for her, the primary is still big news on the Democratic side so she's getting a delay in what is going to be the dirtiest campaign in our history.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
41. Howard Dean
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:06 PM
May 2016

wanted voters who had gun racks and confederate flags stickers on their pickups to vote Democratic.

I don't believe that the current philosophy within the party We'll find out how this equation plays out in purple states like NC and VA and how it affects the impending Democratic majority.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
48. Hillary's pissing on California but their votes doesn't matter. The southern states have voted
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

and they are irrelevant to where we are now. Their only use is for Hillary supporters to pull out the racist Bernie card.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
49. So, Clinton's statement that California doesn't matter not going over well?
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

Time to work up a "both sides do it!!!" as damage control.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
55. Member since: Tue May 3, 2016, 06:54 AM
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:35 PM
May 2016

Number of posts: 160
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Favorite forum: General Discussion: Primaries, 113 posts in the last 90 days (71% of total posts)
Favorite group: Hillary Clinton, 32 posts in the last 90 days (20% of total posts)
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randome

(34,845 posts)
61. Yeah, right, we know what you're implying.
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:47 PM
May 2016

Anyone who disagrees with you must be a paid troll, right? Pathetic.
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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
56. You can write of two or three Southern states in the general election
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:21 PM
May 2016

Writing off the whole south is a major red flag (pun, sort of intended).

Bernie, who proclaims himself the stronger GE candidate, has shown no indication that he will vigorously target any southern states at all.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
58. Why does the south keep pissing on voting rights, LGBT equality, reproductive liberties, collective
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:29 PM
May 2016

bargaining rights, etc.?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
60. Pissing on the south?
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:45 PM
May 2016

Well they need all the water they can get. It's what they use to wash away their sins, and sins they have. Still.

What's bullshit is your lame unfounded assertion that Bernie is stealing anything. Gawd, get a fucking grip.... Bernie is following the rules and that's all he's doing. Problem is they are making up new rules all the time in their failed lame ass attempt to get H nominated. Which is going to fail, and Bernie will be the victor! Get ready to vote for Bernie come Novemeber.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
65. Why does Clinton piss on the western states? I know for a fact that they matter.
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:13 AM
May 2016

Mississippi? Not so much, they'll vote for Trump regardless of who we nominate.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
69. The south? Pissing like this you mean?
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:01 AM
May 2016

Trump.....Hillary.......yup yup. Issues matter folks. Why is one so called "Democrat" aligning herself with this?


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