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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:41 PM May 2016

All In: Bernie Sanders Says Debbie Wasserman Schultz Will Be Gone From DNC If He's President

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) went all in on Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), the head of the Democratic National Committee, on Saturday, saying he supports a primary challenger in her re-election bid for her House seat and would remove her from the DNC if elected president.

Sanders has repeatedly accused the DNC, which is neutral in the Democratic primary, of favoring his rival, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

He told CNN's Jake Tapper he "clearly" favors the DNC head's opponent, law professor Tim Canova.

"His views are much closer to mine than Wasserman Schultz's," the senator said in an interview that will air Sunday on "State of the Union."

"With all due respect to the current chairperson, if elected president, she would not be reappointed to be chair of the DNC"


http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/bernie-sanders-debbie-wasserman-schultz_us_5740c0cee4b045cc9a713056/amp

He's not backing down!
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All In: Bernie Sanders Says Debbie Wasserman Schultz Will Be Gone From DNC If He's President (Original Post) NWCorona May 2016 OP
LOL still_one May 2016 #1
This is awesome. I'd hate to be on the side of DWS, Hillary, Roberta... reformist2 May 2016 #43
shaking in one's boots still_one May 2016 #48
I don't think they're afraid. They just don't see the avalanche that is headed their way. reformist2 May 2016 #49
you may not realize it, but I don't think we agree, and I was being sarcastic. still_one May 2016 #52
I hope they don't stop with her kcjohn1 May 2016 #2
Is California winner-take-all? Octafish May 2016 #3
No, it's proportional Retrograde May 2016 #56
Rats! Wishful thinking out loud on my part. Octafish May 2016 #76
He has exercised enormous restraint in holding back this long. JudyM May 2016 #4
IMHO some people are so use to this kind of politics that they can't see the problem with it. NWCorona May 2016 #16
I always thought Dems were tuned into injustices, including in our electoral system. JudyM May 2016 #19
Most dems are definitely tuned into it. That's my hope at least. NWCorona May 2016 #23
But I don't see any different reaction now, do you? Seems it's all just "whatever gets her in" JudyM May 2016 #84
Me too - this election sure has proven me wrong though. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #69
You weren't wrong in the first place. -none May 2016 #81
She will be gone from the DNC if Clinton is President. NCTraveler May 2016 #5
Because DWS would be rewarded with a cabinet position for her failures from Hillary. w4rma May 2016 #8
AG Maybe? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #17
That I can agree with. NWCorona May 2016 #10
Yep. And who knows, maybe she'll appoint Howard Dean. He was quite effective cali May 2016 #11
So what job does Hillary have her in mind for? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #15
Hillary is so tone-deaf, she probably will brag that DWS should be the next SOS. reformist2 May 2016 #46
put her in charge of outreach to the young folks! Warren DeMontague May 2016 #50
You all better watch out Cary May 2016 #6
/thread...nt SidDithers May 2016 #63
Well she should be feel quite confident she remains. DCBob May 2016 #7
So do you support corrupt, republican loving Payday Debbie? cali May 2016 #18
I am not familiar with all that but my point is she is safe since Bernie not going to win. DCBob May 2016 #60
Lol.that's it. Just brush off corruption in the dem party. cali May 2016 #67
I would prefer to investigate these claims before I believe them. DCBob May 2016 #71
Investigate away (not that you really will) cali May 2016 #72
I did a bit of investigating and this is all I need to know.. DCBob May 2016 #77
Try thinking for yourself. I posted facts. You post that cali May 2016 #79
