"Bernie Loses His Halo. Even progressives are criticizing him now after he’s shown a harder edge."

[Surya Gayatri]

...If Bernie wants to own the moral high ground at the convention, he’ll need to return the focus of his campaign to the issues in its final days.

...

Actually, Sanders hasn’t lost much support among his most avid supporters—who do not include Moulitsas, a sometime critic. What we are seeing, however, is that it’s no longer taboo in liberal circles to attack Sanders as he drags out the nomination process at a time when many are itching to turn their fire on Donald Trump. And if his reputation in the party is being damaged outside his base, that will make it harder for him to extract concessions from Clinton regarding the platform and party nomination rules at the convention.

Through much of the campaign, Sanders wore a progressive halo, making it tricky for Clinton to play classic hardball politics (not that she didn’t try). Even if Democratic voters didn’t believe he was the practical choice, his platform still spoke to the ideological aspirations of many in the party. His supporters heard, “I like Bernie, but…” so much that they turned it into a website providing information designed to assuage unsure voters.

Much of the warm, fuzzy sentiment was based on a perception of Sanders as a non-politician, a man so wedded to his ideals that he would not besmirch them by engaging in petty politics. Democrats of all stripes lauded Sanders in October when he went out of his way to keep the debate focus on policy and take an enticing line of attack off the table, thundering, “The American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails.”

But in the months that followed, the Sanders campaign adopted an increasingly harder edge, gradually depriving him of angelic protections. Now, with only six states remaining on the primary calendar, the delegate math harder and harder to ignore, and the Clinton’s lead over Donald Trump short of insurmountable, partisan impulses on the left are kicking in, and patience for squabbles is wearing thin.
...

Right now, the media is getting a lot of the sport it likes, and Sanders is getting a lot less of what he likes. He might consider delivering a speech on how giving reporters fodder for stories about discord only serves to take the spotlight away from income inequality and corporate influence over democracy – which would be a way to urge better behavior from his supporters without sounding like he’s scolding them.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/bernie-sanders-loses-his-halo-213911
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Good analysis and valid advice for the Bern.

[seabeyond]

1. It was the perception we had, that Sanders slowly showed us otherwise. Nt

[Surya Gayatri]

3. Sadly, too many of us have lost the goodwill and respect we had for Sanders when he

first launched his quixotic campaign.

Until February, I would've been perfectly happy to vote for either him or Hill in the GE. Sure, I had a penchant for Hill, but Bernie would've been fine.

Now, I firmly believe that he has neither the temperament nor the political acumen to serve as President. His campaign has proven that verity to me.

[seabeyond]

5. I would hear the tells from Sanders himself that told me was not coming just from his team, or

supporters but the man at the top. I disconnected from him early on, listening to him and educating myself. Also a big part was listening to the truth about Clinton, not the smears. But now I am with you. I do not respect the man. To run on integrity but lack so, really pisses me off.

Mostly his is merely being a politician but even that, he denies and points the fingers at others.

Along with SUper Pacs, taking money from Wall Street and banks, having donations from fracking. Just so much hypocrisy that he boldly put out there.

I would vote for him, only because of the Supreme court, and even that, I am no longer confident in his choice. But, I do not respect the man any more.

[Surya Gayatri]

9. ^^^This!^^^

"Mostly his is merely being a politician but even that, he denies and points the fingers at others."

[Baobab]

138. Do you "spinners" realize you're alienating more and more Democrats from HRC by lying?

nt

[merrily]

7. One of several false flag operations of the Hillary campaign #BernieLostMe.

[virtualobserver]

12. Yes. Apparently some Hillary supporters are STILL Hillary supporters. News Alert!

[merrily]

44. #HillaryLostMe the same way Bernie lost the Hillary supporters posing as Bernie's supporters.

She never had me to lose and Bernie never had them to lose. It's all bs.

http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?11573-The-Sit-Down-and-Shut-Up-Award-and-Other-Realities&p=71850#post71850

[Demsrule86]

63. Did you see Bernie on Sunday

He is now dead to me ...like Nader.

