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Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
Mon May 23, 2016, 05:46 PM May 2016

THIS IS WHY YOU NEVER GET IN BED WITH CLINTON PEOPLE: Terry McAuliffe under investigation by the FBI

He carpet bagged his way into Virginia. Virginia has a long line of great Democratic governors. We also had the high road on corruption after the McDonald scandal. Now Terry throws is all away over Hillary and the Clinton foundation.

I'm fucking livid right now.

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THIS IS WHY YOU NEVER GET IN BED WITH CLINTON PEOPLE: Terry McAuliffe under investigation by the FBI (Original Post) Joe the Revelator May 2016 OP
Better read the entire story before making false accusations. tonyt53 May 2016 #1
Please point me to the part that makes this better. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #3
Maybe the part where the Chinese gentleman who gave the COLGATE4 May 2016 #13
The FBI would have confirmed that in an afternoon. CanadaexPat May 2016 #33
The FBI doing an investigation into a perfectly legal donation which would check out in an hour Autumn May 2016 #57
what is the false accusation there? nt grasswire May 2016 #4
This is hardly the first time that he's run into trouble cali May 2016 #6
Doesn't matter. McAuliffe was in bed.... after all. seabeyond May 2016 #7
second consecutive gov under FBI investigation grasswire May 2016 #2
Mark Warner and Tim Kaine worked their asses off to make 'democrats' not a bad word in VA Joe the Revelator May 2016 #5
I was born there MFM008 May 2016 #32
Chincoteague, oof. VulgarPoet May 2016 #70
Are you a Virginian? Blue_Tires May 2016 #8
I am,born, bred, and currently and that, my friend, is simply not true. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #11
It's typical Clintonese JackInGreen May 2016 #15
Wasn't McAuliffe being considered as a VP candidate for HRC? EndElectoral May 2016 #9
Not anymore lol NWCorona May 2016 #24
Well, shoot, if someone who is being investigated by the FBI Art_from_Ark May 2016 #61
Goldman-Sachs is her choice for vp candidate. rhett o rick May 2016 #34
Oh my passiveporcupine May 2016 #68
You laugh but Pfizer will be appointed head of the FDA, Monsanto, Chevron, Citibank, rhett o rick May 2016 #69
you have a good point passiveporcupine May 2016 #71
And in 3 business years, all your dreams will come true. randome May 2016 #10
This honestly, for me, has nothing to do with Sanders. It has to do with Virginia, and the shit show Joe the Revelator May 2016 #12
I think it has to do with Terry McAuliffe despite your fever-dreams of destroying Clinton. randome May 2016 #14
I mean, you can just make stuff up if you want. No skin off my back... Joe the Revelator May 2016 #16
You despise Clinton because Sanders lost so it DOES have to do with Sanders. randome May 2016 #18
I despise those that choose to support the oligarchy over helping the poor. rhett o rick May 2016 #35
First of all...don't pretend to know why i do or do not 'despise' something. You don't know me. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #49
I know you by your actions. The article specifically says the CF has nothing to do with this. randome May 2016 #58
Where does it specifically say that? Where? Joe the Revelator May 2016 #59
It says that by omission. randome May 2016 #60
ah, so you're just making stuff up. Joe the Revelator May 2016 #62
Except it's not. TwilightZone May 2016 #48
Nothing to indicate? From CNN NWCorona May 2016 #28
His "time as a board member" means what? That Clinton is the monster you want to see? randome May 2016 #46
Joe says: CONVICTED! BootinUp May 2016 #17
Joe REVEALS ALL in his secret cabaret! anigbrowl May 2016 #20
How does an initial release with little information make one livid? NCTraveler May 2016 #19
Dems can not afford to lose more governorships over these shenanigans. Ash_F May 2016 #22
And they haven't lost this one. NCTraveler May 2016 #25
The story just broke. Don't be juvenile. Ash_F May 2016 #27
Interesting to say while you attempt to dismiss with names. NCTraveler May 2016 #37
No just disappointed. Ash_F May 2016 #38
Ahhh. Agree. NCTraveler May 2016 #39
I am not convinced he is guilty Ash_F May 2016 #41
Can you imagine? Possibly legal. I'm livid. NCTraveler May 2016 #42
Because he shouldn't be taking money from wealthy Chinese businessmen in the first place. Ash_F May 2016 #44
I would have no sympathy either. NCTraveler May 2016 #45
That would be different Ash_F May 2016 #66
If the businessman in question is a lawful permanent resident, why not? anigbrowl May 2016 #64
Is your wife a billionaire trying to buy influence in Virginia? Ash_F May 2016 #65
Because, coming off the McDonald debiacle, Virginia Democrats where in position to prove that we Joe the Revelator May 2016 #51
Allegedly over donations from a Chinese businessman Ash_F May 2016 #21
"But Wang holds U.S. permanent resident status..." TwilightZone May 2016 #54
See the thread in post #39 Ash_F May 2016 #56
Turd Way = Best Government Money Can Buy! B Calm May 2016 #23
You apparently didn't read the article. At all mythology May 2016 #26
False accusatios...where are the mods? Demsrule86 May 2016 #29
What false accusation? cali May 2016 #30
There are no mods to come and hide whatever you think needs hidden. So typical for rhett o rick May 2016 #36
The FBI said there was an ongoing investigation. Not sure what you are getting at. Ash_F May 2016 #40
What part of Virginia do you live in? Joe the Revelator May 2016 #52
There haven't been any mods since DU3 Fumesucker May 2016 #67
sounds like rightwing Bullshite Demsrule86 May 2016 #31
People said the same thing about Hillary's FBI problem but that's now official. NWCorona May 2016 #43
"There's no allegation that the foundation did anything improper" TwilightZone May 2016 #47
And if you get in bed with Sanders, you have people like Jane doing the finances, and we've anotherproletariat May 2016 #50
The headline about "Clinton People" assumes this is... Mike Nelson May 2016 #53
Are we going to pretend that Hillary and Terry aren't connected at the hip? Joe the Revelator May 2016 #55
It is also the reason there is a caps lock blocker app. MyNameGoesHere May 2016 #63

