CNN breaking news: Terry McAuliffe under FBI INVESTIGATION

[grasswire]

For campaign donations and ties to Clinton Foundation

Few details yet.

[onehandle]

1. You seem excited. nt

[grasswire]

3. I'm a news junky. So what?

Thanks for the kick.

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. My, my how can you tell emotion from a text message?

[AgingAmerican]

62. You seem nervous

[cui bono]

85. You must be. You posted an OP about it 2 minutes after this post.

.

[Fawke Em]

87. Why shouldn't we be?

He's another fake Democrat who belongs in the old Republican Party.

[scscholar]

94. And being excited about yet another Republican-created...

fake scandal is disgusting.

[senz]

106. Are the Clintons themselves a Republican creation?

Surely they act on their own. Surely they do.

[grasswire]

2. donations TO HIS campaign

Something to do with a Chinese businessman who also donated to Clinton Foundation?

We need details.

[One Black Sheep]

4. The start of the unraveling?

This is why Sanders is so smart to stay in the race, he can replace Hillary.

[anotherproletariat]

37. The Democratic party has come to loath Sanders. They will never let a non-party member

get the nomination. Particularly him.

[RobertEarl]

43. False

The Democratic party embraces Bernie. It is just the hierarchy of the party that Bernie makes pee their pants in fear.

[cali]

51. Damn autocorrect. I think you meant embraces.

[mindwalker_i]

59. Well, the democratic party embarasses me

[rjsquirrel]

154. Yes that explains his huge lead

in the primary popular vote and delegate count.

[One Black Sheep]

47. The Democratic party won't have a choice, in a scenario where Hillary has to drop out

in that case, either Bernie is the nominee, or they can basically commit party suicide by denying Bernie the nomination.

[RobertEarl]

64. The party won't

Hillary is about to drop and the party knows it. That's why they have super delegates. To solve issues like the coming H issue.

The convention is going to become one big happy family in complete support of our nominee, Bernie Sanders.

[senz]

92. I dearly hope that things work out for the best

by which I mean a return to openness, fairness, and democracy within the Democratic Party. But it's probably going to be a long time before we (or they) become one big happy family. Like most abducted, imprisoned and subjugated victim groups, they will need a long period of healing before recovery can take place.

Or maybe they'll just pick up the pieces and continue along as a closed, insulated, elitist little power center until eventually thinning out and dissipating due to irrelevance.

[RobertEarl]

98. Bernie is the only way it happens

The third way of the Clintons, exposed and defeated by Obama in 2008, is doomed to failure.

Bernie is the only one demanding openness, fairness and real democracy.

[Reiyuki]

137. Yep, you're on to something

National polling's going to be the key indicator over the next month.

And at this rate, it wouldn't be surprising to see her down 10+ points against Trump by the conventions. DNC establishment might rethink their support, since a nomination would be close to political suicide.


At that point, if the establishment doesn't want Hillary, it's easy:
The delegates can vote to reinstate the original 1800's rule that required 2/3 majority to claim victory at a convention, then 2nd ballot they can pick whoever they want.


The recent feud between Elizabeth Warren and Trump suggests to me she might be the backup 'compromise candidate. But again, at that point it could be pretty much anyone, Sanders included.

[RobertEarl]

139. I have faith in the party

Look at how well Bernie has done!

Against all odds, against the media, the establishment, and against the most famous woman in the world, Bernie is on the cusp of being nominated. He has the momentum, he has our grassroot support and he has just enough time.

[senz]

147. Interesting, Reiyuki.

Elizabeth Warren would be my second choice to Bernie Sanders, and the Trump/Warren feud could easily be party generated, but unless she is far more malleable than she lets on, how likely is it that the establishment would find her much more palatable than Bernie? Unless perhaps they're thinking of Biden/Warren? In that case, it would a demotion -- in terms of effectiveness -- for Warren and therefore a loss to progressives. And of course it would be a terrible ripoff of a good, noble, amazingly dedicated and hard-working person who would make an outstanding president. But I understand that politics is rarely fair.