[merrily]

75. LOL! As if you loved him before Sunday?

[Demsrule86]

78. Of course not

I have not liked him in a while...but I could not believe what he said...he is now dead to me like Nader...cut from the same cloth.

[merrily]

85. IOW, you didn't like him before and nothing changed. I'll alert the media.

[Peace Patriot]

119. Funny how Sanders demolishes Trump in all polls and Clinton can't even break even....

...with Trump in recent polls.

And y'all want to "move on" to the GE?

"Sadly," "too many of you" just don't get it. Clinton has no appeal to half of us Democrats, who in total comprise a rather small demographic in the GE voting population, which is now dominated by Independents (40+% of the electorate) who loathe Clinton. Bernie draws Independents, young people and disaffected voters of all kinds, and draws them in droves. Clinton's negatives may well destroy the Democratic Party in the GE.

[bjo59]

135. Oh, come on. You know that if his campaign had just been "quixotic," you would never have to

actually vote for him... ever. His "crime" for you guys is that he's run a campaign that hasn't been quixotic at all.

[Hortensis]

142. No. Most of us were at least

Mildly interested and sympathetic, but he proved himself less than hoped, frankly in all ways except ruthless ATTEMPTED manipulation of his followers, the press, legal system, and party rules, all abuse of the democratic process itself.

Very much not acceptable.

[MaeScott]

54. Wendell Pierce, a Hillary supporter, was arrested for violence against a female Sanders supporter.

But that news got quashed real quick and supplanted with the lies out of Nevada, which covered up also the real shenanigans pulled by the HRC delagate officials. Who then played the victim card

we see you

[CorporatistNation]

141. At THIS Point Hillary Desereves ALL The CRITICISM That Can Be Levied At Her! To Date, Her "History"

had been largely IGNORED! Now it is time for Hillary to stand up and deal with the HONEST Scrutiny... She is trying to become POTUS is she not?

Here is a solemn example from last week... NOT one soul to blame but HERSELF!

MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

[B Calm]

2. You posted about 99% of the entire article, not much more to read at the link. You should shorten it

or DU could get in trouble.

DMCA Copyright Policy
Do not copy-and-paste entire articles onto this discussion forum. When referencing copyrighted work, post a short excerpt with a link back to the original.

[pinebox]

22. He posted 30% of the article

5 paragraphs isn't equal to 16. The rules state 4 paragraphs. He's fine.

[B Calm]

24. Funny, only one sentence left in article, does not equal 5 paragraphs.

[pinebox]

25. If that be the case

and he condensed, then we have a problem.

I really wish more sites used CC.

[MaeScott]

4. Lolololol. More from the Brockettes. What about Wendell Pierce..

Has Hillary apologized for his assault on a female Bernie supporter?

[riversedge]

38. More Sanders fans obsession with Brock. Chuckle

[Phlem]

41. and more bullshit from Hillary fans.

[wildeyed]

90. I'm still not totally sure who that guy is or why

they are so focused on him. It seems out of proportion to the guy's actual power and abilities.

Note to the Brock obsessed: Please do not tell me. If I wanted to know, I would look it up myself.

[Number23]

124. He's the guy the Berned Outs have been convinced -- CONVINCED!!!1 -- would distract everyone

from their despicable behavior in Nevada.

One dude who assaulted a woman (and WENT TO JAIL) is, in their minds, equal to or much greater than the hundreds and hundreds of Sanders supporters who have showed their asses on Twitter, Facebook, Democratic rallies, Democratic conventions and on people's cell phones and landlines.

#berniemath at its finest.

[tazkcmo]

130. I know, right?

After all, he probably didn't hit her as hard as could have. Besides, yelling and shouting or texting or posting comments is much worse than a woman beater. Go Hillary!

