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IF Hillary gets indicted, what will her supporters say then? (Original Post) BigBearJohn May 2016 OP
It was part of a vast right wing conspiracy timmymoff May 2016 #1
Haha. Yes. Hillary the victim of the right wing. /nt trudyco May 2016 #4
We will just move on. What would the indictment be? innocent until proven guilty.. Jitter65 May 2016 #48
Yay Oligarchy and business as usual. timmymoff May 2016 #64
If Hillary does not get indicted, what will Sanders supporters say? KingFlorez May 2016 #2
Better luck next time BigBearJohn May 2016 #6
She won't last 8 years without an indictment or impeachment. HooptieWagon May 2016 #33
What if she shoots Abe Lincoln again? We'll be disappointed... very disappointed :rolleyes: uponit7771 May 2016 #3
Do you guys refresh Drudge and Fox everyday just waiting for manna from heaven? hrmjustin May 2016 #5
No. Just waiting for justice to be served BigBearJohn May 2016 #7
Sure. You posted a wingnut prntly.com article yesterday Dem2 May 2016 #57
If justice were served Buzz cook May 2016 #63
Be polite KingFlorez May 2016 #9
Fitzmass!!!! Nt pkdu May 2016 #8
It's Bernie's fault...thanks Obama! peace13 May 2016 #10
Bernie's fault. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #11
So true. TimPlo May 2016 #40
I can tell you what they won't say. That its Hillary's responsibility or her fault One Black Sheep May 2016 #12
Not guilty. rug May 2016 #13
Took em long enough BigBearJohn May 2016 #14
An actual trial would take longer. rug May 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #15
When she doesn't, will you apologize for your endless nasty bullshit or dream up some other nonsense alcibiades_mystery May 2016 #16
Oh yes. The Clintons are so honest. Take Bill for example. BigBearJohn May 2016 #24
For what exactly? Kentonio May 2016 #31
Maybe something similar to what Sanders supporters will say when he is convicted Thinkingabout May 2016 #17
How about embezzlement? okasha May 2016 #22
That Rome visit is still chapping your asses? Fawke Em May 2016 #45
Not ours. okasha May 2016 #46
"Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!" bahrbearian May 2016 #19
And if she doesn't will all the naysayers publicly apologize for all the beachbumbob May 2016 #20
Should Sanders apologize to his supporters if his wife is charged and drop out? Hoyt May 2016 #21
Jane Sanders isn't running for office. senz May 2016 #41
Well Bill Clinton was already TimPlo May 2016 #42
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. BigBearJohn May 2016 #23
If Sanders asks the DNC to help retire his debt from the millions he'll owe due to FEC violations... TwilightZone May 2016 #25
You're delusional onecaliberal May 2016 #30
They will have two responses -- IdaBriggs May 2016 #26
and the results are in! yuiyoshida May 2016 #49
I have upset a small stalker brigade. IdaBriggs May 2016 #50
Hugs...Ida yuiyoshida May 2016 #52
There are always some of them. . pdsimdars May 2016 #66
Blame it on RW dirty tricks TheFarseer May 2016 #27
why doesn't hair grow on footballs? Lil Missy May 2016 #28
It's Bernie's fault! Depaysement May 2016 #29
They've already previewed: this is what we have courts and trials for. morningfog May 2016 #32
They will shout "BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!" (nt) jeff47 May 2016 #34
They will never accept that she brought it on herself. AtomicKitten May 2016 #35
The question becomes is she still going to run if the FBI finds she violated her security clearance leveymg May 2016 #36
A smart guy I listen to said that if they don't recommend indictment then pdsimdars May 2016 #67
I completely agree. However, I've seen reference to comments that suggest that the leveymg May 2016 #70
It that happenned, she won't win the nomination or if she had won, she will no longer be the nominee andym May 2016 #37
They'll say "Oh it's rightwingers. She never does anything wrong." senz May 2016 #38
I'm not going to worry until Will Pitt predicts it (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #39
I'm beginning to wonder if the peeps that post that screed are Donald Dump or his kids. fleabiscuit May 2016 #43
Remind you about this libertarian wingnut link that you posted recently and refused to delete Dem2 May 2016 #44
Still less offensive than the Stormfront links your side has posted. eom Fawke Em May 2016 #47
If there is time to get somebody else on the ballot creeksneakers2 May 2016 #51
IF Bernie gets clobbered by ads saying he's a Socialist, what will his supporters say then? brooklynite May 2016 #53
They already call him that on the talk shows every time. Ash_F May 2016 #55
Talk show audiences are already decided... brooklynite May 2016 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author tomsmom22 May 2016 #54
They'll blame Bernie demwing May 2016 #56
Keep praying to the indictment fairy workinclasszero May 2016 #59
If Bernie gets indicted, what will his supporters say then? StevieM May 2016 #60
+1 oasis May 2016 #61
One word: Biden!! Hydra May 2016 #62
Why didn't somebody tell us it was this bad? Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #65
Ha! Good one. Thanks pdsimdars May 2016 #69
I think we get to call it a conspiracy without getting tinfoiled 2banon May 2016 #68
 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
48. We will just move on. What would the indictment be? innocent until proven guilty..
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:43 PM
May 2016