It is an interesting scenario.

[Reiyuki]

156. ya, there's tons of ways it can play out

I have no idea how it will *actually* play out, I just know that there's got to be other analysis considering the same potential 'backup plans'.

I think Warren-Sanders is a bit more likely (all that 'first woman president' benefit of Clinton with none of the baggage), but I don't think the establishment would agree to that unless they were forced into it and/or got to choose the cabinet for them. Maybe they're thinking Boxer or Biden? dunno, it could be anyone.


At the very least, there's be a strong motivation to keep Sanders high on the ticket (P or VP) since it would cost a lot of votes to do otherwise.

[Eleanors38]

50. Your thinking of the Beltway. Correct, now.

[elleng]

57. the 'establishment,' part of the dem ptb, yes,

and they/it has scooped up a lot of 'members,' unfortunately. That's why we see so much anti-Sanders blather at DU, where Dems SHOULD discuss the MERITS. Instead:

[senz]

70. Speak for yourself

oh, wait, you did.

[AgingAmerican]

65. That started when Bernie announced he was running

This is just the latest acceleration of it

[dchill]

5. (!)

* sarcastic exclamation point *
Not surprised.

[Txbluedog]

6. Where are you seeing this

I don't see it on Cnn

[grasswire]

8. It was a breaking news segment on TV..

....about five minutes ago. Very brief.

[Paper Roses]

131. Go grasswire, keep us posted. My charming cable provider does not mention it.

Of course, if you have Comcast, you know why.

[grasswire]

132. hi kiddo! nt

[Lochloosa]

12. Here you go

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/23/politics/terry-mcauliffe-fbi-doj-federal-investigation-campaign-contributions/

[Txbluedog]

16. Thanks

[Bye Bye Birdie]

7. The noose tightens....

I'm sure McAwful will want to squeal on Clinton to get out of this hole YET again.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

9. Link.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/23/politics/terry-mcauliffe-fbi-doj-federal-investigation-campaign-contributions/

There's no allegation that the foundation did anything improper; the probe has focused on McAuliffe and the electoral campaign donations, the officials said.

Spokespeople for the Justice Department and the FBI declined to comment.

Among the McAuliffe donations that drew the interest of the investigators was $120,000 from a Chinese businessman, Wang Wenliang, through his U.S. businesses. Wang was previously delegate to China's National People's Congress, the country's ceremonial legislature.

[still_one]

46. Don't ruin the dour ones day

[MADem]

74. Campaigns can make mistakes in the handling/processing of donations.

http://docquery.fec.gov/dcdev/fectxt/1071658.txt

[karynnj]

82. Shades of 1996 one might say

You might remember how that played in 2000 - remember Gore with donations accepted in the Buddhist temple.

[COLGATE4]

103. In addition, Wang is a U.S. Permanent Resident. As such he is not

prohibited from contributing to US campaigns.

[CanadaexPat]

144. Therefore, that's probably not what they're

looking at.

[pa28]

10. CNN just posted a story here:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/23/politics/terry-mcauliffe-fbi-doj-federal-investigation-campaign-contributions/

Virginia Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe is the subject of an ongoing investigation by the FBI and prosecutors from the Justice Department's public integrity unit, U.S. officials briefed on the probe say.

They don't specifically link it to the Clinton foundation they just say it's from that particular time period.

Influence peddling between the State Department and the Clinton Foundation is the one we'll be hearing all about in coming months and it looks like that story is already moving down the FBI slipway.

[grasswire]

13. yes

another rabbit trail to follow.

If he's in real jeopardy, he might provide evidence against Clintons/Foundation.

[Myrina]

163. DOJ has a 'public integrity unit' ?

Oh mercy, are they gonna be busy if HRC and her husband get back into the White House.

[KingFlorez]

11. And still, Bernie Sanders will never be President

What does this even have to do with the primary? You all are way off the rails.

