SANDERS: DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION COULD BE 'MESSY'

[NWCorona]

"LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Bernie Sanders predicted Monday that the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia could be "messy" as he pushed the party to adopt his progressive agenda, but added: "Democracy is not always nice and quiet and gentle."

The Democratic presidential candidate said in an interview with The Associated Press that his supporters hoped to see a platform at the July convention that reflects the needs of working families, the poor and young people as opposed to one that represents Wall Street and corporate America.

The Vermont senator said he will "condemn any and all forms of violence" but his campaign was bringing in newcomers to the process and first-time attendees of political conventions. He said the Democratic party could choose to be more inclusive.

"I think if they make the right choice and open the doors to working class people and young people and create the kind of dynamism that the Democratic party needs, it's going to be messy," Sanders said. "Democracy is not always nice and quiet and gentle but that is where the Democratic party should go."

Asked if the convention could be messy, Sanders said, "So what! Democracy is messy. Everyday my life is messy. But if you want everything to be quiet and orderly and allow, you know, just things to proceed without vigorous debate, that is not what democracy is about."


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DEM_2016_SANDERS_INTERVIEW?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-05-23-19-05-51

[underthematrix]

1. The VERY DIVERSE Obama Coalition is already part of the

DEM party.

[Exilednight]

33. Okay, but according to exit polling their not voting in this election.

People that were first time voters in 2008 just aren't turning out to vote this time.

[underthematrix]

39. They're not turning out for the primary?

Is that what you mean?

[Exilednight]

42. they haven't turned out for anything except the last Presidential election when Obama

Was on the ballot. Turnout will not be as high as it was in the last two presidential elections. There isn't the same excitement as there was around Obama. When Obama ran, I couldn't walk 20 feet without running into someone who wouldn't show their enthusiasm for Obama. Now I can't walk 20 miles and find someone who is excited about Hillary.

[underthematrix]

44. President Obama will change all that but I'm a member of the

Obama coalition so is my sister, nephew, and husband and we're all voting for Hillary in the CA primary. However, PBO will be there for the general and that will be everything. He'll make the argument for a Hillary Clinton presidency like no one else can.

[GreatGazoo]

49. and they like....

[underthematrix]

58. Intro to Poli Sci can help you with this

[GreatGazoo]

59. I'll take that one right after Dealing with Condescension 101

numbers are numbers my friend

[Renew Deal]

2. If Bernie is still hanging around at the convention, it won't be about democracy. It will be his ego

[cali]

5. Bernie definitely has an ego, but that's not his motivation

[NWCorona]

11. Hillary is running purely because of her ego.

[m-lekktor]

30. Anybody who runs for president has an ego, including your beloved Hillary!

[Demsrule86]

3. Yeah and if they don't behave secret service will toss them out

so maybe you better give your 'peeps' some etiquette..lessons. What they do reflects on you...and out they go .

[LiberalFighter]

4. I hope they are thrown out along with Sanders.

[cali]

7. Anyone who thinks he'll be thrown out is letting their fevered fantasies get

the better of them

[JRLeft]

23. There are some real authoritarians in this thread.

[KingFlorez]

8. It would be truly pathetic if Sanders was thrown out

I would not be surprised if it happened, though.

[derpderpderp]

38. Will the FBI get to Hillary before the SS gets to Bernie's supporters?

[BootinUp]

6. Guess he hasn't gotten enough concessions yet. New Jersey and California

send this guy back to Vermont with a good kick.

[cali]

10. Sorry. He'll still be a Senator with enormous clout.

Now if we can just keep you Conservadems out of our beautiful progressive state.

[Corporate666]

21. Enormous clout? LOL!

Bernie has never had any clout. He hasn't ever passed any legislation, despite being in the senate for years. He's been almost totally ineffective in the job.

When he returns to the senate, he will have substantially less clout than he did before, because he will have pissed off quite a few of his colleagues. The only people who can vote for Sanders are Vermonters, and they have been voting for him all along. The fact that he ran and lost on the national stage gains him nothing additional. It's not like he will maintain an army of Bernbots ready to hang on his every word and vote as he says and do as he says forevermore.

He will be a small footnote on the 2016 election and he will command as much cloud as other Presidential losers like Dodd, Edwards, Kucinich or Richardson... you know... those towers of adoration within the party that wield enormous clout due to their Presidential runs..... not.

[cali]

24. Sigh. Educate yourself. Here I'll help.

Bernie has successfully passed a lot of legislation through the amendment process. His list of accomplishments is long and reflects his progressive beliefs. He has plenty more accomplishments:


http://addictinginfo.org/2016/02/19/heres-a-long-list-of-bernie-sanders-accomplishments-with-citations/


Here's why he'll return to the Senate as one of its most powerful members, dear:

<snip>

By virtue of seniority, and his willingness to belong to the Democratic Caucus, Sanders has the party’s top seat on the Budget Committee. Now he’s the ranking minority member, a job of minimal import in a year when the GOP majority isn’t even trying to move a budget blueprint through the Senate. But he’d be chairman in 2017 if Democrats win back control, which now looks probable.
.