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
13. Maybe the part where the Chinese gentleman who gave the
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:03 PM
May 2016

donation to McAuliffe is a US permanent resident and his donation is perfectly legal?

CanadaexPat

(496 posts)
33. The FBI would have confirmed that in an afternoon.
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:42 PM
May 2016

Since campaign donations are legal from a green card holder, they must be looking at something else.

Autumn

(45,108 posts)
57. The FBI doing an investigation into a perfectly legal donation which would check out in an hour
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:36 PM
May 2016

so I would think that that's not what they are looking at.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
7. Doesn't matter. McAuliffe was in bed.... after all.
Mon May 23, 2016, 05:50 PM
May 2016

I really do not know the story yet. Just kinda gettin into the excitement of a Democrat being investigated.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
2. second consecutive gov under FBI investigation
Mon May 23, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

I'm sorry. I love Virginia. What a beautiful state. Wish I was there right now, lounging on the beach at Chincoteague, or walking King Street in Alexandria, or sitting in the garden of the Chowning Tavern. Or driving through Cuckoo Virginia on the way to Monticello.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
5. Mark Warner and Tim Kaine worked their asses off to make 'democrats' not a bad word in VA
Mon May 23, 2016, 05:50 PM
May 2016

I worked for both of them. To see this happen now is fucking heart breaking. Fucking Terry.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
70. Chincoteague, oof.
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:03 AM
May 2016

Probably where I'll spend the Fourth of July, unless the fireworks are better here. Found a deserted, rarely used beach that had a BEAUTIFUL look at like half the fireworks displays in Hampton a couple years back, torn between that and Chincoteague. Virginia's a fuckin' beautiful state, I'd know from just how much time I spent living here-- but wow, can we stop getting terrible governors?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. Are you a Virginian?
Mon May 23, 2016, 05:51 PM
May 2016

If you are, you'd know that the past 4-5 governors "carpetbagged" their way into the state...