[Number23]

137. That's the spirit! Keep effing that chicken! Soon EVERYONE will agree that one guy who assaulted

someone AND WENT TO JAIL for it is far, far, FAR worse than the hundreds upon hundreds of people who have sent death threats to Democratic officials, called a female Senator a "bitch," posted the personal information of superdelegates for funsies, threatened to cut out the tongue of another member of the Senate, and behaved like crack-addled psychopaths up and down the Internet for MONTHS on end.

That one guy is much, much worse than the 7,319 Sanders supporters who have lost their minds! Much worse! We're all going to believe it any second now! Seriesly!!11

[tazkcmo]

127. "Please do not tell me. If I wanted to know, I would look it up myself."

That is the definition of willful ignorance.

[wildeyed]

129. No, just a good bullshit detector.

[tazkcmo]

131. Willful ignorance.

You don't want to know. It may not fit your reality.

[wildeyed]

132. Or it might be that I know more than you think.

You are the one claiming to know the motivation of anonymous posters on the interwebs, so perhaps you are the one with reality issues.

I'm done with this now. I know who David Brock is and what he does. I really have no interest in discussing it with people who seem a tad obsessed with the guy. It is boring because you guys do it too much

[apnu]

6. K&R! (nt)

[gordianot]

8. Imagine that a politician without a halo.

When you try to fit a halo around the horns that is called Primary Season.

[Surya Gayatri]

11. Yup, the truth will out. The halo has slipped far down his forehead.

[gordianot]

15. Considering his main opponent never had a halo.

[Surya Gayatri]

16. Exactly. Hill supporters tend to come down on the side of reality rather than pipedreams.

I've yet to encounter a Clinton supporter who considers her as some kind of paragon. She is a politician, flaws and all.

[gordianot]

20. Good to hear that because the delusion of DU Hillary is very strong.

Some real life Hillary supporters I know in the flesh despise her. I have yet to hear in the flesh either a Hillary or Sanders supporter tear into a personal attack of their respective candidates. I attend monthly Democratic Committee meetings plenty of opportunity for such encounters.

[haikugal]

34. The Clinton campaign, manufactured truth is known......

[SamKnause]

10. I was not aware that he had a halo.

He represents integrity, honesty, and has great fortitude.

He has earned my respect.

He has earned my admiration.

None of these attributes have been diminished in any way whatsoever.

I am extremely proud of my candidate.

What he has accomplished is nothing short of amazing.

[Surya Gayatri]

14. I never envisaged him wearing one, but many of his

most progressive promoters did. They're beginning to see the reality behind the hype.

[Armstead]

13. More shallow garbage

People were attracted to Sanders in part because he is a fighter. The fact that he is continuing the fight is a strength, not a weakness.

The "raised pinky" objections that he didn't tell his supporters to "go to hell and behave" in terms the Clintonian Yuppie progressives like Josh Marshall and Markos feel is not strong enough is just more propaganda from the Conventional Wisdom Machine. Even that Sally Kohn article was filled with the standard cliches that Sanders is the candidate of "angry white men" and "Berniebros."

Sanders does not have a "halo." He is a politician, always has been. But that also means he knows how to fight and is willing to fight for principles he and his supporters believe in. Nothing wrong with that.

[floppyboo]

114. ^like^

The OP is such transparent propaganda in any case. Let's get people repeating it! Problem is, not many Bernie supporters are buying that crud anymore or trusting the MSM anymore than they trust Hillary's 'love and kindness' - on Many issues! And that trend isn't going away! Go Bernie!

[John Poet]

17. 'Progressives criticizing Bernie now'? Yeah, ok---

He should have shown this "harder edge" long before the Iowa vote,
and battered the hell out of Hillary with negative ads
the whole campaign through.

That's my criticism of Bernie. He handled Hillary with kid gloves for too goddam long.

[Surya Gayatri]

19. Like the "hard" approach is working SO well for him now.

Rank and file Dems are repulsed by his inflammatory rhetoric.

(Remember how he went negative in NY? That really worked well.)