[NWCorona]

17. The Clinton foundation maybe?

[KingFlorez]

18. It doesn't have anything to do with the primary

The article says that the investigation has nothing to do with the Clinton Foundation doing anything improper. Sit down.

[morningfog]

24. It references a candidate through her foundation.

It would be locked in GD. This is the appropriate place.

[COLGATE4]

108. No.It doesn't reference the candidate at all.

And her foundation is only mentioned tangentially - to say that

"There's no allegation that the foundation did anything improper; the probe has focused on McAuliffe and the electoral campaign donations, the officials said.t is not involved in this story"

[NWCorona]

29. That's why I said maybe. I'm dealing with what the op said I haven't even read that link.

Maybe you should have a seat.

[grasswire]

34. The first responders are pretty worked up. nt

[KingFlorez]

35. You didn't even read the article?

No, it's definitely you that needs to have several seats. You need an entire arena of seats.

[NWCorona]

52. That article was posted to this thread while I was posting to you.

I can see you are all in your emotions lol!

[grasswire]

22. the Foundation is mentioned.

But look at the last sentence:

It couldn't be learned what else the FBI and Justice Department are investigating as part of the probe in McAuliffe.

[COLGATE4]

104. From the same link:

"There's no allegation that the foundation did anything improper; the probe has focused on McAuliffe and the electoral campaign donations, the officials said."

Sorry to rain on your parade.

[NWCorona]

111. From CNN

"As part of the probe, the officials said, investigators have scrutinized McAuliffe's time as a board member of the Clinton Global Initiative, a vehicle of the charitable foundation set up by former President Bill Clinton."

[COLGATE4]

117. Yep. And they go on to say that there's no connection.

Fail.

[NWCorona]

125. How would they know what the FBI knows lol!?!

[COLGATE4]

126. Maybe you could ask them.

[senz]

143. As I explained to you upthread, "allegation" does not mean "connection."

Either read my other reply or look up the word "allegation."

[COLGATE4]

123. Read that in conjunction with the link I posted and see what you get.

[cali]

56. And that has jackshit to do with this, your highness.

[George II]

14. You should get the "details" before jumping to an anti-Hillary conclusion.

And Terry McAuliffe isn't running in the primaries, this OP should appear somewhere else.

[cui bono]

20. Not at all. The Clinton Foundation is tied to, wait for it...

a Clinton that is running for president in the Dem Primary!

.

[COLGATE4]

110. As the article says:

"There's no allegation that the foundation did anything improper; the probe has focused on McAuliffe and the electoral campaign donations, the officials said."

[HooptieWagon]

21. Ties to Clinton Foundation.

Last I checked, Clinton was still campaigning in the Primaries, so Clinton Foundation related news is appropriate for GD . So is FBI and DoJ news.

[George II]

71. With that logic I can post the minutes to the Chappaqua Town Council here, Clinton lives....

...in Chappaqua.

[grasswire]

25. McAuliffe has been mentioned as a possible VP candidate for HRC...

...and is often her surrogate.

[senz]

67. Bet she'll reconsider on that...

heh.

[George II]

68. STILL nothing to do with the primaries, VPs aren't chosen via primaries.

[One Black Sheep]

32. McAuliffe is well known as a Clinton insider

surprised if you don't know that.

McAuliffe has been tied to the Clintons for years, he is very close to them in the political aspect.

[AtomicKitten]

15. !!!

[grasswire]

19. the money quote at the bottom of the article

It couldn't be learned what else the FBI and Justice Department are investigating as part of the probe in McAuliffe.

[KingFlorez]

23. And that relates to the primary how?

You get into hyper Bernie Jesus mode over any little thing, so please calm down. That doesn't even remotely say anything about the primary.

[grasswire]

27. don't bother deflection

nt

[KingFlorez]

33. Do you even know what the word means?

You are trying to tie this into Clinton being investigated, but the article doesn't even say that, it's all about McAuliffe's campaign donations. The article even says that the Clinton Foundation isn't being accused of anything improper. Give it up.