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
11. I am,born, bred, and currently and that, my friend, is simply not true.
Mon May 23, 2016, 05:58 PM
May 2016

I worked for each of them. Mark Warner was from Northern Virginia and had private sector businesses there before running for Governor. Tim Kaine cut his teeth as mayor of Richmond.

What was Terry doing in VA before running for Governor?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
61. Well, shoot, if someone who is being investigated by the FBI
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:01 PM
May 2016

can get the Democratic nomination for *President*, then surely it wouldn't be a problem for someone who wants to be the nominee for *Vice President*

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
69. You laugh but Pfizer will be appointed head of the FDA, Monsanto, Chevron, Citibank,
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:54 AM
May 2016

will all get key appointments. The SCOTUS ruled that corporations are people, so why not hold admin positions?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. And in 3 business years, all your dreams will come true.
Mon May 23, 2016, 05:55 PM
May 2016

It is truly pathetic to jump to these kind of conclusions for the sole purpose of making yourselves feel better about Sanders' loss.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
12. This honestly, for me, has nothing to do with Sanders. It has to do with Virginia, and the shit show
Mon May 23, 2016, 05:59 PM
May 2016

that follows Clinton and her people wherever they go.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
14. I think it has to do with Terry McAuliffe despite your fever-dreams of destroying Clinton.
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:08 PM
May 2016

You backed the wrong candidate. Why does that mean you have to destroy Clinton? Aren't there more worthwhile 'missions' you can perform?

There is nothing -nothing- that indicates Clinton has anything to do with McAuliffe's problems. If such evidence turns up, I'm sure we can count on you to get on the Hate-Phone and let us know. Until then, no one is going to lose any sleep over this.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
16. I mean, you can just make stuff up if you want. No skin off my back...
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:13 PM
May 2016

Again, this for me, has nothing to do with Sanders. It is the continuing corruption of people connected to Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. The Clinton foundation is involved in this McAuliffe matter, let's not pretend that it isn't. Its right there in any news article you read.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. You despise Clinton because Sanders lost so it DOES have to do with Sanders.
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

"The Clinton Foundation is involved". Well, neither you nor grasswire linked to an actual article in your OPs so to what article are you referring?

You both were so eager to get this out to show how wonderfully prescient you were. But it doesn't show that at all. After all, you weren't prescient enough to know that Sanders would lose. Your track record is not good on these matters and you are not at all objective.

I'll say it now as I've said it for every situation that arises for the Clinton campaign: if anything nefarious is proven, let the chips fall where they may. But I'm not taking your word for anything.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
35. I despise those that choose to support the oligarchy over helping the poor.
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:48 PM
May 2016

Sanders hasn't lost and we will continue to fight.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
49. First of all...don't pretend to know why i do or do not 'despise' something. You don't know me.
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:24 PM
May 2016

At all.

Heres your link: http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/23/politics/terry-mcauliffe-fbi-doj-federal-investigation-campaign-contributions/index.html

Probably super hard to find that yourself, as the news is breaking EVERYWHERE.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
58. I know you by your actions. The article specifically says the CF has nothing to do with this.
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:40 PM
May 2016

But you clearly want otherwise. What reason would that be unless you hate Clinton so much you can no longer be objective?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
59. Where does it specifically say that? Where?
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:42 PM
May 2016

Also are we going to act like Terry isn't one of Clinton's staunchest and unwavering supporters? This corruption bullshit follows the Clinton's wherever they go, and that is a huge problem. Now it's snuck into my state.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
60. It says that by omission.
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:50 PM
May 2016

"There's no allegation that the foundation did anything improper; the probe has focused on McAuliffe and the electoral campaign donations, the officials said."

So if the focus is away from the CF, that means...