We will just move on to see what the end will be. If she is on the ballot we will vote for her.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
64. Yay Oligarchy and business as usual.
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:26 AM
May 2016

The Trump trap set by the Clinton's is working well for Her Corporate Majesty.

Buzz cook

(2,472 posts)
63. If justice were served
Mon May 23, 2016, 03:38 AM
May 2016

Obama would appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the run up to the Iraq war. He would appoint another one to investigate each and every financial institution that helped bring down the economy.

Unfortunately a bunch of newbies forced an under qualified RINO on the rest of us with the help of the MSM. Now the same idiots that foisted Obama on us want to give us a septuagenarian looser on us.

A septuagenarian who hasn't said boo about investigating Bush.


And what's the big hope? That another bull shit investigation hits gold where none other has done more than impeach a blow job and add to human misery.

Sanders supporters don't give a shit about justice. They just want their woobie to win by any means.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
40. So true.
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:18 PM
May 2016

Is in't odd that Bill Clinton for years was able to break laws and got away with it. But as soon as a women in power does it the FBI goes after her...

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
12. I can tell you what they won't say. That its Hillary's responsibility or her fault
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:35 PM
May 2016

Hillary apparently never bears any responsibility for her own actions in Hillary World. Its always someone elses fault.

Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
16. When she doesn't, will you apologize for your endless nasty bullshit or dream up some other nonsense
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:40 PM
May 2016


I'm really serious. What's the deadline for indictment, and will you be honest enough to admit that you were wrong, or will you be a fucking coward? I really want to know.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
31. For what exactly?
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:00 PM
May 2016

We've seen plenty of evidence that shows she broke rules that ordinary people have been charged with and lost careers over. Either she gets the same treatment as they did, or else it's just more confirmation that there's a special justice system for the super rich and well connected.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
22. How about embezzlement?
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:53 PM
May 2016

He has to repay his campaign for the cost of his jaunt to Rome out of his own pocket. He can't use further campaign funds or gifts from his supporters to do it.

If his means really are as modest as his fans claim, #Berniesopoor really will be in the deep end of the sewage tank.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
20. And if she doesn't will all the naysayers publicly apologize for all the
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:49 PM
May 2016

slander? Most likely not as that requires class...

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
42. Well Bill Clinton was already
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:20 PM
May 2016

Impeached for a crime and Hillary is still running so that not same thing.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
25. If Sanders asks the DNC to help retire his debt from the millions he'll owe due to FEC violations...
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:56 PM
May 2016

what will his supporters say then?