[grasswire]

36. thanks for the kick nt

[KingFlorez]

40. Of course, everyone needs to see just what you are

Keep it up. On June 8th, it will all be over for all you all and Thank God for that.

[grasswire]

63. Keep pedaling....

...trying to censor news. It's the DNC way!

[cali]

39. It doesn't. It does relate to the general election

He's very closely tied to the Clntons and the optics suck.

And before you make the predictable false accusation, no, I'm definitely not happy about this.

[timmymoff]

54. Seems someone is hyper, but it isn't the OP

It's comical the way they rush to defend Her Corporate Majesty. let the next investigation with Clinton ties begin. Great! What a perfect candidate and fully vetted she is.

[timmymoff]

73. Who mentioned that?

Only you that I can see.

[senz]

133. Oh quit being so nervous.

[HooptieWagon]

31. They'll probably get her on the unsecured server,...

...as that's easily proven. But the bigger crime is the pay for play and money-laundering in the Foundation. That's the real cess pool of corruption and criminal activity.

[grasswire]

38. that has always been the thinking..

..that the Foundation is the honey pot.

Does this timing coincide with the other investigation? A year?

I guess we will find out eventually.

Drip, drip, drip.

[senz]

136. Yes, the Foundation may very well be the locus

of all that makes Clinton so unthinkable.

That alone would stick in my craw.

[Qutzupalotl]

42. one more quote:

But Wang holds U.S. permanent resident status, according to a spokeswoman, which would make him a U.S. person under election law and eligible to donate to McAuliffe's campaign.

If this is true, there would seem to be no basis for investigating McAuliffe, except for ties to the Clinton Foundation.

I thought McAuliffe was a lousy DNC chair, but he seemed to be a decent governor. Restoring voting rights for ex-convicts was a very positive move. Sorry to see him embroiled in this, if anything comes of it.

[grasswire]

55. this quote is what makes me think we are only seeing part of the story

And yes, that other part is the ties to the Clinton Foundation, and that is what the FBI was already investigating in other ways.

[COLGATE4]

116. You mean these ties?

"There's no allegation that the foundation did anything improper; the probe has focused on McAuliffe and the electoral campaign donations, the officials said."

[grasswire]

118. boiler plate

you know that

[COLGATE4]

121. What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Do you even

know what boilerplate is?

[senz]

140. "Allegation" does not mean "indication" or "possibility."

To make an allegation is to accuse, charge, claim. It is an adversarial stance. Of course they're not ready to do that: the investigation is not yet complete.

But the absence of an allegation does not mean the foundation has been absolved of wrong doing. It simply means the investigation has not reached the point of formal charges. And, of course, we do not know when, or if, it will.

[glinda]

157. Maybe the thousands not recorded in the Victory Fund transfers?

[grasswire]

158. hmmmm

lots of material for investigation

[cui bono]

26. Yikes!

Well, I'll just do this for now...



.

[RogerM]

28. Much Ado about nothing

As part of the probe, the officials said, investigators have scrutinized McAuliffe's time as a board member of the Clinton Global Initiative, a vehicle of the charitable foundation set up by former President Bill Clinton.

There's no allegation that the foundation did anything improper; the probe has focused on McAuliffe and the electoral campaign donations, the officials said.

[grasswire]

30. boiler plate.

But thanks for the kick.

[anigbrowl]

66. Your cognitive dissonance is hilarious

But I feel sorry for you in real life

[grasswire]

79. LOL

Sure.

[senz]

141. Now, now, don't be so angry.

Insults aren't helpful to your candidate.

[COLGATE4]

119. Boiler plate? Bullshit.

[grasswire]

120. shouldn't you be attending to some billable hours? nt

[COLGATE4]

122. No. For you, it's free.

[grasswire]

124. kewl

But sincerely, watch your blood pressure. Sincerely. Don't be mad.