[Demsrule86]

64. On every site Bernie is being lambasted

and deservedly.

[tazkcmo]

128. And they're being well paid to do it!

Good on Brock for being a job creator, eh?

[bobbobbins01]

18. This is one of those attacks

That Hillary says have never been used against Bernie. I wonder who's behind it.

[hellofromreddit]

21. From the same mind that brought you "Why It's OK to Accept Wall Street Campaign Cash"

That article also makes no damn sense.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/02/08/why_its_ok_to_accept_wall_street_campaign_cash_129584.html

[Herman4747]

23. Compared to Hillary, Bernie IS DEFINITELY ANGELIC:

Which candidate voted with ALL the Republicans AND AGAINST OBAMA in support of cluster bombs?

Which candidate has HENRY KISSINGER as a mentor for foreign policy advice?

Which candidate, having Henry Kissinger as a mentor, took actions in favor of the overthrow of the democratically elected president of Honduras?

Which candidate sought to export FRACKING (GLOBAL WARMING INDUCING FRACKING) to Europe?

Which candidate voted to give George W. Bush the right to invade Iraq? REPEAT: GEORGE W. BUSH!!

Which candidate calls 78 million Iranians "enemies"?

Which candidate WILL REFUSE TO BREAK UP THE TOO BIG TO FAIL BANKS SINCE THEY ARE THE ONES PAYING HER OFF?

Which candidate was firmly against GAY MARRIAGE for years, and only changed her position when she thought it might cost her the presidency?

Which candidate LIES WITH A FREQUENCY THAT WOULD MAKE RICHARD NIXON PROUD?

Which candidate actually voted with the Republicans for the Patriot Act, and which candidate voted against the Patriot Act?

Which candidate sat on the WalMart Board of Directors and DID NOTHING TO PROMOTE UNIONIZATION WITHIN THAT COMPANY FOR SIX LONG YEARS? Indeed, actually praised the company & had stock in the company!!!

Which candidate declared that Republican John McCain had more relevant experience than did Democrat Barack Obama?

Which candidate was a "Goldwater Girl" as a teenager, THEN AS AN ADULT DECADES LATER DECLARES SHE WAS "PROUD TO HAVE BEEN A GOLDWATER GIRL"? (NOT ASHAMED, MIND YOU, BUT PROUD, GOLDWATER HAVING STRONGLY OPPOSED CIVIL RIGHTS LEGISLATION). Do we need a reminder of Bernie's actions during the 1960s Civil Rights Era for comparison?

So then, we can let Bernie keep his halo, okay?

[Sheepshank]

80. Remember all those adoration pamphlets with the bold and numerous caps throughout.

Those pamphlets where the caps almost outnumber the regular text because EVERYTHING they have to say is important? Those pamphlets that one ignores anyway? Yeah, that.

[Herman4747]

94. "Those pamphlets were the caps"??? n/t

[Sheepshank]

95. Those pamphlets where the caps.... Typo fixed

[beachbum bob]

26. obvious that sanders appeal is lessening as I see the tone in almost all the online blogs

concerning the lost of faith in sanders and his ability to accept his lost....much disappointment now that he allows his ego to over doing the right thing.....and many are seeing this as splintering the democrats for an easy trump victory.....which may have been sanders intention all the time

[Surya Gayatri]

27. ^^^This!^^^

"...much disappointment now that he allows his ego over doing the right thing".

[haikugal]

31. That's because they're in the bag and Clinton is propelling the propaganda using Brock and her

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machine. It's like the runup to Iraq in every way.

[MaeScott]

50. Brockettes tap dancing in rhythm , don't you know

[Gothmog]

28. Sanders is lying about a contested convention to keep the small dollar donations flowing

I am sad to see Sanders continue to lie about his chances of being the nominee

[Surya Gayatri]

29. Sad, cringe-making devolution and decline of a once worthy and uplifting campaign.

[haikugal]

30. Moulitsas? Another smear using weasel words...

progressive halo
warm, fuzzy sentiment
angelic protections

When did Sanders get a fair hearing with the MSM? I must have missed it.