I trust his judgement. DCBob May 2016 #82
DWS is pretty safe as it sits right now that's true but this has been a wild season. NWCorona May 2016 #36
We need to rid our Party of the corporatists that have bought their way in. rhett o rick May 2016 #39
No worry, Bernie will not be the President. riversedge May 2016 #9
Still definitely a possibility but up a steep Hill for sure. NWCorona May 2016 #13
I thought her sesponse was... Mike Nelson May 2016 #12
Obama over Hillary? She was co-chair of Hillary's campaign in 2008, IIRC. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #20
I must have her confused with someone else. Mike Nelson May 2016 #24
Sure, if you find baldly lying classy cali May 2016 #26
As I stated... Mike Nelson May 2016 #37
He should never have run Gomez163 May 2016 #29
You also confused about just who is bitter ... Trajan May 2016 #44
Extreme delusion going on right here Tarc May 2016 #14
I don't see it as delusion at all. NWCorona May 2016 #21
Says the one sharing the delusion... Tarc May 2016 #25
I feel the Bern definitely but I'm very cognizant of Bernie’s chances and so is he. NWCorona May 2016 #28
From who? You know that Hillary spoke of what she'd do when she was president cali May 2016 #33
she is a monster yourpaljoey May 2016 #22
He is so delusional Gomez163 May 2016 #27
That must be the new narrative. NWCorona May 2016 #31
Sanders is vying for the "Sane Democrat" vote here. Kip Humphrey May 2016 #30
With chairgate imploding. Hopefully he can leverage that going into California. NWCorona May 2016 #32
And not one apology in sight. Dishonest and shameless, that's what they are. reformist2 May 2016 #47
GOOD. That woman has been A DISASTER FROM DAY ONE. vintx May 2016 #34
At least get your numbers correct ISUGRADIA May 2016 #73
I didn't name a year. How about you list how many losses we've had with her at the helm. vintx May 2016 #74
Ok ISUGRADIA May 2016 #75
I was going to look for the governors and state legislative losses, which you to include vintx May 2016 #83
He won't be president. He already lost. The DNC couldn't care or less what the curmudgeon thinks. Trust Buster May 2016 #35
He won. He has exposed the lying and cheating of the corrupt culture that some seem to rhett o rick May 2016 #42
Exactly. The Hillary Camp thinks they've won, and they just assume everyone will fall in line. reformist2 May 2016 #55
What I've noticed about authoritarians is that they think we all will acquiesce like they do. rhett o rick May 2016 #57
That's a good point. They've all given up, sold out. Surely we will too? reformist2 May 2016 #59
This Just In-Bernie will never be President redstateblues May 2016 #38
This just in, Hillary will fail once more. It's getting to be a habit. rhett o rick May 2016 #45
Yet another Bernie delusion of doing things he can't do Corporate666 May 2016 #40
I'll probably choose someone else too if I'm every elected president. Nonhlanhla May 2016 #41
As if he would ever get to make the choice KingFlorez May 2016 #51
Why not ask Lincoln Chafee his opinion??? Bleacher Creature May 2016 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #54
If DWS had done a better job the Dems might have done TexasBushwhacker May 2016 #58
Something that doesn't get said often enough. NWCorona May 2016 #64
Bernie is the Man, get rid of her please! primnickel May 2016 #61
Sadly the DNC has won again. Now they will go ever rightward for Republican votes and donors Teamster Jeff May 2016 #62
She should be fired for corruption and incompetence, and should only be the start One Black Sheep May 2016 #65
"If elected president" ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #66
Now he's just pandering for our votes. winter is coming May 2016 #68
Those kinds of threats.... Adrahil May 2016 #70
It is so REFRESHING to have a politician asked a question and then answer it with honesty pdsimdars May 2016 #78
Love it! Thank you, Bernie! Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #80
i would expect nothing less from bernie shanti May 2016 #85

