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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:36 PM May 2016

Bernie staying in the race adds one very important aspect that Hillary (& msm) supporters ignore.


We have 2 Democrats bashing Trump every single day.

What does Bernie say in every rally for those that you who do not listen--- (paraphrasing)
Trump will never be elected President. No one is going to elect a man to be President that is a racist, a homophobe, a xenophobe, that makes fun of people with disabilities or our veterans.
And a reminder, says Bernie, that Donald Trump helped create the Birther movement to try and deligitimize our first African American President.
Love trumps Hate and that is why Trump will never be elected. He goes on for about 5 minutes ranting against Trump, and the crowd loves it.

This is nothing new with Bernie. He has been going after Trump since day one.

All the people at Bernie's rallies have heard his rant. Along with most of his supporters.
Hillary is attacking him as well - she is even beginning to run ads against Trump.

Between Bernie and Hillary it's 2:1 defining Donald Trump from the Democratic side.

And that is a good thing.
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Bernie staying in the race adds one very important aspect that Hillary (& msm) supporters ignore. (Original Post) jillan May 2016 OP
Except for the fact that Sanders is aggressively attacking Hillary and the Democratic Party. Trust Buster May 2016 #1
He is not attacking Hillary. He is pointing out the differences between them. For example jillan May 2016 #4
That's fine if he and his supporters keep to the issues Arneoker May 2016 #40
If Sanders was not in it many would have lost interest in this race long ago Ash_F May 2016 #8
That is so true. All the excitement is on Bernie's side. jillan May 2016 #10
The God's truth. Bernie has brought millions of motivated Americans into appalachiablue May 2016 #12
A Candidate Likely To Be Indicted On Multiple Federal Charges Will NEVER Become President... CorporatistNation May 2016 #16
Except it's only leftynyc May 2016 #32
Legal experts Bye Bye Birdie May 2016 #34
LOL leftynyc May 2016 #35
They disagree with the likes of you RobertEarl May 2016 #38
You're going to be leftynyc May 2016 #39
You don't think it is sad that this is what you are waiting for? Arneoker May 2016 #41
So its Hillz and Bernie vs Trump, and Trump and Bernie vs Hillz... JaneyVee May 2016 #2
I salute your common sense. Trust Buster May 2016 #5
Leave it to you to bring genitals into the conversation. jillan May 2016 #6
Ain't it just so predictable? vintx May 2016 #27
This! Arkansas Granny May 2016 #9
His Anti-Trump Message is tougher and cleaner than the Former First Lady's... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #3
Bernie really hits him with the Birther movement. jillan May 2016 #7
Yeah, I'll bet Bernie and his buddy Jim Inhofe Arneoker May 2016 #42
That's if Sanders was really bashing Trump, that's NOT what he's doing.. he's not even softened his uponit7771 May 2016 #11
Sanders has called Trump a pathological liar Ash_F May 2016 #13
Clinton and Trump are chums. JEB May 2016 #14
In general, the more extreme attacks are left for the "attack dogs" to make... moriah May 2016 #17
Hmm I guess I was an alternate universe yesterday when nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #18
Another Strawman, you're rackin em up... I said if he was constantly bashing Clinton at the same tim uponit7771 May 2016 #19
Oh delicate flower nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #20
It can be contested and people can talk about issues instead of getting personal as Sanders has... uponit7771 May 2016 #22
You most be new to the process nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #23
Unnn, that's mainly true then ... He's been one track with a couple of comments but overall uponit7771 May 2016 #24
My goodness. nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #25
Not ones that disperrage a persons character though especially on such a non issue to the dem base uponit7771 May 2016 #29
My goodness you keep acting like a neub nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #30
Wait, Wall Street is a "non issue" to the Democratic base? panader0 May 2016 #33
Can you share some examples of the constant bashing? frylock May 2016 #36
Sanders does no good for anyone except Trump Demsrule86 May 2016 #46
Oh my gawd lesser of two evils!! frylock May 2016 #49
I have no objections if they trash Trump instead of each other. Nt moriah May 2016 #15
You might want to watch the videos nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #21
It is over Demsrule86 May 2016 #47
I did not know sanders or Clinton conceded. nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #50
Sanders message lately is that only HE can stop Trump. Metric System May 2016 #26
Another newbie. It is called an electability nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #31
and they call him 'whiny and bitter,' jillan! elleng May 2016 #28
Yet many on DU seem convinced that Trump will, in fact, become POTUS. Garrett78 May 2016 #37
In Soccer they have what is called a Super Sub. Sky Masterson May 2016 #43
No Demsrule86 May 2016 #45
I wish it were so Demsrule86 May 2016 #44
Bernie bashes Hillary much more than he bashes Trump oberliner May 2016 #48
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
1. Except for the fact that Sanders is aggressively attacking Hillary and the Democratic Party.
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:38 PM
May 2016