Where's the beef?

This is more fluff trying to pass itself off as journalism. Oh Talkingpoints Memo...another in the bag commenter who brings little but partisan opinion.

What a cheap hit piece written by third way democrats calling themselves progressive voices. As if!!!

[B Calm]

32. ^^^This!^^^

+1

[Surya Gayatri]

33. Moulitsas was not the author.

By Bill Scher

May 23, 2016

[B Calm]

35. So you admit that you didn't give credit to the author in the OP.

[Surya Gayatri]

36. The POLITICO link is at the bottom of the OP. AFAIK, it is NOT

required to include the author's exact name as long as the source is credited.

Moulitsas is mentioned, but is NOT the author.

[Hekate]

40. So you admit that you didn't read it closely?

JURY: The phrase "So you admit that" is borrowed directly from the poster to whom I am responding.

[B Calm]

42. So who alerted?

[Hekate]

116. That's my normal PS to our esteemed Jurors in case they are called upon

It has clarified many a misunderstanding of the meaning of my words.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

113. marcos even said dailykos would be all hillary after the first super tuesday

Same as was announced here...

[Hekate]

37. KnR. But he still has the birdie, right?

[Surya Gayatri]

39. The BIRD still believes! LOL!

[hobbit709]

43. Halo must be the word for the day.

[Surya Gayatri]

46. Oh, "Bernie Worship" has been a meme on DU for some time.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511591182

"You inspire us Sen. Sanders, to be better. We are more beautiful than we were and we're grateful for your leadership in making that happen. Let us be the wind beneath your wings!"
...

"I get goose bumps just looking at you. I try to watch every rally. I feel driven by your words. You are Astonishingly pure in your motives. Your peace is felt across the world. We will not give up. We will rise to do what's right."
...

"If I knew anything about sculpture, I would chisel a cliff with your likeness and call it a national monument. I could go on and on... But I'll stop here. Just, thank you, forever and ever."
...

If all of that hagiography isn't a figurative "halo", I don't know what is.

[hobbit709]

47. Like "She's the one" and "It's her turn"

[Surya Gayatri]

49. I have yet to see this sort of unhinged hagiographic worship for Sec. Clinton.

[B Calm]

51. Maybe, because she stinks?

[Surya Gayatri]

68. Odor has been proven to be very subjective. Check your nasal passages.

[B Calm]

70. Thanks to my allergy relief tablets, my nasal passages are open.

She stinks!

[Surya Gayatri]

73. Smell disorder facts* - FYI. Might want to have that checked out.

Smell disorder facts*

*Smell disorder facts by John P. Cunha, DO, FACOEP

People who experience smell disorders experience either a loss in their ability to smell or changes in the way they perceive odors.
Hyposmia is when the ability to detect odor is reduced. Anosmia is when a person can't detect odor at all. Some people experience change in the perception of odors, or notice that familiar odors become distorted, or may perceive a smell that isn't present at all.
Smell disorders have many causes including illness such as upper respiratory infection, injury, polyps in the nasal cavities, sinus infections, hormonal disturbances, dental problems, exposure to certain chemicals such as insecticides and solvents, some medicines, and radiation due to head and neck cancers.
Obesity, diabetes, hypertension, malnutrition, Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's disease, multiple sclerosis, and Korsakoff's psychosis are all accompanied or signaled by chemosensory problems like smell disorders.
There is no specific treatment for smell disorders. If the cause is due to medication, adjusting or changing the drug may relieve symptoms. If an underlying illness causes the smell disorder, when that illness resolves or is treated the sense of smell usually returns. Surgery can remove nasal polyps.

Every year, thousands of people develop problems with their sense of smell. In fact, more than 200,000 people visit a physician each year for help with smell disorders or related problems. If you experience a problem with your sense of smell, call your doctor. This fact sheet explains smell and smell disorders.

