Hillary should offer Bernie the Veepship...

[First Speaker]

...I voted for Bernie, but can face reality--it's likely to be Hillary. I think having a united party, at this point, is more important than any other of the usual considerations she might be mulling over--geography, ethnicity, age, etc. I'm not sure Bernie would be the "strongest" VP choice--my vote for that would be Sherrod Brown of Ohio. But Bernie would more than hold his own with any right-wing clown Trump is likely to nominate. And I think Bernie on the ticket would bring over nearly all his supporters. A united Democratic Party will win this November; a divided one will likely lose. And this is the way to get it united.

[writes3000]

1. I'd support that. I also remember Obama being told he needed to make Hillary VP in 2008.

And I remember people saying Biden should step down in 2012 so Hillary could join the ticket.

Fun times.

[bkkyosemite]

2. I disagree. What Bernie is running on is not the same as what HRC is running on.

[oasis]

3. Knowing Debbie Wasserman Schultz is likely to be in her cabinet,

Hillary would have to pass on Bernie as Veep.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Oh Goody

I can smell the competence all the way from the west coast.

[oasis]

24. Deb would be my pick for Press Secretary if she loses her congressional seat.

I expect a revenge minded Bernie force to wage a concentrated campaign against her this summer.

[Warren DeMontague]

45. Press secretary?

She sounds like she's eating marbles, every time she talks.

[brooklynite]

18. Point to any evidence that Clinton is considering DWS for her Cabinet

...besides "we all know" assertions.

[oasis]

22. It makes sense. A revenge minded Bernie brigade will concentrate

on removing DWS from congress. I can't see a sharp and talented Democrat like Debbie being out of public office and left to twist in the wind.

[Warren DeMontague]

49. She could get the AG slot, then she can get to work rounding up pot smokers in legal states.

YAY!!!!

[immoderate]

52. Debbie is the darling of her constituents. It will be very, very hard to remove her.

--imm

[One Black Sheep]

4. I doubt it. Hillary wants some outsider businessman as her VP

she said as much in an interview today. She thinks that will help her against Trump, somehow.

[Fast Walker 52]

60. WTF? Seriously?

[Dem2]

5. She should offer it

...and he should gracefully refuse it. It would be a good show but I don't think it's the strongest ticket for the Dems unless unity is considered to be a top priority at the time of her decision.

[SheilaT]

6. I can't begin to imagine she would.

The main problem is that they are very far apart on many things, and it's impossible to picture him abandoning his principles to support her.

I'd likewise love to see Sherrod Brown on the ticket, but can't imagine that one happening.

She'll go with some supposedly "safe" choice, someone decades younger.

[msongs]

16. he abandoned his prinicples to run as a democrat. nothing new for him

[SheilaT]

41. No, he did not abandon his princeples to run as a Democrat.

He made a pragmatic decision -- and isn't it odd to think that Hillary is considered the pragmatic one who can get things done. Besides which he has caucused with the Democrats since he first entered Congress some 25 years ago. More to the point, he is a genuine Democrat, one who stays true to the principles of FDR, while Hillary blows in the wind, changing her positions and stands as she thinks those changes will benefit her.

[immoderate]

54. LOL! He's always been a democrat. It's *Democrats* that lack principle.

And it's why he ran as an independent.

--imm

[Lucinda]

7. Nope. n/t

[oldandhappy]

8. Never

Too different agendas. And clinton will not have someone who might out shine her and she would never tolerate the 'Bernie Bernie Bernie' chant.

[Hekate]

9. Bitter old man bellowing one message....

Nah. Probably not a good fit.

[LuvLoogie]

11. He keeps to one message, yet has no focus.

[Warren DeMontague]

14. Nah, we'll find someone nice and bland with no message at all, amirite?

Maybe someone who says "God" a lot and can appeal to the megachurch moms, or someone who promises to get tough on the marijuana menace.