With or without the gavel, though, he’d be pressed into service early on as one of the White House’s most essential helpmates if Clinton becomes president. Whatever changes in spending priorities, entitlement programs or the tax system she proposes would get their first tests of support at the Budget panel -- right about one year from now, probably.

Sanders would have more automatic influence than he’s ever had as he tried to shift a new administration’s fiscal policies to the left, and then it would fall to him to take the lead in finding the votes to move Clinton’s fiscal policies advanced through the starting gate.

- See more at: http://www.rollcall.com/news/hawkings/prominent-life-sanders-looms-back-hill#sthash.bAZkoZgD.dpuf

Even without this technical stuff- seniority, etc., he has a big megaphone. Those young multitudes who support him, have no intention of abandoning him. And they are organised. One tweet on any issue and he has an army of activists taking notice. Last Friday he sent an email asking his supporters to donate to Tim Canova. Today, Canova stated that he'd raised $250,000 over the weekend.

Bernie's email list and over a million donors give him a lot of power.

I could go on, but why bother. You aren't well informed enough to have this discussion.

[JoePhilly]

41. He'll be a Senator with the same "clout" as the other 100 Senators.

[liberal_at_heart]

9. "Democracy is not always nice and quiet and gentle." Damn right.

Hillary supporters and the media are trying to portray Bernie supporters as trouble makers and dangerous people. Well if that puts us in company with the people that made trouble during the Civil Rights Movement, the Women's Rights Movement, and the Labor Movement then I count myself in good company.

[Yurovsky]

53. They would rather you just get in line & STFU...

they want our votes. They want our money. They just don't want our input.

We are detrimental to their corporate bottom line.

[tex-wyo-dem]

57. +1!

They are worried that us ruffians will sully Hill's beautiful coronation party which she has dreamed about for decades.

Screw that...the boat needs to be rocked!

[gordyfl]

12. If the Media and Politicians Called the Nevada Convention "Violent"

what would they call this?

[BootinUp]

13. A disaster? for all of us?

[mmonk]

14. Democracy can be messy, especially to those that do not believe in it.

[liberal_at_heart]

15. control and obedience is much more orderly and neat.

[msongs]

18. not a nice thing to say about bernie sanders but sadly true just the same nt

[Demsrule86]

22. Bernie does not believe in Democracy messy or otherwise

or he would not attempt to overturn the primary.

[lagomorph777]

50. He's trying to WIN the primary. Stop pretending it's over.

Unless you want a President Trump, you should hope it's not over.

[asuhornets]

16. Hillary Clinton is playing it smart she knows all Sanders want is some attention

and she is giving it to him behind the scenes.

[JaneyVee]

17. The working class are voting for Hillary in droves.

[Uponthegears]

19. Where did I hear this before?

Oh, yeah. . . that other guy Hillary disrespects every chance she herself

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/07/26/remarks-president-obama-kenyan-people

[Demsrule86]

20. Why Berie we always had great conventions

until you showed up...I hear Vermont is lovely this time of year.

[QC]

25. Messy is good.

[R B Garr]

29. I bet he starts fading away. Only the upcoming primaries are keeping him in the news.

And he never bothered with the national stage before.

edit: he'll milk the attention for the Convention, but after the primaries, he just naturally won't be part of the news cycle.

[ronnykmarshall]

31. He is such an asshole.

[NWCorona]

36. Tell us how you really feel

[dubyadiprecession]

34. One peep, and security will have any protestors taken away from the convention...

You can count on that.

[restorefreedom]

35. good. debbie better bring the big bucket

and the extra absorbent mop.

this ones gonna leave some residue

go bernie!!

[Algernon Moncrieff]

37. It could be messy. You'll have to tune in and watch.

On the other hand, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and Taylor Swift may sing patriotic songs in three-part harmony. Anything could happen.

[EndElectoral]

40. It was real messy in 64 and in 68. Doubt this will match those.

[Skwmom]

43. Not if they can pack it with Bernie on the outside.Clinton on the inside national delegates.

I think that was part of the reasons for the staged NV event - to encourage her supporters to engage in skulduggery.

[Orsino]

45. Status quo is neat. We want messy. n/t

[Retrograde]

46. Was Sanders at the '68 or '72 conventions?

His wikipedia page talks about his early activism in Chicago, but doesn't say much about the late sixties.

[NWCorona]

48. That's an interesting question.

[Betty Karlson]

47. Sanders thinks of the future of the Democratic Party. I wish the DNC would do likewise. eom

[oasis]

51. "Nevada Tantrumgate II" will only help Hillary in the GE.

The American public will heave a sigh of relief that a heroic HRC put down the "revolution".

[NWCorona]

52. Think again.

[oasis]

54. Okay. Done. On further review, I'm standing by my assertion.

[dana_b]

55. Good- messy means that more points of views

Will be expressed and hopefully heard. And he made a positive statement on any acts of violence so others SHOULD understand that he and his camp are not behind any violent events. Let's hope that everyone attending will keep it together.

[MineralMan]

56. Really. All that spittle from angry, frustrated shouting by

Sanders supporters is going to need a cleaning crew at the ready at all times. Is that what he meant?