2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAll In: Bernie Sanders Says Debbie Wasserman Schultz Will Be Gone From DNC If He's President
"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) went all in on Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), the head of the Democratic National Committee, on Saturday, saying he supports a primary challenger in her re-election bid for her House seat and would remove her from the DNC if elected president.
Sanders has repeatedly accused the DNC, which is neutral in the Democratic primary, of favoring his rival, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
He told CNN's Jake Tapper he "clearly" favors the DNC head's opponent, law professor Tim Canova.
"His views are much closer to mine than Wasserman Schultz's," the senator said in an interview that will air Sunday on "State of the Union."
"With all due respect to the current chairperson, if elected president, she would not be reappointed to be chair of the DNC"
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/bernie-sanders-debbie-wasserman-schultz_us_5740c0cee4b045cc9a713056/amp
He's not backing down!
still_one
(92,303 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)still_one
(92,303 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)still_one
(92,303 posts)kcjohn1
(751 posts)I'm afraid she is being scapegoated for the establishment DNC. She is only the frontwomen.
The rout goes much deeper. Need to kick out the lot of them.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)If so, he just got it.
Retrograde
(10,142 posts)And the Democrats have already had their convention. The way it was explained to me by a couple of candidates for delegate to the national convention (2 Clinton, one Sanders) is that each Congressional district has a slate of those pledged to a particular candidate. Suppose a district gets 12 delegates, and in the primary candidate A gets 75% of the vote and B gets 25% of the vote. Then the top 9 people on A's list get selected along with the top 3 on Bs. If it's a 33-67 split, the top 4 A candidates go, and the top 8 B candidates. And so forth.
ETA: That's for the pledged delegates.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Thank you for the heads-up, Retrograde!
JudyM
(29,251 posts)If anyone does not see the extent of her machinations to install Clinton, they are not seeing facts.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)JudyM
(29,251 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)A lot of the shenanigans didn't become apparent to non political junkies until deep into the primary cycle.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)complete with all the blindly dismissive insults... Including here on DU as well as our "trusty" Maddow, etc.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Black and white thinking and rah-rah go team politics unfortunately are not unique to Republicans. I once thought they were....
-none
(1,884 posts)The Democrats have been infiltrated. Not all Democrats are.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)She is out after the GE. Who is President matters little.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Considering DWS is an anchor on the Democratic Party, dragging us down, it's unlikely we'll have a Democratic President with DWS in power.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Then she can get to work rounding up all those nasty medical marijuana patients, like she wants to.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I'm not up on where DWS would mostly end up in a Clinton Administration but it's almost a lock that she will get something. If Hillary loses then Tim will most likely beat her.
cali
(114,904 posts)I'm just hoping, long shot that it is, that Tim Canova beats corrupt l'il Payday Debbie.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)i'm sure she will be rewarded for her loyalty.
The mind boggles to imagine what DWS could achieve if she puts that level of competence to work at a different gig.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Sooo diplomatic, you know. LOL
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)You're in deep doodoo when I am president.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
DCBob
(24,689 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)And surely you don't doubt how corrupt she is.
DSW takes big $$$ from the payday lender loan sharks, an industry so toxic that 20 states either outlaw it or sharply restrict it. Google recently barred payday loan sharks from advertising. DSW works to prevent increased regulation on these fucks, both on the federal and state level. But it couldn't possibly have anything to do with the $$$. After all, she's a Clinton dem! And like Hillary, she couldn't possibly be influenced by money.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/warren-wasserman-schultz-clash-over-payday-lenders
Tim Canova only accepts small dollar donations.
DSW is strongly opposed to medical marijuana. She says it's a gateway drug and that legalizing medical marijuana will lead to fraud and abuse. She has no problem with ill medical marijuana users being sent to prison- for years.
Tim in his own words:
In Florida, I supported the 2014 medical marijuana referendum that garnered about 58 percent of the vote state-wide, falling just short of the required 60 percent mark. My opponent, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, is a drug warrior who opposed the medical marijuana referendum. Calling marijuana a gateway drug, she refuses to allow her constituents in South Florida, in consultation with their doctors, to decide for themselves whether to utilize this plant-based medicine to alleviate pain and other symptoms of various illnesses and the side effects of other medications
https://timcanova.com/issues
In 2008, DSW refused to endorse democratic challengers to three of the most right wing Florida republican congress critters, saying she didn't want to stab he repuke friends in the back. I mean what the fuckity fuck Fuck.
