Tweety: Networks will name HRC the nominee before CA polls close

[grasswire]

.....on election day. He was predicting that networks will drive down voting in CA by including the super delegates in her count and implying it's over.

Did anyone hear him talking about that?

[hrmjustin]

1. They should. She won.

[panader0]

24. Supers are counted at the convention. Hold your horses cowboy.....

[hrmjustin]

25. Supers have let their opinion be known.

[panader0]

27. Supers like Al Franken.

Bernie won Minnesota 61.6 to 38.4 percent. Don't you believe that Al should endorse
the candidate his constituency did? Nah, hell with democracy.....

[hrmjustin]

30. Don't you think the first place finisher should win the nomination?

[panader0]

33. In his state, HRC was NOT the first place finisher. By a long shot.

The people that voted for Al Franken are being slapped by him. The people that voted for Al
want Bernie, The supers are hugely Un democratic.

[hrmjustin]

35. Grayson is voting for Sanders even though FL voted for Hillary.

[panader0]

38. Good find. He may be he only one.

My point is that Bernie has, what, 40% 0f the vote? But certainly not 40% of the supers.
Supers suck. They're often bought, influenced, promised favors, etc. Their votes are said
to be worth many thousands of regular voters. Not right.

[hrmjustin]

39. Without the supers Hillary wins.

With them she wins.

Either case she wins.

[oberliner]

57. Under this construct, whoever gets the most pledged delegates would be the nominee

If the supers are assigned by the same percentages as the pledged, then the pledged delegate winner would be the nominee. And that is looking like it will almost certainly be Hillary.

[panader0]

66. Yeah. Why shouldn't they behave like pledged delegates?

Oh yeah, they're elite, and can piss on the electorate.

[oberliner]

68. Good question

It does not seem that they serve any purpose.

In terms of this particular election cycle, though, it appears that the winner in terms of pledged delegates will be Hillary so the only way the Supers could influence the results would be if they went against the pledged delegate winner and chose Bernie instead based on Bernie's argument that he has a better chance to beat Trump.

That would be inherently anti-democratic, wouldn't it?

[lancer78]

67. Bernie has

13 Superdelegates from states HRC won.

[AgingAmerican]

45. Hillary had more votes than Obama in 08

So by your logic Obama should never had been president

[hrmjustin]

48. Delegates.

[LiberalFighter]

32. Don't you think the rules should be followed?

[panader0]

37. What do you mean? Supers can choose who they want, right?

It just seems so wrong when the people who voted him into office also voted, by a large majority,
for Bernie. So Al is still a super for HRC. Not right in my opinion.

[AgingAmerican]

47. The 'rules' state super delegates can choose whomever they want

[okasha]

60. Why should any superdelegate

be forced to vote for someone s/he considers an inferior, possibly disastrous, candidate?. Why do you want your Senator to use his vote, in effect, to lie?

[2banon]

64. why bother with the pretense then? You support charades, I get that.

what's the effin point in making the media rich since it's already decided by the Super Delegates?.

You support charades, I get that.

Why should tax payers pay for any of itl? Why are we pretending that we are participating in a democratic process, when it's just all a big dog and pony charade?

[hrmjustin]

65. I believe first place finshers should be the winner.

You?

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. They have been doing that all season

so what is new? Someday historians will call them on it, but since Americans have the memory of gnats, they won't care... for the record, this is unethical.

[DURHAM D]

5. call them on what exactly? nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Go argue with her

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[DURHAM D]

15. iows - you got nothing on point

Thanks for proving said void.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. She told them MOTHS AGO to stop doing that shit

by the way, the US Media crossed into advocacy. That is a violation of the SPJ code of ethics.

You could give two shits about it. But I do care. It proves just how much propaganda like US media has become

[DURHAM D]

17. You don't even know what this thread is about.

Done

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. I kow exactly what this is about

and she does not have enough PDs to cross the threshold.

I find it hysterical how manipulated you folks are

[oldandhappy]

29. yep

I have been saying MSM is mind pollution.

[senz]

53. They want to stop Bernie's California turnout.

Cheaters cheat.

Liars lie.

Sometimes they end up in prison.

[Juicy_Bellows]

18. Yep - no one had voted yet and we were told that she had this giant lead already.

Unethical to the core - and the media has consistently included supers in their figures time and time again (often times without the little asterisk denoting supers are included).

Shifty bastards.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. If this was the republicans you would hear howls of indignation

but unethical behavior with the donkeys is A ok. Of course then they wonder why I now consider the D side of the house a conservative right wing party. This is the minor issue. But it is part of it.

[Retrograde]

21. Voting in CA started on May 9

We're not like New York, where everyone votes on the same day, save the few who are granted absentee ballots. Anyone here can request a mail-in ballot, or go down to the county registrar and vote in person before the election - some counties even have additional early voting sites!
According to my county election people, my own ballot was received and counted last week (although by "counted" I think they mean "verified the signature and put in the good pile.

The reason the networks want to jump the gun is probably the 3 hour time difference: why should people on the East Coast have to stay up late just so West Coasters can cast their votes without influence from people deciding it's all over?

[Juicy_Bellows]

22. What I am referring to is counting the super delegates before the people have voted.

Like in friggin' February or earlier.