[BootinUp]

41. Sensational for CNN anyways. nt

[hellofromreddit]

44. What, like a security review?

[Optimism]

45. It's all about the Foundation.

"Wang also has been a donor to the Clinton foundation, pledging $2 million."

How these Superdelegates justify continuing their support for Hillary is truly beyond me. Fear of the machine I guess.

So happy that Bernie is fearless in these matters. He will make a transformational President.

[HooptieWagon]

138. The SDs continue to support her because they're well-paid.

There's a huge amount of corporate money going into people's pockets. Sanders is going to upset the applecart...that's why he's so hated. An honest man behaving honestly sure makes the corrupt ones look bad.

[Eleanors38]

48. I saw you breathe!

😏

[Segami]

49. Hold on tight for the next turn and dip

[Beacool]

53. McAuliffe is doing a good job as governor of VA.

He's the only one that is preventing the barbarians from climbing over the wall in his state. It's pathetic how some of you are chortling with glee at the prospect of Terry being in trouble and maybe, perhaps, indirectly, keeping all fingers crossed, it could affect Hillary.

Disgusting behavior by the supporters of the man who is not going to be the nominee.

[grasswire]

69. Irrelevant and immaterial.

The FBI doesn't care what his job performance is. They don't do performance reviews, just like they don't do security reviews.

[Beacool]

72. Irrelevant and immaterial is what you posted on this board.

[grasswire]

77. it's going to be like this for you all for months..

....as the drips turn into trickles and the trickles turn into streams...

Might as well save your breath now.

[joshcryer]

113. Just another witch hunt against good Dems

[libdem4life]

60. He's a piece of crap joined at the.Clinton Hip

for decades. He's the embodiment of corruption.

[grasswire]

75. He was on the board of Clinton Global Initiative...

...and this investigation is related to that.

[TwilightZone]

91. In your rush to post, you must have missed this:

"There's no allegation that the foundation did anything improper; the probe has focused on McAuliffe and the electoral campaign donations, the officials said. "

Just because you repeat a lie a few times in one thread doesn't make it any more true. It just makes you look silly.

[grasswire]

95. read on

thanks for the kick

[tabasco]

76. Corrupt network of slush funds to be exposed.

The scuzzy Clintons worship money above all else.

[grasswire]

78. ...and regime change

But I guess that's basically about money, too.

[grasswire]

80. Evan Perez is the CNN reporter breaking the news.

Twitter has erupted.

Apparently one of McAuliffe's gubernatorial donors is Trump.

[Segami]

83. lol!

[cui bono]

86. omgz... can we just get rid of the whole corrupt clown show that's one big family and get the real

outsider in?

We know who that is and he is the ONLY one who will not be playing all these incestuous games.

.

[NWCorona]

102. It's a small circle

[senz]

148. Someone should do a network chart on Trump-Clinton connections.

Could be an eye opener.

[Enthusiast]

160. OMG! A bit of cross pollination. Somehow it doesn't surprise me.

[dragonfly301]

81. probably just an inquiry...n/t

[Skwmom]

84. Is there some game of chess going on?

[grasswire]

90. you mean like squeeze Terry?

Maybe.

Sometimes it takes squeezing to get the real juice.

[Warren DeMontague]

88. Wow, talk about inspiring confidence.

...

[grasswire]

89. some twitter comments

MMTCHICK ‏@Mrsmmtbeauty 22m22 minutes ago
@ShimonPro @SaraMurray @evanperez Crooked Hillary's friend also under FBI & DOJ investigation?? Wow, Crooked friends run together! 👎👎👎👎
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Sandra Lannis ‏@SandyLannis 34m34 minutes ago
@ShimonPro @EWErickson @evanperez They better indict & convict before Hillary gets in or there will be another white wash
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Theresa ‏@721tv 46m46 minutes ago
@ShimonPro @TeddyDavisCNN @evanperez Wow. Two VA Govs in recent years. Might make the McDonnell SCOTUS case even more interesting
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@ShimonPro @SaraMurray @evanperez right wing conspiracy
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@ShimonPro @evanperez trump donated to him.
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@ShimonPro @matt_appleman @evanperez They are all alike!
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1/20/2017 ‏@bobcpcww 29m29 minutes ago
@ShimonPro @FreeBeacon @evanperez big surprise! More Clinton cronies in trouble. Least the Clinton cult help keep FBI in biz
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[Uncle Joe]

93. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, grasswire.