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
2. I hope they don't stop with her
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

I'm afraid she is being scapegoated for the establishment DNC. She is only the frontwomen.

The rout goes much deeper. Need to kick out the lot of them.

Retrograde

(10,142 posts)
56. No, it's proportional
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:25 PM
May 2016

And the Democrats have already had their convention. The way it was explained to me by a couple of candidates for delegate to the national convention (2 Clinton, one Sanders) is that each Congressional district has a slate of those pledged to a particular candidate. Suppose a district gets 12 delegates, and in the primary candidate A gets 75% of the vote and B gets 25% of the vote. Then the top 9 people on A's list get selected along with the top 3 on Bs. If it's a 33-67 split, the top 4 A candidates go, and the top 8 B candidates. And so forth.

ETA: That's for the pledged delegates.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
4. He has exercised enormous restraint in holding back this long.
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:46 PM
May 2016

If anyone does not see the extent of her machinations to install Clinton, they are not seeing facts.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
23. Most dems are definitely tuned into it. That's my hope at least.
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:01 PM
May 2016

A lot of the shenanigans didn't become apparent to non political junkies until deep into the primary cycle.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
84. But I don't see any different reaction now, do you? Seems it's all just "whatever gets her in"
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:51 PM
May 2016

complete with all the blindly dismissive insults... Including here on DU as well as our "trusty" Maddow, etc.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
69. Me too - this election sure has proven me wrong though.
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:50 PM
May 2016

Black and white thinking and rah-rah go team politics unfortunately are not unique to Republicans. I once thought they were....

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. She will be gone from the DNC if Clinton is President.
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:47 PM
May 2016

She is out after the GE. Who is President matters little.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
8. Because DWS would be rewarded with a cabinet position for her failures from Hillary.
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:49 PM
May 2016

Considering DWS is an anchor on the Democratic Party, dragging us down, it's unlikely we'll have a Democratic President with DWS in power.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
17. AG Maybe?
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:55 PM
May 2016

Then she can get to work rounding up all those nasty medical marijuana patients, like she wants to.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
10. That I can agree with.
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:51 PM
May 2016

I'm not up on where DWS would mostly end up in a Clinton Administration but it's almost a lock that she will get something. If Hillary loses then Tim will most likely beat her.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. Yep. And who knows, maybe she'll appoint Howard Dean. He was quite effective
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:52 PM
May 2016

I'm just hoping, long shot that it is, that Tim Canova beats corrupt l'il Payday Debbie.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
15. So what job does Hillary have her in mind for?
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:54 PM
May 2016

i'm sure she will be rewarded for her loyalty.

The mind boggles to imagine what DWS could achieve if she puts that level of competence to work at a different gig.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
46. Hillary is so tone-deaf, she probably will brag that DWS should be the next SOS.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:06 PM
May 2016

Sooo diplomatic, you know. LOL
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
18. So do you support corrupt, republican loving Payday Debbie?
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:55 PM
May 2016

And surely you don't doubt how corrupt she is.

DSW takes big $$$ from the payday lender loan sharks, an industry so toxic that 20 states either outlaw it or sharply restrict it. Google recently barred payday loan sharks from advertising. DSW works to prevent increased regulation on these fucks, both on the federal and state level. But it couldn't possibly have anything to do with the $$$. After all, she's a Clinton dem! And like Hillary, she couldn't possibly be influenced by money.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/warren-wasserman-schultz-clash-over-payday-lenders

Tim Canova only accepts small dollar donations.

DSW is strongly opposed to medical marijuana. She says it's a gateway drug and that legalizing medical marijuana will lead to fraud and abuse. She has no problem with ill medical marijuana users being sent to prison- for years.

Tim in his own words:

In Florida, I supported the 2014 medical marijuana referendum that garnered about 58 percent of the vote state-wide, falling just short of the required 60 percent mark. My opponent, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, is a drug warrior who opposed the medical marijuana referendum. Calling marijuana a “gateway” drug, she refuses to allow her constituents in South Florida, in consultation with their doctors, to decide for themselves whether to utilize this plant-based medicine to alleviate pain and other symptoms of various illnesses and the side effects of other medications
https://timcanova.com/issues

In 2008, DSW refused to endorse democratic challengers to three of the most right wing Florida republican congress critters, saying she didn't want to stab he repuke friends in the back. I mean what the fuckity fuck Fuck.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) is getting brutally walloped in the liberal blogosphere for refusing to endorse the Democratic challengers to three potentially vulnerable GOP incumbents in Florida.

Liberal bloggers are irate that Wasserman Schultz, who co-chairs the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s Red-to-Blue program, has declined to endorse the Democrats running to unseat Cuban American Reps. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother, Mario Diaz-Balart.

Wasserman Schultz says she doesn’t want to stab GOP members of her own delegation in the back. But liberal bloggers say she’s killing her own while aiding and abetting the enemy.

Just for the record, I’m not in favor of knocking out all Republicans either — so perhaps I have a bit of the Wasserman Schultz sin in my own file. I was for instance supportive of Maryland Eastern Shore anti-Iraq war Republican Wayne Gilchrest who lost his primary battle recently.