[DURHAM D]

3. True.

Once NJ count is started they will announce.

SuperDs don't really matter but they are 15% of total delegates. eos

[okasha]

13. New Jersey will put her over the top early in the evening.

California should bring her another 250 delegates, minimum.

The latest polls are approaching blowout proportions; as in New Mexico, the demographics favor Hillary.

[anotherproletariat]

54. And all she needs is 85 delegates!

I'm ignoring anyone who says "but the supers haven't voted yet".

Let's connect with reality here: They are Democrats. They vote for Democrats.

[NWCorona]

4. The only way the status quo survives is if Bernie drops out before California.

[Zynx]

34. Why? Considering he'll be lucky to win CA and he needs more than winning.

He needs to win by a mile.

[MFM008]

6. oh please

They will DRAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG it out just in the hope someone will watch.
It will be to close to call or to early or something.
They do it every time, the only one that was truly to close to call was KY.

[arcane1]

7. They've been working overtime to suppress voting here. Or at least suppress enthusiasm.

They're failing

[anotherproletariat]

12. Who has? Everyone I talk to seems pretty fired up. nt

[senz]

58. Maybe warn people the pro-Hill MSM will call it before they've voted

and that it's just another another dirty trick on the part of a desperate campaign.

It helps if people know what to expect.

[brooklynite]

8. NJ polls will close at 8 PM...

...The race won't be called until 9 PM at the earliest

That's 6 PM California time. The number of people who 1) didn't vote early and 2) gave up voting because of a political news show they're not watching (because they're in line voting) is minimal.

[anotherproletariat]

9. Maybe he should do his research and discover that CA is a big vote by mail state.

In the 2014 primary, it was 70%...and there has been a huge surge in people changing to permanent vote-by-mail status since then. I don't think making an early call will really have that much impact on the CA vote totals.

[Starry Messenger]

10. We have a lot of mail-in and early voting here.

The counting will go quickly.

[Cheese Sandwich]

11. If there was ever a real revolution I doubt Tweety would survive

[Ed Suspicious]

42. He would not.

[katmondoo]

23. Why was Ann Coulter on his show today?

[wendylaroux]

28. yea I know,howcreepy was that?

and she was giggling like a school girl with tweety. gag me with a spoon.

[LiberalFighter]

36. Because Matthew enjoys their company.

And has a difficult time being rational.

[oldandhappy]

26. I am sure they will

I am sooooooo grateful I do not do MSM anymore.

[Maedhros]

31. Hell, they did that before the primary started.

The same people who own Hillary also own the networks. They work together like hand in glove.

[GreatGazoo]

44. exactly, they declared her the winner in 2015 and have been saying so throughout

[amborin]

40. disgusting; also, driving today listened to KNX 1070 news radio @ 12:54pm and the

anchor was mentioning Bernie's rally today in Santa Monica (he's had several today, alone). She
prefaced the snippet of his speech by saying something along lines of: "Bernie will not win the
California primary or the nomination but here is some of his speech."

Was so livid, could hardly drive. Waited til got off freeway and called the newsroom. Amazing that they
pick up the phone there. Man says it was probably an op ed piece. I said, no, it's the regular anchor (I could
recognize her voice and name). So upsetting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. Well local KPBS station

said "The presidential circus is coming to town." That is a direct quote.

[amborin]

61. horrible; and nyt has hit smear piece on front page today's paper

[senz]

59. NPR's been pulling that shit.

They're also having all these "sincere" discussions about whether or not Bernie staying in the race is "hurting" Hillary's chances against Trump.

On Dec. 12, 2000, the SCOTUS ruled in favor of Hill's good buddy Dubya on the grounds that a full recount would "harm" Dubya.

[amborin]

62. yes, totally outrageous and disgusting! npr has been doing that all along; there's someone who come

comes on at noon after 'morning becomes eclectic', whose name i forget, but she is one of the worst; but they are all terrible on npr

[senz]

63. I was a paying supporter for decades

in recent years an "evergreen" (recurring monthly payments) supporter, but a while back after someone said Bernie was trying to "spin" something I called and cancelled and told them why. They were upset. I was glad. It was during pledge week, too. Screw 'em.

This campaign is bringing so many things into sharp, clear focus.

[Renew Deal]

41. I've been telling people this

Hillary will need near 50% from NJ to hit 2383. Polls close in NJ at 8PM EDT. She will get it before polls close in CA.

[floriduck]

46. Nothing surprises me with the husband of a loser candidate.

[beachbumbob]

49. Hillary will have the delegates in hand from New Jersey...

California will explode her lead...

[senz]

50. Bill's 1996 Telecom Act is paying off. The MSM monopoly knows who its friends are.

Just think what Hillary would do for Corporate America!

They must be salivating. $$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Recursion]

51. She will probably reach 2026 with New Jersey; the supers have nothing to do with it.

It is likely she will have a majority of pledged delegates by 7pm Eastern Time.

[IdaBriggs]

52. Great way to destroy the Democratic brand --

FBI indictments looming, and they are going to taint our party as criminals right along with her.

[senz]

55. All's fair when you're trying to steal an election.

Just ask Hill's good buddy Dubya.

[edgineered]

56. Brings to mind -