[nc4bo]

96. I saw the movie The Perfect Storm. It was incredibly good yet depressingly sad.

How all those elements came together in such a way as to cause that horrible tragedy.

[winter is coming]

134. ...

[One Black Sheep]

97. This has now made the front page of Google news, third item down from the top

https://news.google.com/?ar=1464038805

[grasswire]

99. Wang

[tularetom]

127. I remember him

[senz]

153. Took a few nanoseconds

[underthematrix]

100. This is the REAL reason

Terry is under investigation http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/23/us/governor-terry-mcauliffe-virginia-voting-rights-convicted-felons.html?_r=0

[grasswire]

101. they are investigating him for restoring rights to likely Democrats?

An investigation into his campaign donations that began a year ago?

I don't think so.

[underthematrix]

105. Yes. Referrals can come from anywhere. THe GOP said they were going after Terry

for restoring voting rights. I think this is what it's about. I expect to see a lot of more of things like this because it goes with the Clinton untrustworthy/criminal meme

[grasswire]

109. sure nt

[underthematrix]

114. I feel sorry for you but it doesn't change the outcome

[grasswire]

115. LOL

thanks for the kick

[seabeyond]

107. Lets cheer. Hey Skinner, a Democratic board excited that a Democrat bites the dust. If he does.

I care very little for McAuliffe. We are also anxiously awaiting an indictment on Clinton. Oh, please, please.

Christmas.

[grasswire]

112. thanks for the kick nt

[B Calm]

128. You mean another turd way hits the dust.

[obamanut2012]

161. You got it, Sea

Especially since he's been an outstanding Gov so far.

[wendylaroux]

129. another right wing attack!!!.

will they ever stop??!!

[trudyco]

130. I don't see what he did wrong

If Mr. Wang is considered a citizen (although how did he do that?) then he's just another American Billionaire. Gets to be in the donor class. sounds legal. And how does it relate to the Clinton Global Initiative.

I guess they have something. It's the FBI. And it will give them a chance to dig deeper into CGI and Clinton Foundation and especially that Canadian version could get real interesting I would guess.

We live in interesting times.

[grasswire]

135. yes, you get it

This appears to be a leak to tweak the Clinton camp by dinging someone close to them -- someone who perhaps has actionable inside information. It's likely not about this donation. It's about something else to do with the Foundation writ large.

IOW:

FBI to Clinton: We are investigating your crony. Sweat.

[MisterP]

151. sharks follow in the wake of minnows

[frylock]

142. Weird how this is no BFD and a VRWC, while the FEC investigation on Bernie..

is the greatest scandal in political herstory. Weird.

[Myrina]

162. ^ this ^

x100

[Zorra]

145. He was Hillary Clinton's Campaign Chairman in 2008, and DWS was co-chair of

Clinton's 2008 campaign.

[NWCorona]

152. Maybe this is what she means with her new slogan.

[panader0]

146. What a nest of crooks....

[Baitball Blogger]

149. Hmmm...how interesting.

[hrmjustin]

150. Must be something in the water in the VA governor's mansion.

[2banon]

155. Sad to see this one, I think of McAuliffe as decent bloke despite his ties with the Clintons

I hope all of this is bullshit, CNN just making up shit just cuz, that's what they do. .

[grasswire]

159. here's the CNN video

I just noticed this statement; the reporter says there are no allegations of any wrongdoing by the Clintons.