[Fast Walker 52]

61. I certainly doubt she will pick anyone that will appease liberals.

As someone wrote above, she hinted at an outsider businessman.

[Warren DeMontague]

62. Clinton-Clinton: She could always put the *other* Clinton on the ticket.

Ah, a man can dream.

[pinebox]

32. One message?

Funny that one message.
Which one exactly?

Universal health care?
A living wage?
Free education?
Maternal leave?
Trade deals?
Cut military spending?
Strengthening unions?
Holding wall street and big banks accountable?
Strengthening social security?

Of course there's more too. Funny thing that one message, isn't it?

[demmiblue]

33. Classy. n/t

[polly7]

34. Just one little message.

Is that like one little speech?

Any bigoted remarks you think should have also been added here? Ageism is ugly.

[jillan]

47. "Old man" I get a kick out of Hillary supporters ignoring the fact that she will be 70

at the end of her first year in office. IF she is elected.

And also ignoring her major health problems. Bernie may be 5 years older than her but he is in better health.

[LuvLoogie]

10. No. He would never be "part" of an administration except as head of his own.

[akbacchus_BC]

12. You are joking, right! Hillary is vicious and there is no

way, she will work with Mr. Sanders for the good of America. He is already a thorn on her sights to the White House!

[Buzz cook]

13. Bernie would refuse

That's why Clinton would never offer.

[Demsrule86]

36. He would love to be VP

and all that goes with it...he has changed. But I hope she gives him nothing ...after yesterday Sunday shows... I have no use for him.

[SheilaT]

40. How exactly do you know this?

Does he phone you at night, and reveal his innermost thoughts to you?

[Demsrule86]

50. I watched him on interviews

This is a question they pretty much always ask...and he says...oh we have primary to win first-premature talk ...yeah right....but he never says no. She will not ask him...and I am glad ...he has a lot of stuff that will come out if he is in the general. He can't help us.

[SheilaT]

56. I will disagree.

I think he's obfuscating on the Sunday shows just to keep those idiots from starting to talk about how he thinks he's too good for the VP slot, or some such nonsense.

There is no way he would want to be Hillary's VP.

[HereSince1628]

17. I don't see that as workable

It's based on thinking that doesn't address ardent Sanders supporters' interest in Plan B if Sanders fails. That Plan B is about a movement that builds a caucus that displaces democrats who prefer serving corporations from control of the party

No, the best thing going for the Dems in the GE is FEAR-OF-TRUMP. The DNC and Clinton campaign need to ramp up Trump fear and provide a warrior who eagerly fights that beast. Sanders approach to that battle would produce way too much collateral damage for HRC and dems that love corporations.

I expect Clinton will pick someone who both identifies with targets of Trump's rhetoric, and an existing constituency within what HRC and the DNC see as the base that they want to build on.

The future they see for their party isn't populist reform serving the needs of under 35's, it's in people who will age into temperate asset holding 40+ somethings able to work success from within the system.

My expectation is she'll look for, and settle, on a vp candidate that fits that model.

[agracie]

19. No.No.No. Just. No.

[VulgarPoet]

20. Hell. No.

[B Calm]

21. She thinks she can win with Republican voters not happy with Trump. Sad for us.

[Demsrule86]

51. My kids are Bernie supporters

and everyone of them will vote for Hillary...not everyone is as devoted to Bernie as you ...my kids are unwilling to go over the Trump cliff and lose any chance of progress for a generation by allowing the GOP to pack the courts. We live in the swing state of Ohio...there are way more important things than a Senator from Vermont at stake here. I already have former Bernie supporters in my GE group; there will be more after California or so I hear...we will call and knock on doors...register voters...get people to vote early since Kasich has closed thousands of polls in Dem areas. Have lawyers standing by as they will f with the vote in Cleveland and Cincy...and Youngstown too...you think we care about Bernie Sanders?

[B Calm]

57. Hillary did land a Koch endorsement, maybe she can win without the help of the Bernie supporters.

[sufrommich]

23. It's not going to happen. Clinton isn't going to

go with a VP who's older than her.

