I heard something on Morning Joe that, really, was/is spot on, regarding ...

[1StrongBlackMan]

the polling of the question of whether there should be a 3rd party ... On of the talking heads said (something to the effect of) that answering that question is a lot like whether we should exercise more ... the answer willing likely be "Yes"; but, so what? One's answer is unlikely to change how one acts.

[tonyt53]

1. Morning Joe. The first supposed news venue to go easy on Trump and not ask "hard questions"

Trump requested that and the mic caught it, and Joe complied.

[1StrongBlackMan]

2. Yes. I know. Morning Joe did/is doing a masterful job at propping up a "Zero" of a candidate ...

while, promoting the both Parties are the same (while different) and the Sanders and trump supporters have the same concerns (while different) and the possibility of a 3rd-party run by ... somebody ... anybody ... that will keep the race "interesting" (read: the public's eyes glued on their commentary ... read: revenue generation).

[Iliyah]

3. Gary Johnson is running . . . .

[rurallib]

4. Yep - just going to say there is a 3rd Party - the Libertarians

If you have any republican acquaintances remind them of the Libertarians.
Got to think Libertarians would only gnaw into any Trump potential voters -
like to think they wouldn't take anything from any democrat

[1StrongBlackMan]

6. And some of HRC's support ...

the are a bunch of working class white folks (i.e., Bernie supporters) that want to smoke weed, unmolested.

[Armstead]

9. Those scuzzy working class white folks

Great way to promote unity

[1StrongBlackMan]

10. Breathe, Armstead. Breathe.

[Armstead]

13. I'm totally relaxed...Just tired of this demographic characterizing of everything in this election

And this stuff about about bad Bernie is because a majority of his supporters are white...It's not reverse racism....Just another form of racism....Including from all these white folks criticizing white folks in stereotypical terms -- with less than sincere motives.

Call me old-fashioned but I kinda thought the Big Tent for shared interests was supposed to be the liberal/progressive a goal, not exploiting differences among demographic niches (as the GOP has done so successfully to divide and conquer all these years).

[1StrongBlackMan]

16. It has been said (seemingly) a million times that this ...

And this stuff about about bad Bernie is because a majority of his supporters are white...

Has never been said. And, when you (and others) have been asked to put up a link to anyone, anywhere, saying anything approaching that ... the best you can do is to post a comment of a Sanders supporter saying that they have "interpreted" the "insinuating" "dog whistles."

But more to the point ... Are you saying there are NOT working class white folks that are attracted to the libertarian party because of the libertarians party's position on personal freedom, I.e., smoking dope, unmolested?r

[Armstead]

20. Sure, most Liibertarian Party supporters are white people

But that's a matter of their history and economic philosophy, and the kind of cracker mentality it attracts.

However, the philosophy of personal freedom is not a racial thing, and not even an ideological thing. Just depends on what aspect of life is referring to.

And, even though many in the the Libertarian Party support the idea of being allowed to smoke dope unmolested, there are many AA's who also do -- and social justice advocates who object to the draconian drug laws impacts, especially on POC and the ridiculously high incarceration rates that result

I haven't the time or inclination of ferreting through all of the posts on DU -- or their counterparts in the real world -- but the "white support" of Bernie is a constant theme here, and not used in a positive sense.

[1StrongBlackMan]

21. I haven't the time or inclination to take issue with either of your points ...

So, I'll just say, "Okay".

[morningfog]

17. A lot of Bernie supporters, of various races, want to ensure that not one is molested for smoking

weed. Especially people of color, who are disproportionately molested.

[1StrongBlackMan]

19. Touch'e; but, I suspect few of them will be voting libertarian ...

Well ... maybe.

[NorthCarolina]

5. Given that both Clinton and Trump have upside down favorability ratings,

it does seem to make sense that this would be a good opportunity for a third-party to make some hay while the sun shines. The reason that polls consistently show Hillary tied or losing to Trump, while Sanders repeatedly bests Trump easily is "Independents".

Independents despise the Clinton's, and they don't really like Trump either (obviously as polls suggest), but they DO like Bernie. This fact is clearly obvious from poll after poll that keeps reaffirming the same thing, that Bernie is the only chance Democrats have to win the election.

Hillary will not be 45, Independents will simply not turn out for her, and the number of registered hard-core conservative Democrats she commands are simply insufficient to win in the GE.

[bettyellen]

7. the dirty secret is that every candidates "unfavorables" rise dramatically when they become a

serious contender. We tend to hate successful politicians. It is strange, but true.

[Armstead]

11. Not always

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating

Obama - May 25 2008 -- 55 Favorable 36.9 Unfavorable

Clinton - Current -- 41.2 Favorable 55.2 Unfavorable

[bettyellen]

12. May is kind of early, I believe they rose quite a bit....

[Armstead]

14. Nope -- Just the opposite

His Favorables continued to rise through the primaries and the election

Oct 23 2008 Obama - Fav 59 % UnFav 39%

[1StrongBlackMan]

18. Perhaps, you should ask the above poster, what commonalities ...

May 2008 Candidate Obama and May 2016 Candidate Sanders share that Candidate HRC, did/doesn't. It goes a long way towards explaining what's driving favorabilities/negatives?

Hint: Very few negative campaigns from the gop.

[bettyellen]

22. Oh, we all know Sanders has not been vetted by the GOP yet. One attack ad run by MOM does not

cut it. They deflect to the pedantic parsing, always. Snore....

[NorthCarolina]

23. To many of the disinheartened, Trump will be viewed as different, or

for better or worse, "Change". On the other hand, the country simply has Clinton BURNOUT. They're sick of the scandals and nefarious activities that, for better or worse, seem to go hand-in-hand with anything "Clinton". Trump will continue to rise in the polls as polling trends suggest, while Hillary continues to lose ground.

If the establishment is successful in banishing Bernie, then you best get used to the term President Trump. Hillary will not be 45 by any stretch of the imagination...the writing is in the polling trends.

[bettyellen]

24. I think too many people let the RW media brainwash them with fake scandals..... but it is a smaller

group than you think. Trump is relatively unknown, and the campaign against him has really just started. The man writes his own negative ads and too many women and POC - reliable voters all- will hate him. He will not be the next president. Nope.

[NorthCarolina]

25. Being a relative "unknown" as you put it

will be his single greatest advantage in this election. It wouldn't bode well for Hillary camp to go about touting how he's an "unknown" because that will backfire in their faces.

[bettyellen]

29. Trump is odd because he has huge and positive name recognition with many- but they will learn who he

is soon. Why would they tout how "unknown" he is? They plan to make him known, and it is not going to be pretty.
No one is touting that except an analyst looking at polls done so far. Most people have NO IDEA what an ass he is....yet.

[BootinUp]

8. There are plenty of Indys that are against the left, most lean conservative

Bernie has been treated nice by the right and that has benefited him in polls so far. Also demographically he catches some. But in the final analysis the Obama coalition will hold and win.

[Surya Gayatri]

15. Definitely a historical bias against 3rd parties, not to mention

a systemic obstruction posed by the crazy Electoral College.

Totally undemocratic anachronism that should be amended out of the Constitution.

[bravenak]

26. Wanting is easy. Doing takes real work. We both know that aint happnin.

[rbrnmw]

30. OMG You're back

[bravenak]

31. Oh hell to the no!

Did I post in gdpee? Uh oh.

[rbrnmw]

32. yes you did

[Renew Deal]

27. People always want more options

That's just natural.

[Thinkingabout]

28. All of this and Sanders nor Trump has a foreign policy and it would seem they would have tried

To develop one after a year. We had enough of an incompetent president with George W, that is enough in my lifetime.