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) is getting brutally walloped in the liberal blogosphere for refusing to endorse the Democratic challengers to three potentially vulnerable GOP incumbents in Florida.
Liberal bloggers are irate that Wasserman Schultz, who co-chairs the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committees Red-to-Blue program, has declined to endorse the Democrats running to unseat Cuban American Reps. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother, Mario Diaz-Balart.
Wasserman Schultz says she doesnt want to stab GOP members of her own delegation in the back. But liberal bloggers say shes killing her own while aiding and abetting the enemy.
Just for the record, Im not in favor of knocking out all Republicans either so perhaps I have a bit of the Wasserman Schultz sin in my own file. I was for instance supportive of Maryland Eastern Shore anti-Iraq war Republican Wayne Gilchrest who lost his primary battle recently.
But the Diaz-Balart brothers and Ros-Lehtinen are not moderate in any sense of the word, are embracers of Bushs wars, and have been responsible for sustaining a counter-productive embargo of Cuba by the United States that 183 nations of the world voted against us on this past year in the United Nations.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is helping to defend the political turf of not the best in the Republican Party but the worst.
<snip>
http://washingtonnote.com/venting_about_d/
This is not the first time that she has put her parochial interests ahead of her party. Back in 2008, when she was running the DNC's "Red to Blue" project, she famously abstained from supporting three Democratic challengers to incumbent Republicans the Diaz-Balart brothers and the ever-insufferable Ileana Ros-Lehtinen friend to terrorists who blow up passenger jets because she was friends with all three of them.
A day later, Wasserman Schultz and Ros-Lehtinen lavished compliments on each other at a Washington luncheon with Miami-Dade commissioners. "I can't say enough good things about Ileana Ros-Lehtinen; she has been my friend since I was first elected to office," Wasserman Schultz said, noting she relied on Ros-Lehtinen's advice to help balance the demands of elected office and motherhood.
<snip>
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a37542/dnc-chairperson/
Is there more? You betcha, but the above gives you a rough outline
DCBob
(24,689 posts)If that is all true and she has no legitimate explanation then for sure those are issues to consider.
cali
(114,904 posts)And what makes you think she's safe if Hillary is elected, let alone if Trump is? Who knows if she'll even win her primary. This is a weird election year. Aside from the fact that she's corrupt and a for shit democrat, she's been a supporter spectacular failure as chair of the DNC.
I find it interesting that you guys who are so quick to scoff at charges of corruption in the party, are often unaware of why those charges are leveled.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Its all very well documented. You'll continue ignoring and excusing it.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)because President Obama supports her, you'll ignore the facts.
Disturbing.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)He knows more about this than you do or the authors of those articles.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)How's your Saturday going?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)The Democratic Party is the party for the People and we will throw your corporatist friends out on their ears. Your side may have the big money power, but we have the People and in the USofA we will fight you for our freedoms and liberties.
Mammon: The greedy pursuit of wealth. Does that remind you of a particular candidate? One that has amassed $150,000,000 in the last 15 years. But that's what some love about her, Wealth means success, right?
riversedge
(70,264 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,961 posts)...classy. However, I do feel she should have left the position before Iowa. She wasn't all that when she was favoring Obama over Hillary. She's a better congressperson, though, and Bernie seems bitter. He had a great run and good showing. If people voted primaries more together, he would have fared poorly - so this system helped him.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,961 posts)...or, am just recalling her appearances after Obama won.
cali
(114,904 posts)And DSW wasn't chair in 2008 and was a huge hill supporter and a surrogate for her. You can't rewrite history like that and experience c.f. not to be called on it.
Mike Nelson
(9,961 posts)...I was mistaken. I wouldn't call that rewriting history - which seems intentional. Besides, I would be called on the error - especially here!