That's much more likely than a Clinton indictment, by the way. There are reports that negotiations are already underway.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
26. They will have two responses --
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:56 PM
May 2016

The first will be "vast right wing conspiracy" (tm) followed by "innocent until proven guilty in court". There is also a chance of some face saving health problem negotiated to avoid prison.

yuiyoshida

(41,832 posts)
49. and the results are in!
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:50 PM
May 2016

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pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
66. There are always some of them. .
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:48 AM
May 2016

Hopefully the jury system will get refined and the looney jurors will be ousted.
Maybe they should also have a system like the police do that if they get too many calls from some individual, they don't take them as seriously. Maybe if someone is found alerting a lot, they should start ignoring their alerts.
Just a suggestion.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
36. The question becomes is she still going to run if the FBI finds she violated her security clearance
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:05 PM
May 2016

but passes on recommending indictment, instead listing her many violations but leaves it to the DOJ to decide whether to convene a Grand Jury. That's the most likely outcome. How does the Party react to that?

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
67. A smart guy I listen to said that if they don't recommend indictment then
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:53 AM
May 2016

they will need to explain how it is that it is now legal to have almost 2200 classified messaged, 22 of which are at the top level of classification, on your private, unsecure, non-government server.
There are MANY such questions, but you get the idea.
How can they possibly indict anyone else for having classified information outside the government control where it is supposed to be?
Every person in the intelligence field will be upset because if they would have done anything near what Hillary did, they would probably be in prison.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
70. I completely agree. However, I've seen reference to comments that suggest that the
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

Comey report will itemize the acts that might be considered violations without making an explicit recommendation, one way or the other, about indictment. That will probably be a compromise measure that will satisfy nobody and everyone.

The FBI isn't required to issue a recommendation about indictment, but it is traditional in national security cases. However, it is the duty of the AG to make that decision, so I would understand if the Bureau simply reports without recommendation. If this is the outcome, one would almost certainly expect that behind the scenes there has been plea negotiations with HRC's lawyers and succession planning has been put in place.

Without a solid agreement and succession planning this would result in the worst sort of chaos, uncertainty, and acrimonious division to the advantage of the GOP. Nobody in the Party leadership in their right mind wants that.

andym

(5,444 posts)
37. It that happenned, she won't win the nomination or if she had won, she will no longer be the nominee
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:15 PM
May 2016

so it won't matter. If she is elected, she will have to resign. In the latter two cases, it will really matter who the VP is. In all of these cases it won't matter what her supporters think.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
38. They'll say "Oh it's rightwingers. She never does anything wrong."
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:17 PM
May 2016

You know it's true. Just like Trump said about his supporters, same mentality.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
43. I'm beginning to wonder if the peeps that post that screed are Donald Dump or his kids.
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:24 PM
May 2016

None of them are known to live in reality.

creeksneakers2

(7,473 posts)
51. If there is time to get somebody else on the ballot
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:10 PM
May 2016

I'll say she should withdraw. I'll also partially admit I was wrong. I never said she definitely won't be, just that she probably won't be.

If we are stuck with her on the ballot I'll follow to see if the case is really a good one. If it isn't I'll defend her. If it is, I'll just pray Trump doesn't get us all killed.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
55. They already call him that on the talk shows every time.
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:34 PM
May 2016

How are 30 second ads going to make a difference?

brooklynite

(94,602 posts)
58. Talk show audiences are already decided...
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:37 PM
May 2016

The General Election audience is much larger, and not as politically engaged early on.

Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
60. If Bernie gets indicted, what will his supporters say then?
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:43 PM
May 2016

The two scenarios are equally likely to happen.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
62. One word: Biden!!
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:54 AM
May 2016

I'm expecting this, all the backwork is showing up for it.

I'm sure Obama would much prefer him in the Oval office as well.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
68. I think we get to call it a conspiracy without getting tinfoiled
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:57 AM
May 2016

I'm wondering if Comey waits until Aug, Sept, or Oct, do we get to call it conspiracy then?

Guess HRC supporters will wish they had supported Bernie, but golly gosh, it will be too late then...or maybe they'd rather have Trump over Bernie?

I sometimes get that impression



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