Many people who have smell disorders also notice problems with their sense of taste. Continue Reading

http://www.medicinenet.com/smell_disorders/article.htm
__________________________

You're welcome. Glad I could be of help.

[B Calm]

120. With Hillary's unfavorability ratings looking the same asTrumps, she STINKS!

[hobbit709]

52. Try your protected group and hillaryclintonsupporters.com

Or even 90% in GD-P by your fellow supporters including you.

But then facts never penetrate the wall at Camp Bansalot.

Goodbye, I'm not giving singing lessons

[Surya Gayatri]

62. Point me to where somebody talks of carving her effigy into a mountainside...

or of getting goosebumps just seeing her.



No, in general, Hillary people tend to be of the reality-based persuasion. Unhinged hagiography isn't really their forté.

[TwilightZone]

57. It's a Politico article, not from the Clinton camp.

Your knee is jerking in the wrong direction.

[riversedge]

45. “The 'burn it down' attitude, the upping the ante…seems to be coming from Sanders himself.”

Yes, it is


TWEET

Top news story
Russell Drew ‏@RussOnPolitics 59m59 minutes ago

Bernie Loses His Halo - “The 'burn it down' attitude, the upping the ante…seems to be coming from Sanders himself.”

[Surya Gayatri]

48. For better or worse, a campaign's tenor is always the responsibility of the candidate.

[tonyt53]

55. It sure is!

[Demsrule86]

65. It is him

That was clearly demonstrated on the Sunday shows.

[Eric J in MN]

53. Kos and Josh Marshall never endorsed Bernie Sanders

...and both have insulted him before the past week.

[Surya Gayatri]

59. The author of this piece is Politico's Bill Scher, May 23, 2016.

[Demsrule86]

67. Bernie supporters

prefer Fox and of course Bernie's campaign manager agrees with Trump's attacks on Hillary as does Bernie obviously.

[Surya Gayatri]

72. Yes, sadly (but not surprisingly), Fox, RedState, Daily Caller, Breitbart

and other much less reputable RW vomit-bags seem to be their go-to sources these days.

Go figure!

[Demsrule86]

87. IF it looks like a duck

and walks like a duck? I honestly see little difference in their invective and Trumps.

[Surya Gayatri]

99. The growing mind-meld between the two campaigns is disquieting, to say the least.

[Eric J in MN]

69. I know. Bill Scher's piece is about negativity

...towards Sanders from Kos and Josh Marshall, who never endorsed Sanders.

[kstewart33]

56. K & R. nt

[stonecutter357]

58. Bernie Loses His Halo.

[pmorlan1]

60. Amazing to Behold

So much love and kindness from the Hillary supporters in this thread. Amazing.

[Demsrule86]

61. After seeing

Bernie on the Sunday shows...I literally became enraged. How dare he? He attacked Hillary and talked of overturning the primary vote. He said Hillary was one of the 'lesser of two evils '. I went on some sites afterward to vent...I was upstairs and don't have Dem underground on my tablet... so from Huff to talking points memo...the Bernie attacks were now brutal. As someone said if they checked on Bernie's Favorability now , it might be lower than Trump. I think his behavior will hurt him in the remaining states including California.And I awake to find out that Bernie's campaign manager says Trump is truthful in his attacks on Clinton...thanks for nothing Bern...

[Surya Gayatri]

66. "I think his behavior will hurt him in the remaining states including California."

From your keyboard to the Universe's ear.

[ThePhilosopher04]

71. No real progressives are criticizing Bernie. Just the fake ones.

[Surya Gayatri]

74. And, you are, of course, the ultimate arbiter of that determination.

[ThePhilosopher04]

100. Common sense is the arbiter. Real progressives agree with Bernie.

[Surya Gayatri]

107. Not very common in your particular case...

[ThePhilosopher04]

108. Of course it is. You know I'm right.

[Demsrule86]

89. Bern has done major damage

to the movement if he helps Trump get elected...and since the campaign manager agrees with Trump...Bernie will go down as the worst disaster to hit liberalism in more than a decade.

