In 2000: People said there was no difference between Al Gore and George W Bush

[samsingh]

It was before DemocraticUnderground existed. I would engage in discussions with people on the left and right. What struck me was that many people on the Left hated Gore. They thought he was no different than George W, saying that the government under either would be the same.

Gore, they said, was boring, to self-involved, not fair to others, boorish, hated guns. What would be the difference if George w - a guy who seemed to lie about everything, but who could be sure - became president?

History shows us differently. I would have preferred a world where Gore took office - I believe he actually did win the Presidency - instead of the one where the office was stolen by the Supreme court, led by scalia and Thomas (with Sandra O'Conner publically stating that she wanted to retire under a republican president).

Things became so bad for free speech. That's when we found this site and some comfort during the awful, scary bush years.

[liberal_at_heart]

1. Gore encouraged Bill Clinton to dump people from welfare in order to balance the budget.

That created an entire generation of children living in poverty and those now adults are still in poverty. So no, Gore was no saint. I support his environmental work but not his economic work.

[samsingh]

3. Unfortunately, it is a boolian decison. Was bush better for us?

[liberal_at_heart]

4. Economically they were pretty equal. Sorry I don't buy the tired argument of

one being better than the other.

[samsingh]

5. so 911, no iraq war, an economy that was thriving under clinton/gore to

the shitshow under bush.

No difference?

[liberal_at_heart]

7. And Hillary supported the Iraq War and supports heavy military intervention in many

other places as well. If we didn't spend trillions on war and taxed the rich, we could afford things like expanding SS, Medicare for All, and tuition free college, and we wouldn't have to compromise on budget deals and cut social services.

[Demsrule86]

9. Are you seriously saying Bush was better than Clinton or Gore or anyone for that matter.

And what will Trump do...we will all be eating cat food after he destroys the economy because Trump is stupid and a failed businessman, a racist and thinks it is ok to drop bombs in Europe and the Middle EaSt ....come back to reality...so much clearer.

[samsingh]

10. you ignored my point about gore/bush. Hillary did not spend the trillions. her vote MADE NO

DIFFERENCE.

If anything, it is the independents and others that were voting people against the war out of office at the time Max Cleland comes to mind (a war hero and amputee) who was voted out because the public thought he was anti-military.

[liberal_at_heart]

12. And that is exactly why the Democrats pivoted towards supporting war, to win elections.

The Democratic Party used to be anti-war. Now they will do whatever it takes to win even if it means compromising their principals and allowing thousands to die in war and waste our tax money that could be spent on social services just like the Republicans.

[samsingh]

14. You remember we were attacked in 2001? I believe that attack would have been stopped under Gore

the bush idiots were warned and they did nothing. He went to his ranch for a month vacation to clean brush.

if no 2001, there would have been no invasions of afghan and Iraq. we would not be in the mess we are in today.

[liberal_at_heart]

22. Well I'm glad you are gifted with the sight of knowing what could have been.

Good for you. All I know is what did happen, and I Gore did support throwing people off of welfare. The majority of Democrats support spending trillions on war, are too afraid to raise taxes, and then tell us we must compromise and cut social services during budget cuts. I am done arguing with you. I am moving on to another thread.

[samsingh]

25. Actually - Richard Clark, who was the anti-terrorism czar bush refused to listen to about threats

from bin laden made that conclusion.

Why? Because, when similar threats were being received in 1999, Clinton and Gore met everyday until the attacks were stopped. Bush went on vacation. Simple google searches prove this.

So it's not my gift, rather, rather the experts who know.

[tabasco]

21. Stupidest post I've read today.

Congrats.

[Demsrule86]

11. Gore would have been so much better than Bush

The greens stopped the progressive movement in its tracks...gave Bush the majority of court picks which lead to United...two wars and economy that collapsed...and you think we should elect someone who thinks like you? Bernie Sanders will never be president.

[samsingh]

27. The only uncivility i used to see on here were about discussions about gun control

now, facts about republicans or anything positive the Clinton's have done are met with anger and swearing.

I wish Hillary will sow up the nomination so things can get to normal and we can fight the true republican enemy again.

[MFM008]

2. yeah I hear this crap

from my sister.
Shes a 1 issue voter - pot.
Gonna have to tie her into her bed again like i did when she was a kid.
(Im 8 years older).

[seabeyond]

17. It is the people that gripe, do not follow what is up, and does not vote. I have them too.

[HereSince1628]

6. What a difference a VP makes!

[Demsrule86]

8. I agree with you

And people should consider...that Trump would be worse than Bush...a pox on Nader and h is crew.

[99Forever]

13. Bullshit. Prove it.

[samsingh]

15. You prove it's not true.

[samsingh]

23. There is no reason for swearing, except that you don't have a point to make.

[seabeyond]

16. it is a stupid statement that Sanders himself has said repeatedly. Tweedledee and dum.

Fact, alone makes this a false statement.

Yet, here we are, Sanders feeding it.

[samsingh]

18. i've heard him say it.

[seabeyond]

19. Yes. Nt

[reddread]

24. I think you have it wrong

since Al Gore wasnt POTUS, it would be difficult to make a judgement about his personal responsibility for perception problems.
wouldnt it be more accurate, if you want to name names, that there was a sense of very little difference between Bill Clinton and the Republicans?
an odd charge, unless you are factoring sexual affairs.
as important as they may be for the dischargers,
in retrospect they seem to have taken all the scandal out of it.

[Ash_F]

26. Gore tried to hug the right too much in his campaign.

He lost a low turnout campaign because of low turnout and lack of enthusiasm.

Would Gore have been a better president? Probably.


But we would most certainly still have had 9/11 and then you would have really seen a right wing takeover of government.

[MattP]

29. Gore had the most votes ever for a time

Low turnout yeah that's it, whatever you say

[samsingh]

30. Not According to Richard Clarke who was the antiterrorism czar.

[tabasco]

28. And those people were idiots.

As is anyone who claims there is no difference between H. Clinton and D. Trump.

I've stopped trying to figure it out. There are simply a lot of stupid people in the world. Many of them are assholes.

[milestogo]

31. Yeah, and they complained about the way Al Gore dressed.

EARTH TONES!

[onecaliberal]

32. I never heard that.

[LyndaG]

33. Didn't fall for it then.

Not falling for it now.