Trump and Clinton on guns: two visions of race, justice and policing in the US

[riversedge]

I do believe Hillary will try her best to get more #gunsense regulations in place.


Trump and Clinton on guns: two visions of race, justice and policing in the US

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/21/trump-clinton-gun-control-policies-race-policing

Amid a national discussion of police violence and a series of high-profile shootings, the 2016 election has seen a rare focus on the fight for gun control



http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/21/trump-clinton-gun-control-policies-race-policing

Hillary Clinton visits a memorial dedicated to victims of gun violence called ‘Kids of the Block’, in Chicago in March. Photograph: Carlos Barria/Reuters


Saturday 21 May 2016 13.00 EDT
Last modified on Sunday 22 May 2016 09.14 EDT


Donald Trump endorsed by NRA despite history of gun control support


For years seen as a losing battle, the push for gun control has become a central conflict of the 2016 presidential election, and part of a broader struggle between competing visions of policing, justice and racism in America.

Donald Trump, the presumptive nominee of the Republican party, has pledged that if elected he will eliminate “gun-free zones” and make it easier to carry a concealed firearm in all 50 states. National Rifle Association members cheered him on Friday after their leaders endorsed his candidacy. “I will not let you down,” Trump told them.

His likely Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, has promised the opposite: she will take on America’s gun lobby from her “very first day” in office. One of her advisers announced on Friday that she believed a landmark 2008 supreme court decision protecting gun rights had been “wrongly decided”. “We have just too many guns – on the streets, in our homes, in our neighborhoods,” she said last month.

Each candidate has made appeals to very specific demographics, implicitly linking the questions of gun rights and gun violence to race. In addressing the NRA’s annual meeting Friday, Trump spoke to an older, largely white crowd, and the NRA’s CEO, Wayne La Pierre, spoke to that crowd in exclusionary terms. ...............................



................Following a mass shooting at a community college in Oregon last October, which left nine victims and the perpetrator dead, Clinton unveiled an expansive plan aimed at reducing gun violence. Among its key tenets were universal background checks, a ban on assault weapons, and a push to hold gun dealers and manufacturers accountable for gun violence, including by repealing a 2005 law that bars lawsuits against gun companies when a legally sold gun is later used in a crime.


..................Trump, who has now adopted a hard line on the gun issue, once supported an assault weapons ban, and following the 2012 elementary school massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, tweeted that Barack Obama “spoke for me and every American in his remarks” on the tragedy. More recently, Trump has repeatedly argued that the carnage of terrorist attacks and mass shootings could be reduced, or even prevented entirely, if more people carried guns. ..........................



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vooda ‏@vooda1 May 13

#gunsense #hillarysoqualified The only candidate with a backbone of steel 2 take on the NRA.






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[TeddyR]

1. The only problem with the claim that

Hillary has a plan to reduce firearms violence is that none of her proposals would actually impact violence levels.

For example, how would being able to sue gun manufacturers for misuse of their product impact gun violence? Moreover, despite how litigious we are in the US and despite the efforts to eliminate individual responsibility, we don't sue InBev when someone gets drunk and kills another with his or her car. Why? Because individuals are responsible for their actions, and InBev or Ford didn't cause an individual to drink and drive.

[riversedge]

2. She will try to make guns less available.

[JRLeft]

4. Except to foreign authoritarian governments.

[JaneyVee]

3. Universal background checks, gun show loopholes, stopping the iron pipeline, etc.

Theres plenty we can do to reduce gun violence.

[catnhatnh]

5. We will assume then...

...that the Pennsylvania primary is over....