Email-gate began with a 2012 letter from Darrel Issa to Clinton regarding her use of private email.

[ucrdem]

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And even that wasn't really the beginning as Issa's "investigation" had begun even earlier. It did not, repeat not by any stretch of the RWNJ imagination begin with John Kerry. That is SBVT lunacy. Here's an April 2015 NYT article about Issa's 2012 letter:

Hillary Clinton Was Asked About Email 2 Years Ago
By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT - NYT - APRIL 14, 2015

WASHINGTON — Hillary Rodham Clinton was directly asked by congressional investigators in a December 2012 letter whether she had used a private email account while serving as secretary of state, according to letters obtained by The New York Times.

{snip per request}

The query was posed to Mrs. Clinton in a Dec. 13, 2012, letter from Representative Darrell Issa, the Republican chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Mr. Issa was leading an investigation into how the Obama administration handled its officials’ use of personal email.

“Have you or any senior agency official ever used a personal email account to conduct official business?” Mr. Issa wrote to Mrs. Clinton. “If so, please identify the account used.”

Mr. Issa also asked Mrs. Clinton, “Does the agency require employees to certify on a periodic basis or at the end of their employment with the agency they have turned over any communications involving official business that they have sent or received using nonofficial accounts?”

Mr. Issa’s letter also sought written documentation of the department’s policies for the use of personal email for government business. Mrs. Clinton left the State Department on Feb. 1, 2013, seven weeks after the letter was sent to her.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/us/politics/hillary-clintonwas-asked-about-email-2-years-ago.html

[merrily]

1. "But Mrs. Clinton did not reply to the letter. And when the State Department answered in March 2013,

nearly two months after she left office, it ignored the question and provided no response."

Classic Clinton.

[ucrdem]

4. Yes, and isn't it delicious.

My point is that dragging Kerry into this and trying to pin it on him is utter lunacy. Well, maybe it was that full moon last night.

[merrily]

6. Nothing the least bit delicious about their sense that they are answerable to no one.

Entitlement, privilege to the nth degree.

[ucrdem]

2. More from the Times article: the initial response

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Snipped per copyright request; the next three paragraphs basically explain that Issa received a response on March 27 detailing the department's email policies but not going into any specifics. There's also a paragraph providing Clinton's explanation that she used a private account on a personal service for personal email basically so she could read them from "one device."

[ucrdem]

3. End of the Times article: the response to the NYT

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Snipped per copyright request. The last 8 paragraphs basically describe a pas-de-deux between Issa and State department lawyers who explain that the policy was standard practice at the time and her use of the server was widely known and clear to recipients of her personal email as her private email address was visible on every email she sent, and so on, in response to which Issa says yeah we're investigating them too, etc.

[ucrdem]

10. I'll see if I can boil it down. nt

[ucrdem]

14. Yes, last time I checked. No worries, I boiled it down.

[IdaBriggs]

5. Good for him - I was wondering why NO ONE could figure out she

wasn't using a ".gov" account. So, she basically ignored it for two years until Kerry's state department lawyers flipped out in 2014?

[ucrdem]

8. Whatever the State department did in 2015 was no doubt in fulfillment of its legal obligations.

The investigations were already well under way in 2015.

[IdaBriggs]

11. I think the "John Kerry" posts are to stress that compliance

occurred under John Kerry's watch. The original failure to comply with archiving and FOIA issues occurred under Clinton. Ignoring Issa was incredibly ... arrogant.

[karynnj]

22. This started the SD IG investigation

There are multiple investigations in parallel. The SD investigation is looking at the internal SD practices in HRC's term and going forward looking at how things were and are handled now.

I do not think we know precisely when the FBI or the Intelligence IG investigations started. However, though the FOIA Investigations and Issa's make more noise, it is significant that there are these investigations.

[Yurovsky]

7. The actual start was her initial creation of a private server...

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discovery of her acts was merely the beginning of the investigation.

[ucrdem]

12. She wanted to keep using her Blackberry and the NSA said no, you need to use this thing

and gave her some kind of Windows shoephone, so it sounds like she wanted to use it to read her personal email and set up the personal server to do it. Yes it sounds a bit rinky-dink if not sketchy but a crime was not committed and, to put it bluntly, she was the boss. But if Obama wants to take her to the woodshed I'm sure he will.

[Ichingcarpenter]

17. Obama and his blackberry ........oh and btw Hillary is NOT THE BOSS.

Barack Obama gets to keep his beloved BlackBerry with him in the White House for personal use,

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28780205/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/obama-gets-keep-his-blackberry/#.V0Lu3Pl96cO

Read the story its from 2008 from NBC but it states the reasons he followed the law and SHE DIDN'T

[cherokeeprogressive]

20. Shoephone, right.

[ucrdem]

21. Here's what they recommended

which must be what she used as she didn't get a Blackberry waiver:


http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/03/this-is-the-phone-nsa-suggested-clinton-use-a-4750-windows-ce-pda/

[cherokeeprogressive]

23. Strangest looking shoe I've ever seen. No Nike "swoosh" or Adidas stripes!

[ucrdem]

26. It's a hershoe.

Haven't you ever played hershoes?

[cherokeeprogressive]

29. Now THAT, is funny. Hack with an axe to grind, hershoe... you're on a roll today!

Mad props my friend. Those two stingers are going to leave marks.

Three people stopped by my office door to ask what was so funny. Hershoes. Not one of them got the joke. Good one!

[ucrdem]

30. hey glad you liked it!

happy Monday!

[cherokeeprogressive]

33. Nothin' happy about Mondays!

Back atcha though.

[baldguy]

15. Just another Republican-created "scandal" trying to slime a Clinton.

And the Berniestas drool all over it.

[ucrdem]

16. That's the long and short of it.

I guess the lesson here is, if it looks like a 200% partisan witch hunt, dig a little and you'll find that surprise, it really is a 200% partisan witchhunt. Meaning there is no rational reason for it, no rational end to it, not even any goalposts to move, it just is.

Welp, now we know.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

18. Issa never should have had cause to ask.

By the way, how did Issa come to learn of the server?

[karynnj]

34. Like everyone else 2 years later - he likely read the NYT in 2015

Nothing in the question suggests he knew she had her own server or that she never used the .gov one. He simply thought it unlikely that there were so few emails - sometimes none at all - in response to inquiries.

[cherokeeprogressive]

19. I thought it began with a hack.

[ucrdem]

24. A hack with a axe to grind.

[cherokeeprogressive]

25. I see what you did there.

Nice.

But still...

[JRLeft]

27. Darryl Issa is shittier than fecal matter.

I couldn't ever use him as a source he's a fisher.

[apcalc]

28. Darrel Issa is a huge Republican POS, and always has been.

[KingFlorez]

31. This man steals cars and sets fires to collect insurance

He needs to be investigation himself, because he is shady.

[ucrdem]

32. Yes. Emailgate is Issa's pet scandal. Kerry's got better things to do. nt

[frylock]

35. He's doing a fantastic job of cleaning up the mess he inherited from Secretary Clinton.