[wildeyed]

93. And now the philosopher spouts ALL the logical fallacies.

It is opposites day in GDP again and no one told me Crap. Tomorrow can we do crazy hats? But I guess we wait until the convention for that

[ThePhilosopher04]

102. You meant to say logical truths.

[wildeyed]

121. No If I had meant to say that, I would have.

[ThePhilosopher04]

123. Obviously not.

[wildeyed]

125. mirror

[2banon]

76. Garbage dump with this op.

the stench is reeking through the cyber space..

[Surya Gayatri]

77. Might want to have that checked out. Could spell trouble.

*Smell disorder facts by John P. Cunha, DO, FACOEP

Smell disorders have many causes including illness such as upper respiratory infection, injury, polyps in the nasal cavities, sinus infections, hormonal disturbances, dental problems, exposure to certain chemicals such as insecticides and solvents, some medicines, and radiation due to head and neck cancers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2034128

[Larkspur]

79. Bernie never admitted to having a halo. HRC minions put one there to trash Bernie. n/t

[Surya Gayatri]

82. Oh, reeeeeally? It's his acolytes here on DU who have elevated him to holy heights. LOL!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512033177#post46

"You inspire us Sen. Sanders, to be better. We are more beautiful than we were and we're grateful for your leadership in making that happen. Let us be the wind beneath your wings!"
...

"I get goose bumps just looking at you. I try to watch every rally. I feel driven by your words. You are Astonishingly pure in your motives. Your peace is felt across the world. We will not give up. We will rise to do what's right."
...

"If I knew anything about sculpture, I would chisel a cliff with your likeness and call it a national monument. I could go on and on... But I'll stop here. Just, thank you, forever and ever."
...

[Larkspur]

91. And I know of HRC supporters who are desperate for HRC to become president so that they can see a

female president before they die. They don't care that she is a military hawk, supports free trade deals and was supporting fracking around the world. They only care about seeing a women become president before they die.

Every candidate has fanatics. That does not mean every supporter places a halo over their candidate.

[Sheepshank]

84. yep...his followers put one there with some regularity

and it came across as a big fat joke.

you don't remember those BS supporters trying to draw a correlation between the Jew who was a carpenter and who promoted social justice and hated the money changers, and Christ?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

81. Poor Hillary.

[Surya Gayatri]

83. Thanks for the kick!

[ancianita]

86. He's insisting on integrity -- to finish the work of democratic voting that he started. Respect.

[Sheepshank]

88. There clearly was a time that I would proclaim how lucky the Dems were to have two awesome choices

and that while I leaned Hillary, would have been happy to have Bernie get my vote in the GE.

I have developed a disgust no only for Bernie, but his fanatical following that leads me to not walk, but run fast from that type of adoration and excessive bullying, and boorish behaviors that are not just tolerated, but excused away and encouraged.

[Larkspur]

92. And I have the opposite view

The more I see HRC and listen to her followers, the more disgust I have for HRC and her supporters.

[Surya Gayatri]

97. So well stated, especially this:

"...how lucky the Dems were to have two awesome choices...
and that while I leaned Hillary, would have been happy to have Bernie get my vote in the GE."

Exactly my trajectory up until February.

[Else You Are Mad]

96. If this is going to be the new Monday Attack Bernie Meme...

If this makes Bernie 'lose his halo' then, without a doubt, Hillary lost hers in 08 for what she did to Obama and never regained it as SoS and now the Democrat front runner.

[wildeyed]

101. She never had one.

Neither did he. They are both POLITICIANS who, at the end of the day, will do what they need to do to get the votes. It is the nature of the game. Don't blame the players for following the rules.

Bernie Sanders is learning about that right now. He could play high and mighty when he didn't have to work hard for the votes, but now he is on the big stage and learning what happens in a hard-fought election. He is no idealist anymore. He is playing politics, just like the rest of them now.