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)WE, the people, are bitter about the manipulation of our livelihoods by corporate lobbyists and their henchmen in Congress ...
We are bitter that many establishment Democrats help foster those manipulations through cowardice or graft ...
We are bitter because NOBODY in congress seems to have the people's backs, except one ...
Bernie fuckin Sanders ....
Bernie isn't bitter about the race ... He's bitter because everything that is WRONG in America is the very same stuff he had railed against, over and over again, throughout the decades ...
He's bitter right along side of us, and we support him for that ...
Tarc
(10,476 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)Sanders will be lucky if he's even allowed in the convention center at all at this rate.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Unfortunately the only one who is delusional (you went there) is you. The idea that Bernie wouldn't be allowed into the convention is textbook.
cali
(114,904 posts)after she could no longer win in 2008.
I'm glad he answered honestly. DWS represents everything that's wrong with the democratic party. And she's corrupt as hell.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Gomez163
(2,039 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)vintx
(1,748 posts)900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats
And coming up, if her machinations to help hillary win are effective, most likely a GE as well.
ISUGRADIA
(2,571 posts)She wasn't head of the DNC until 2011.
vintx
(1,748 posts)SO FAR
US House 2011
193 Dems
US House 2015
188
-5
US Senate 2011
51 Dems
US Senate 2015
44 Dems
-7
vintx
(1,748 posts)but then I came across this shit and I don't even care. If you want to pick nits defending this woman, knock yourself out. Says more about you than you probably realize.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/allison-tant-elected-chairwoman-of-florida-democratic-party/1272419
http://thepoliticalhurricane.com/2012/12/19/breaking-news-allison-tant-was-lobbyist-for-firm-that-purged-african-americans-from-voter-rolls-in-2000/
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)feel comfortable with. Don't get too comfortable, because we have ourselves a revolution. And Clinton supporters are not on the side of the People. They love the wealthy. Wonder if they think that the wealthy will trickle some down on them? What do you think?
The revolution might get messy because your side has all the power but we have the People and we are sick of the authoritarian rule that you seem to relish.
The hubris and arrogance will be the downfall of the Rich and Wealthy that you revere so fondly.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)They are in for a rude awakening over the next couple of months. I can't wait to see how they cope with it.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Their hubris is incredible. They think that if they support the Wealthy 1% that they will be liked by the Wealthy 1%. I have news for them, "THE OLIGARCHY DOESN'T LOVE YOU." They give up their souls, their pride, their principles for the perceived comfort of being on the side of the wealthy. Mammon: The greedy pursuit of wealthy and those that worship such.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Corporate666
(587 posts)Memo to Bernie - the POTUS doesn't appoint the DNC chain.
So he can put that right up there besides all his other false promises as "things Bernie just cannot do and he knows he cannot do, but he will still promise them anyway because he doesn't care about delivering, only getting elected".
Bernie - the great pretender.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)But, just like Bernie, I will ever be president, so it's kind of a moot point...
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)The only difference between the two is that Chafee has already accepted reality.
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TexasBushwhacker
(20,208 posts)better in the mid terms. We've lost a lot of ground under her rule.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)primnickel
(38 posts)Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)Hillary's Democratic party will be the corporate preferred War and Austerity party as the GOP implodes.
Progressives will continue to be despised outsiders until the inevitable fracturing of the Democratic Party.
Still, it will be fun watching the Comcast Convention in Philly.
One Black Sheep
(458 posts)of the firings at the top level of the DNC. I would love for Bernie to bring in his people and replace the whole lot of 'em. The stink of corruption would then be much improved.
NanceGreggs
(27,816 posts)... is a phrase that Bernie should have stopped using months ago.
At this point in the proceedings, it sounds pretty much like "if crowned the Queen of England ..."
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)... Are not gonna win over super D's.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)and integrity, instead of all that bull sh*t politi-speak, triangulation nonsense.
He says it and that is that.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)It's a long time since we've seen anyone stand up to corrupt creeps like her.
I support him in that 200%!
And go Tim Canova! Glad to help him kick out DWS.
shanti
(21,675 posts)he's a fighter, and we are in a fight for our lives.