But the Diaz-Balart brothers and Ros-Lehtinen are not moderate in any sense of the word, are embracers of Bush’s wars, and have been responsible for sustaining a counter-productive embargo of Cuba by the United States that 183 nations of the world voted against us on this past year in the United Nations.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz is helping to defend the political turf of not the best in the Republican Party — but the worst.

<snip>
http://washingtonnote.com/venting_about_d/


This is not the first time that she has put her parochial interests ahead of her party. Back in 2008, when she was running the DNC's "Red to Blue" project, she famously abstained from supporting three Democratic challengers to incumbent Republicans – the Diaz-Balart brothers and the ever-insufferable Ileana Ros-Lehtinen –friend to terrorists who blow up passenger jets – because she was friends with all three of them.

A day later, Wasserman Schultz and Ros-Lehtinen lavished compliments on each other at a Washington luncheon with Miami-Dade commissioners. "I can't say enough good things about Ileana Ros-Lehtinen; she has been my friend since I was first elected to office," Wasserman Schultz said, noting she relied on Ros-Lehtinen's advice to help balance the demands of elected office and motherhood.

<snip>

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a37542/dnc-chairperson/

Is there more? You betcha, but the above gives you a rough outline

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
60. I am not familiar with all that but my point is she is safe since Bernie not going to win.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:44 PM
May 2016

If that is all true and she has no legitimate explanation then for sure those are issues to consider.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
67. Lol.that's it. Just brush off corruption in the dem party.
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:43 PM
May 2016

And what makes you think she's safe if Hillary is elected, let alone if Trump is? Who knows if she'll even win her primary. This is a weird election year. Aside from the fact that she's corrupt and a for shit democrat, she's been a supporter spectacular failure as chair of the DNC.

I find it interesting that you guys who are so quick to scoff at charges of corruption in the party, are often unaware of why those charges are leveled.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
72. Investigate away (not that you really will)
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:32 PM
May 2016

Its all very well documented. You'll continue ignoring and excusing it.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
79. Try thinking for yourself. I posted facts. You post that
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:27 AM
May 2016

because President Obama supports her, you'll ignore the facts.

Disturbing.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
82. I trust his judgement.
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:28 AM
May 2016

He knows more about this than you do or the authors of those articles.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
36. DWS is pretty safe as it sits right now that's true but this has been a wild season.
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:17 PM
May 2016

How's your Saturday going?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
39. We need to rid our Party of the corporatists that have bought their way in.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:00 PM
May 2016

The Democratic Party is the party for the People and we will throw your corporatist friends out on their ears. Your side may have the big money power, but we have the People and in the USofA we will fight you for our freedoms and liberties.

Mammon: The greedy pursuit of wealth. Does that remind you of a particular candidate? One that has amassed $150,000,000 in the last 15 years. But that's what some love about her, Wealth means success, right?

Mike Nelson

(9,961 posts)
12. I thought her sesponse was...
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:52 PM
May 2016

...classy. However, I do feel she should have left the position before Iowa. She wasn't all that when she was favoring Obama over Hillary. She's a better congressperson, though, and Bernie seems bitter. He had a great run and good showing. If people voted primaries more together, he would have fared poorly - so this system helped him.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
26. Sure, if you find baldly lying classy
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:08 PM
May 2016

And DSW wasn't chair in 2008 and was a huge hill supporter and a surrogate for her. You can't rewrite history like that and experience c.f. not to be called on it.

Mike Nelson

(9,961 posts)
37. As I stated...
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:17 PM
May 2016

...I was mistaken. I wouldn't call that rewriting history - which seems intentional. Besides, I would be called on the error - especially here!

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
44. You also confused about just who is bitter ...
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:05 PM
May 2016

WE, the people, are bitter about the manipulation of our livelihoods by corporate lobbyists and their henchmen in Congress ...

We are bitter that many establishment Democrats help foster those manipulations through cowardice or graft ...

We are bitter because NOBODY in congress seems to have the people's backs, except one ...

Bernie fuckin Sanders ....

Bernie isn't bitter about the race ... He's bitter because everything that is WRONG in America is the very same stuff he had railed against, over and over again, throughout the decades ...

He's bitter right along side of us, and we support him for that ...