[seabeyond]

26. And that is another reason. Nt

[seabeyond]

25. No way, no how. He cannot be trusted. One must be able to trust VP. He blames attacks and falsely

accuses Clinton of stuff. He does not work with others, and he certainly would not know his place (yes I said it, Clinton would be boss), as an underling, I feel, especially to a woman.

No way, no how.

[pinebox]

27. hell no and #HillNo

[YouDig]

28. Not a bad idea. I don't think a "conventional" VP choice would help her much, because

she's already conventional. An out of the box choice like Bernie, or in the other direction Mike Bloomberg, could help widen her appeal.

[RKP5637]

29. Doubtful that would happen IMO. n/t

[polly7]

30. Good god, no. He's got too many morals and standards to settle for working

for one of those very people championing everything he's worked against for so long. Can anyone even imagine him gathering support for the next regime-change, lowering of wages for the already poverty stricken in nations suffering so badly, pushing foreign gov'ts to support fracking against the will of their own people, keeping big money in politics, etc. etc. etc. I certainly can't. You can't take the decency out of a man who's lived it all his life.

[asuhornets]

31. That question was ask of him this weekend--Sanders did not rule it out.

I say no..

[Lizzie Poppet]

35. I'd like to think that if offered, Bernie would tell her to shove it.

Not publicly, of course...that would be rude!

[Demsrule86]

37. Really?

He is practically begging for it.

[KingFlorez]

38. He wouldn't get that opportunity because she won't make an offer.

[SidDithers]

39. Hard no...nt

Sid

[pdsimdars]

42. I don't think Bernie should offer Hillary the VP spot. I want another progressive.

[Demsrule86]

53. Feel the Bern Delusion

A big who cares...time to move on to the GE.

[Attorney in Texas]

43. She should offer it for the good of the party, and he should decline for the good of the party. She

should ask for his input and pick a progressive VP candidate who does not cost us a seat in the Senate.

She should split the key committees 51%-49%.

She should ask DWS to be absent from the convention and she should make sure the FDR-Sanders-Warren wing of the party is front and center at the convention.

They should publicly say that they were talking about a Sanders VP position and mutually concluded the party would be better served by giving Sanders a key role in the Senate campaigns in Wisconsin, Colorado, and New Hampshire where the Sanders campaign was very strong and those races could tip the balance of control as well as a role in some key house races that are demographically suited to feel the Bern (districts with progressive Democratic candidates and a young, more liberal voter base where we win with a high turnout but the race is tight without a better-than-standard turn out).

It is not too late to bring the Sanders movement into the tent, but it will take the sort of work a leader from the establishment wing can achieve but which a vain self-centered centrist would be incapable of accomplishing.

[Myrina]

44. Oh hell no.

That would be taking away his power in the Senate. He would be stupid to accept that 'official funeral attender' office.

[Cali_Democrat]

46. No. nt

[anotherproletariat]

48. As a Hillary supporter, there are plus sides to this idea...

It gets Sanders out of the senate, and essentially removes any power he might have had as a result of doing better than expected in the primary. VT has a Democratic governor, so no worries about losing a seat.

Hillary can decide how much visibility he gets. And it might be kind of fun for her to be his boss.

And finally, if you play the odds, and consider the average male U.S. life expectancy is 76...then Hillary might be able to appoint another VP at some point during her term...so could have the freedom to chose a person who is more like-minded (and who doesn't have to face the voters).

All in all, I think there are better options to increase the popularity of the ticket, but I don't think a Clinton/Sanders ticket is as awful as some might think.

[Cobalt Violet]

55. That would be the only way I'd vote for her.

[Demsrule86]

58. No Bernie

is a backstabber and can not expect to be trusted at this point.

[Lil Missy]

59. hell no. Bernie can get a show on Fox News, where nobody has to listen to him anymore

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