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LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:19 PM May 2016

Election Officials Tossed 90,000 Affidavit Ballots From Last Month's Primary

Gothamist

Another line of reasoning Ryan pursued with the Indypendent is that the main source of sustained discontent over the handling of the election is voters upset with New York's closed primary set-up.

"We were warned in advance that there were folks out there that don’t like the New York primary system, and were going to advance a narrative," he said. "And they were well in the process of advancing that narrative and trying to make their pitch for why the process should be open primary like other states and not a closed primary."

Again, there is a kernel of truth to this, in that the afternoon before the primary, activists sued over the registration irregularities and encouraged those with registration problems to vote with an affidavit ballot in hopes that a judge would order a meticulous accounting, or even an open primary. Those activists even encouraged independents to vote, starting that evening before the primary. And at meetings the month before the primary, Ryan and commissioners anticipated an influx of voters unfamiliar with New York's closed primary system and voted to order extra affidavit ballots. That said, the majority of people we talked to about their registration problems are not disgruntled independents trying to make a point.


Angelica Thornhill, whose voting travails Gothamist chronicled on Primary Day, told commissioners last Tuesday, "The problem we have is, under the circumstances you're talking about...[when people] show up and they're not in the books, obviously you guys need to check and see they're registered in the city. But what happened this primary election is...[[registrations] were changed. My sister was listed as inactive and she's lived here five years. I was switched to no party and I called a month ahead of time and was told I was registered Democrat."

Thornhill obtained a court order on the day of the election to allow her to vote, but the board made a point of pulling her file and stating that she had checked "I do not wish to enroll in a party" on a DMV form, thus pulling her out of the Democratic Party.
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Election Officials Tossed 90,000 Affidavit Ballots From Last Month's Primary (Original Post) LiberalFighter May 2016 OP
so the system worked hill2016 May 2016 #1
The system worked??? Can you read? floriduck May 2016 #2
yeah well hill2016 May 2016 #4
That is a typical "I have mine." response; indicative of Clinton supporters. floriduck May 2016 #6
Yep. vintx May 2016 #12
it's more hill2016 May 2016 #15
indifference, apathy or antipathy? reddread May 2016 #20
Try doing things in a timely manner Demsrule86 May 2016 #19
You've got yours too, huh? I'm so happy for you. floriduck May 2016 #21
Yeah well.. NWCorona May 2016 #7
According to the article, she checked a box a DMV form stating she didn't want to enroll in party KingFlorez May 2016 #9
Yep! LiberalFighter May 2016 #10
You got that wrong. elleng May 2016 #5
Ha! Interesting. I just scrolled to the last part and saw the DMV comment, which had R B Garr May 2016 #3
"How do we account for the 90,000 discarded ballots, then? The BOE has not responded to questions" think May 2016 #8
People are actually cheering for disenfranchisement vintx May 2016 #13
Notice how the entire conversation is directed away from that? silvershadow May 2016 #17
BRAVO, NEw York, BRAVO! MohRokTah May 2016 #11
What century is this? Skink May 2016 #14
TPTB are training poll workers in Calif to give NPP voters a provisional ballot - AtomicKitten May 2016 #16
KNR Lucinda May 2016 #18
 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
2. The system worked??? Can you read?
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:25 PM
May 2016

"I was switched to no party and I called a month ahead of time and was told I was registered Democrat."

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
19. Try doing things in a timely manner
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:07 PM
May 2016

Try living in Ohio with a governor who is working really hard to steal the election by getting rid of the Dem vote...I could not care less about Bern or a primary he lost.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
9. According to the article, she checked a box a DMV form stating she didn't want to enroll in party
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:44 PM
May 2016

That would qualify as switching your affiliation voluntarily. The idea that someone else switched her registration is disproved by the DMV form.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
3. Ha! Interesting. I just scrolled to the last part and saw the DMV comment, which had
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:27 PM
May 2016

to be our experience, too. My husband got a couple change of address forms from the Registrar's office this year, but I didn't receive any, and we've obviously lived in the same addresses. When we went in to talk to them, the Orange County Registrar's office said they got a "third party" notification about an address change, and we figured it came from the DMV based on what they said, although we didn't change addresses with the DMV. Maybe any contact with the DMV is sent directly to the Registrar's through their connected systems. I didn't get those notices, but I also didn't have to renew my license.

Great find! Thanks for posting. I'm still finding it curious why so many here are blaming the Democratic official for this and are just sure it wasn't the Republican (for whatever conspiracy there is about New York now). Weird!

 

think

(11,641 posts)
8. "How do we account for the 90,000 discarded ballots, then? The BOE has not responded to questions"
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016

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Skink

(10,122 posts)
14. What century is this?
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:21 PM
May 2016

For the GE let it be known that you must bring the Deed to youe estate and Thou must be listed as head of Household in order to cast a ballot.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
16. TPTB are training poll workers in Calif to give NPP voters a provisional ballot -
Mon May 23, 2016, 03:54 PM
May 2016

- instead of allowing them to choose a party ballot which they are entitled to. This, of course, is voter suppression because provisional/affidavit ballots are almost always thrown out. Apparently the concept of free and fair elections has become quaint to a good chunk of the Democratic Party who are fine with the manipulation of the vote from within to benefit one candidate. Hillary yet again is running against her opponent as if she were the Republican and her opponent (Obama first, now Sanders) the Democrat.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/19/1528510/-California-poll-workers-incorrectly-instructed-to-issue-provisional-ballots-to-all-NPP-voters

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