[Else You Are Mad]

103. Bingo.

[wildeyed]

98. His brand was the non-politician with the unchanging ideals.

Look at him now

[Surya Gayatri]

106. How the mighty have fallen...

[samsingh]

104. kick

[Smarmie Doofus]

105. >>>"Even progressives are criticizing him now after he’s shown a harder edge.">>>

Interesting acknowledgement that .... up until *now*.... it's been NON-progressives who've been doing the Bernie Bashing.

He said it; I didn't.

It's ok; no one was buying that "progressive Clinton" crap anyway.

[My Good Babushka]

109. Are there any people left who think politicians are good people?

You'd have to look far and wide to find a more greedy, self-dealing pack of jackals such that couldn't be trusted as far as they were thrown. We should all keep our skepticism and critical thinking skills about every politician.

[Surya Gayatri]

110. MGB, you said a passel of truth there. But, as a general rule,

Dems tend to be a tad less compromised than the rotten Repubs.

[Beacool]

111. Moulitsas is not the first one to say it.

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“The problem isn't Bernie Sanders' supporters,” Moulitsas wrote. “It's Bernie Sanders himself … [He] refuses to forcefully and unambiguously reject that violence, instead rationalizing and explaining it away with a mix of grievances and outright conspiracy theory.”

Other liberals have already said basically the same thing. That the problem is not his supporters, but Sanders himself. He keeps inciting his supporters by constantly mentioning that the primary process is rigged against him. This is the same process that was in place when Obama was nominated. Although Obama's advantage in both pledged delegates and the popular vote were razor thin, Hillary never claimed that the system was rigged against her. Instead, she graciously released her delegates at the convention. Hillary's lead is insurmountable, but I doubt that Sanders will be as gracious as she was in 2008. He seems intent on causing strife at the convention, further dividing the Democratic party and indirectly helping Trump.

Disgusting behavior..........

[Surya Gayatri]

112. Thoroughly despicable behavior. He's losing more credibility every

time he whines his way through another interview or stump speech.

[floppyboo]

115. The OP's propoganda misses the mark for one key reason the 'team' just can't get -

Bernie Sanders' campaign is 'not all about him'. They keep trying that one, and it is a serious fail, just exposing all the attitude that Bernie fans are not all about at all!

Personal attacks aren't going to work. Period. The more they try, the more they alienate. And the more Hillary's approval ratings among democrats will continue to slide - and NOT grow, while Trump seems to be doing just peachy on the unifying front.

[aikoaiko]

117. Bernie isnt being a good little liberal and I say, 'good for him.'

He isn't trying to make HRC supporters happy.

He's always been clear that any of the Democratic candidates were better than the Republican options.

[anotherproletariat]

118. This totally represents the reality I have seen. Many people, both Sanders supporters and not

in my circle (mostly fellow college students) have had quite an evolution of feelings towards Sanders...all of it in the negative direction. Those that are still very hard-core ]Berners' admit to the major driving force being an anti-Hillary one, not a pro-Sanders or his ideals.

[floppyboo]

122. so you won't have to hold your nose so much?

Curious what happened. Did you change your ideals/preference of policy, or did you get ground down? If the latter, you should read up on more propaganda history. That'll put the fire back under your butt!
Go Bernie!

[anotherproletariat]

126. He needs to spend some of that last 5 Million on an image person. Every time he's been shown in the

past 2 weeks he is red and scolding people in a loud monotone. It seems like that would turn people off.

[Karma13612]

133. Thumbs down -100 eom

[Rosa Luxemburg]

134. whqt's with all this halo, angels and warm and fuzzy rubbish

The media need to get a life

[Gothmog]

136. Sanders is showing that he has poor judgement

[eridani]

139. Like not voting for the Iraq war nt/t

[aikoaiko]

140. Pragmatists hate it when a liberal keeps fighting for liberal causes.

These "critiques" of Bernie are just HRC supporters trying make Bernie into a sheepdog and herd his supporters.

[BootinUp]

143. K & R