The costs clearly are outweighing the benefit you speak of. His supporters haven't figured out how selfish the guy is behaving.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
4. He is not attacking Hillary. He is pointing out the differences between them. For example
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:40 PM
May 2016

the IWR vote, Trade deals, TPP

Those are not attacks! Those are FACTS!

Arneoker

(375 posts)
40. That's fine if he and his supporters keep to the issues
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:43 AM
May 2016

Not all of his supporters are keeping to the issues, but tossing around crap that the sleaziest Republicans have for years.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
8. If Sanders was not in it many would have lost interest in this race long ago
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:00 PM
May 2016

Turnout will be key in November

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
12. The God's truth. Bernie has brought millions of motivated Americans into
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:05 PM
May 2016

the political process, an enormous accomplishment especially in this age of apathy and contempt.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
16. A Candidate Likely To Be Indicted On Multiple Federal Charges Will NEVER Become President...
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:40 PM
May 2016

The FBI is unwilling to take a fall of that magnitude for this certainly less than legitimate candidate!

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
38. They disagree with the likes of you
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:58 PM
May 2016

It is obvious they found something, otherwise they would have dropped it already. She's been caught!! Just a matter of time now.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
39. You're going to be
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:30 AM
May 2016

very disappointed. And your glee at even the notion of an indictment tells everyone all they need to know about you. Pathetic.

Arneoker

(375 posts)
41. You don't think it is sad that this is what you are waiting for?
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:46 AM
May 2016

This reflects your ideals? This inspires you? Really? I thought a lot of people were going for Bernie because he was leading them to something larger than themselves.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. So its Hillz and Bernie vs Trump, and Trump and Bernie vs Hillz...
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:39 PM
May 2016

Nice way to point out that its Hillary vs 2 guys and shes beating them both by millions of votes.

Also, this proves that no one is attacking Bernie.

 

NewImproved Deal

(534 posts)
3. His Anti-Trump Message is tougher and cleaner than the Former First Lady's...
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:39 PM
May 2016

The Two Oligarchs have too much in common...

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Arneoker

(375 posts)
42. Yeah, I'll bet Bernie and his buddy Jim Inhofe
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:49 AM
May 2016

Retch when they see this picture, after Jim talks about how climate change is such a hoax.

I'm sorry, but this kind of argument is so dumb. People socialize across political lines.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
11. That's if Sanders was really bashing Trump, that's NOT what he's doing.. he's not even softened his
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:05 PM
May 2016

... stance on HRC up at all and the DNC is now some "rigged" system that the long shot black guy won with in 2008.

If Sanders was consummately on Trump I'd give it to him but some shit he says is over the top

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
13. Sanders has called Trump a pathological liar
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:09 PM
May 2016

Clinton has never said anything close to as scathing.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
17. In general, the more extreme attacks are left for the "attack dogs" to make...
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:53 PM
May 2016

... while letting the potential president seem to only addess issues and incompetence, which she does often.

I'm glad Bernie and Elizabeth Warren, among others, have been doing the baiting there, if for no other reason than with Trump's extremely personal attacks against her and her family aren't going to play well to a lot of people.

Remember, Trump writes his own ads against him:

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
19. Another Strawman, you're rackin em up... I said if he was constantly bashing Clinton at the same tim
Mon May 23, 2016, 05:10 AM
May 2016

... which hurts her too and his "riggged" claim when it comes to the DNC.