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
25. Says the one sharing the delusion...
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:06 PM
May 2016

Sanders will be lucky if he's even allowed in the convention center at all at this rate.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
28. I feel the Bern definitely but I'm very cognizant of Bernie’s chances and so is he.
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:10 PM
May 2016

Unfortunately the only one who is delusional (you went there) is you. The idea that Bernie wouldn't be allowed into the convention is textbook.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
33. From who? You know that Hillary spoke of what she'd do when she was president
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:12 PM
May 2016

after she could no longer win in 2008.

I'm glad he answered honestly. DWS represents everything that's wrong with the democratic party. And she's corrupt as hell.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
34. GOOD. That woman has been A DISASTER FROM DAY ONE.
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:14 PM
May 2016

900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats

And coming up, if her machinations to help hillary win are effective, most likely a GE as well.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
74. I didn't name a year. How about you list how many losses we've had with her at the helm.
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:22 AM
May 2016

SO FAR

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
42. He won. He has exposed the lying and cheating of the corrupt culture that some seem to
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:04 PM
May 2016

feel comfortable with. Don't get too comfortable, because we have ourselves a revolution. And Clinton supporters are not on the side of the People. They love the wealthy. Wonder if they think that the wealthy will trickle some down on them? What do you think?

The revolution might get messy because your side has all the power but we have the People and we are sick of the authoritarian rule that you seem to relish.

The hubris and arrogance will be the downfall of the Rich and Wealthy that you revere so fondly.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
55. Exactly. The Hillary Camp thinks they've won, and they just assume everyone will fall in line.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:19 PM
May 2016

They are in for a rude awakening over the next couple of months. I can't wait to see how they cope with it.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
57. What I've noticed about authoritarians is that they think we all will acquiesce like they do.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:31 PM
May 2016

Their hubris is incredible. They think that if they support the Wealthy 1% that they will be liked by the Wealthy 1%. I have news for them, "THE OLIGARCHY DOESN'T LOVE YOU." They give up their souls, their pride, their principles for the perceived comfort of being on the side of the wealthy. Mammon: The greedy pursuit of wealthy and those that worship such.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
40. Yet another Bernie delusion of doing things he can't do
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:02 PM
May 2016

Memo to Bernie - the POTUS doesn't appoint the DNC chain.

So he can put that right up there besides all his other false promises as "things Bernie just cannot do and he knows he cannot do, but he will still promise them anyway because he doesn't care about delivering, only getting elected".

Bernie - the great pretender.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
41. I'll probably choose someone else too if I'm every elected president.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:04 PM
May 2016

But, just like Bernie, I will ever be president, so it's kind of a moot point...

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
53. Why not ask Lincoln Chafee his opinion???
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:16 PM
May 2016

The only difference between the two is that Chafee has already accepted reality.

Response to NWCorona (Original post)

TexasBushwhacker

(20,208 posts)
58. If DWS had done a better job the Dems might have done
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:40 PM
May 2016

better in the mid terms. We've lost a lot of ground under her rule.

Teamster Jeff

(1,598 posts)
62. Sadly the DNC has won again. Now they will go ever rightward for Republican votes and donors
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:45 PM
May 2016

Hillary's Democratic party will be the corporate preferred War and Austerity party as the GOP implodes.

Progressives will continue to be despised outsiders until the inevitable fracturing of the Democratic Party.

Still, it will be fun watching the Comcast Convention in Philly.

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
65. She should be fired for corruption and incompetence, and should only be the start
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:49 PM
May 2016

of the firings at the top level of the DNC. I would love for Bernie to bring in his people and replace the whole lot of 'em. The stink of corruption would then be much improved.

NanceGreggs

(27,816 posts)
66. "If elected president" ...
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:51 PM
May 2016

... is a phrase that Bernie should have stopped using months ago.

At this point in the proceedings, it sounds pretty much like "if crowned the Queen of England ..."

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
78. It is so REFRESHING to have a politician asked a question and then answer it with honesty
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:25 AM
May 2016

and integrity, instead of all that bull sh*t politi-speak, triangulation nonsense.
He says it and that is that.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
80. Love it! Thank you, Bernie!
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:31 AM
May 2016

It's a long time since we've seen anyone stand up to corrupt creeps like her.

I support him in that 200%!


And go Tim Canova! Glad to help him kick out DWS.

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