You'll believe what you fervently want and it's a shame you can't see things objectively. And it's a shame you'll be proven wrong again. You know why? Because you always want to win. Whereas I, if the CF -and Clinton herself- are found to have engaged in illegal activity, I say again: let the chips fall where they may. Because I don't care about 'winning', I will never 'lose'.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
28. Nothing to indicate? From CNN
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:32 PM
May 2016

"As part of the probe, the officials said, investigators have scrutinized McAuliffe's time as a board member of the Clinton Global Initiative, a vehicle of the charitable foundation set up by former President Bill Clinton."

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
46. His "time as a board member" means what? That Clinton is the monster you want to see?
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:11 PM
May 2016

The Clinton Foundation is a public charity, for Christ's sake!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
37. Interesting to say while you attempt to dismiss with names.
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:50 PM
May 2016

Something I haven't done. Are you livid over this as well or did you just want to call someone juvenile?

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
41. I am not convinced he is guilty
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:00 PM
May 2016

However if an investigation has gone on as long as this, without being dropped, it is not a good sign.

One pundit offered that the Businessman has a greencard, making it legal. I feel if that were all there is to it, it would have been dropped on initial review.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
42. Can you imagine? Possibly legal. I'm livid.
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:03 PM
May 2016

I'm not sure why you commented originally considering neither of us are livid. You seem far from it.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
44. Because he shouldn't be taking money from wealthy Chinese businessmen in the first place.
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:06 PM
May 2016

If he broke the law, then I have no sympathy.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
45. I would have no sympathy either.
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:09 PM
May 2016


How about taking money from a poor Chinese businessman with a green card? Are we clear in that situation?
 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
64. If the businessman in question is a lawful permanent resident, why not?
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:27 PM
May 2016

As the spouse of an Asian-American person, I'm intensely interested in your answer. Should my wife's political donations be rejected because her name sounds too foreign? Please elaborate on your national-origin test criteria.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
51. Because, coming off the McDonald debiacle, Virginia Democrats where in position to prove that we
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:27 PM
May 2016

were the incorrupt party. Then we elected Terry.

We have been fighting to get democrats into this position in Virginia for a long long time. Before Mark Warner, being a democrat in VA was a dirty word.

We fought long and hard since Jim Gilmore to change that, and to change the way Virginia votes. Stuff like that KILLS all the good work we've done over the last 20 years.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
21. Allegedly over donations from a Chinese businessman
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:26 PM
May 2016

The Same person donated 2 million to the Clinton foundation.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
54. "But Wang holds U.S. permanent resident status..."
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:36 PM
May 2016

"But Wang holds U.S. permanent resident status, according to a spokeswoman, which would make him a U.S. person under election law and eligible to donate to McAuliffe's campaign. "

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/23/politics/terry-mcauliffe-fbi-doj-federal-investigation-campaign-contributions/index.html

The dearth of information in the OP is not helping his cause.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
29. False accusatios...where are the mods?
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:35 PM
May 2016

Terry has been a great governor...and done much good...I suppose you pure types would prefer the cooch...you guys are going to far in your pathological hatred of the Clintons...

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
36. There are no mods to come and hide whatever you think needs hidden. So typical for
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:50 PM
May 2016

conservatives to try to censor discussions they don't like.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
67. There haven't been any mods since DU3
Tue May 24, 2016, 01:47 AM
May 2016

You really should try to keep up with the way the website is run.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
47. "There's no allegation that the foundation did anything improper"
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

"There's no allegation that the foundation did anything improper; the probe has focused on McAuliffe and the electoral campaign donations, the officials said. "

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/23/politics/terry-mcauliffe-fbi-doj-federal-investigation-campaign-contributions/index.html

Your livid assertion that it's all about the foundation doesn't seem to have any basis at the moment.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
50. And if you get in bed with Sanders, you have people like Jane doing the finances, and we've
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:26 PM
May 2016

all seen how well that works out.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
53. The headline about "Clinton People" assumes this is...
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:32 PM
May 2016

...Clinton's fault? That's more FOX "News" than real World.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
55. Are we going to pretend that Hillary and Terry aren't connected at the hip?
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:38 PM
May 2016

Is that what we're doing now?

How quickly some of you forget.

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