We'll see

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
22. It can be contested and people can talk about issues instead of getting personal as Sanders has...
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:02 PM
May 2016

... cause he's the only one who has gotten consistently personal attaching HRC to the privileged peoples boogyman of Wall Street.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
23. You most be new to the process
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:04 PM
May 2016

Because this has been one of the least nasty runs for office I have seen. 2008 there were more blows...for example. That is my conclusion at this point. All you guys are 18 year olds just paying attention to this for the first time. Can't wait for the summer. I promise cookies and milk when it gets too bad

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
24. Unnn, that's mainly true then ... He's been one track with a couple of comments but overall
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:07 PM
May 2016

... I don't think Clinton deserves the net negative from Sanders supporters or grass roots.

There have been intimations even here there's no difference between an overt racist, sexist asshole in tRump and Clinton and Sanders himself said recently that she may be the least of two evils.

There's no rational argument that's she's right of center seeing her life's work on progressive issues, she's certainly not more left than Sanders by a mile but that doesn't disqualify her.

I like the 72% number from the other pool in regards to Sanders supporters voting for Hillary...

Makes me think a lot of RFing is going on in the DNC in regards to Hillary's likability

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
29. Not ones that disperrage a persons character though especially on such a non issue to the dem base
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:44 PM
May 2016

... as Wall Street.

It's a tailor made message for the wrong crowd

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
30. My goodness you keep acting like a neub
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:46 PM
May 2016

I cannot wait for the MIRV deployment in the summer. Will be fun to watch you guys. Hey, I need to be entertained. And I admit, this will be

Demsrule86

(68,595 posts)
46. Sanders does no good for anyone except Trump
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:03 AM
May 2016

"While Mr. Sanders says he does not want Mr. Trump to win in November, his advisers and allies say he is willing to do some harm to Mrs. Clinton in the shorter term if it means he can capture a majority of the 475 pledged delegates at stake in California and arrive at the Philadelphia convention with maximum political power.

Tad Devine, a senior adviser to Mr. Sanders, said the campaign did not think its attacks would help Mr. Trump in the long run, but added that the senator’s team was “not thinking about” the possibility that they could help derail Mrs. Clinton from becoming the first woman elected president."

Yeah from the horses mouth...hurt Clinton. How about she is the lesser of two evils? he said that ...on Sunday...just listen to any speech. Oh and Weaver said that all the Donalds attacks on Clinton were true...yesterday...I have come to despise Sanders because of his behavior.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/19/us/politics/bernie-sanderss-campaign-accuses-head-of-dnc-of-favoritism.html

frylock

(34,825 posts)
49. Oh my gawd lesser of two evils!!
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:16 AM
May 2016

Oh, the humanity. This is worse than that time Bernie called her the U-word. You'd better buck up, buttercup. Trump isn't going to be cowed by your Twitter tantrums.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
50. I did not know sanders or Clinton conceded.
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:12 PM
May 2016

When did that happen? And helping Trump...are you new to the process?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
31. Another newbie. It is called an electability
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:48 PM
May 2016

argument. It is a classic in close races, and this technically still is close.

My goodness...and I thought posters here were more sophisticated. This summer will be lots of fun. In a tragic way though

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
43. In Soccer they have what is called a Super Sub.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:53 AM
May 2016

You play the game for 80 or so minutes and when the player is tired or hurt you put in a fresh horse.
This quite often happens in the game and births many come from behind victories.
It happened two weeks ago for Sporting KC (The Greatest team in AMERICA!).
You Red Card Bernie too soon and you're down a man when you may need him the most.
This is another positive that the Dem party needs to embrace and STOP trying to bully him out of it.

Demsrule86

(68,595 posts)
44. I wish it were so
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:56 AM
May 2016

I heard Bernie on the Sunday shows...it was Trump who? He bashed Hillary from start to finish...so what we have is Trump and Sanders teaming up to attack Hillary...Weaver even said Trump's attacks against Hillary were true yesterday...who needs 'help' like that? Sanders seems to dislike Hillary way more than Trump...go figure.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
48. Bernie bashes Hillary much more than he bashes Trump
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:27 AM
May 2016

And his supporters respond much more fervently to the former than the latter.

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